Most addictive substance? (your opinion)

[Alfajagdflieger]

yOU SOUND REAL IGNORANT RIGHT NOW BUDDY.

^ Quoted for truth... addiction is not the same for everybody. Jesus Christ its not physically addicting... so what? Cocaine is kicking my ass much more than any opiate or cigarette ever has. And wait theres no real link between smoke and cancer? Hm... I can't say anything to this. That has got to be a joke...

 

[prurigro]

^^ hes not totally off the wall with the tar not causing cancer deal- check this out

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_health2.shtml

however, that doesn't change the fact that cigarettes are causing cancer... and hes totally wrong about them not being addictive- I've never been addicted myself, but I've tried to help friends quit and it almost seems like a lost cause

anyway, I'm prescribed dexadrine and feel absolutely no addiction or pull (been on it for 3 months doing it at least 3 times a week)- I've been prescribed codeine once and didn't like it enough to get hooked, kratom is more enjoyable but I cant get past what opiates do to my stomach-- caffeine on the other hand started out absolutely amazing, but in the end I was drinking it only to fight off the WDs, it actually made me feel like crap when I did drink it, and of course I felt MUCH worse when I didn't (I've since quit a few times and finally put it in its place)... so for me personally, caffeine, but yea, those other posters were right in saying this is a pretty subjective thread- depending on individual brain chemistry, what you've been exposed to and how well your control your use (If I took giant doses of dex rather than therapeutic levels my story might be different)

 

[Silent Solution]

Hands down Benzos, specifically Xanax. Opiates are hell to kick too but Im on 8mg a day of Xanax and I would probably do crazy without. Went to the hospital one time and had to go without for 36 hours. Stupid doctors and Nurses. Lol I was going nuts till I got a shot of Ativan.

I would have to say IV crack or good coke would be next. Hate geeking in the bad way and you will do almost anything (emphasis on almost to get some more if you dont have any.

Then Opiates would be my third choice, hate them damn chills!

-SS~

 

[sonic]

I'm really surprised more people aren't saying fentanyl. Maybe a lot of people just don't have access to it, which is probably for the better.

 

[LaughinFit]

Personally, I have an addiction to cannabinoids, benzodiazepines, and alcohol moderately. I have a small addiction to opiates when I have my hands on them, caffeine daily (STRONG black tea many times a day), and lexapro (if I stopped suddenly.)

 

[FractalStructure]

I'm really surprised more people aren't saying fentanyl. Maybe a lot of people just don't have access to it, which is probably for the better.

you're right sonic, i bet if everyone whose ever done an OC and liked it in this forum, had a constant supply of fentanyl, they'd prolly change their minds. but for example, ive never properly done heroin, and im sure its more addictive than oxy. but i cant say HEROIN becuz i don't have the experience with it to say that. i hope you get what im saying. i guess when i made this thread, my main question was this:

what HAS been the most addictive substance YOU HAVE TAKEN.

if it was "what do you think is the most addictive substance?" im sure everyone would say "heroin and crack". i hope you get what im saying, sonic.

Also, as the creator of this thread (not that this gives me any special powers lol, but that would be awesome), i would change my answer and say BENZODIAZEPINES. because when you take oxy it straight up tells you "hey, im a really addictive substance, and i feel good. eat me. snort me. shove me up your ass and in your veins".

Now, when you start taking, lets say, xanax.. its like "i make you calm. im completely harmless. take me when you need something to calm you down" and before you know it.... 10mg alprazolam daily (just read the last thread i made..."a benzo problem".. its my personal experience with this). And i'd say benzos are more addictive than alcohol because theres no hangover, but alcohol is close.

So: in terms of most addictive IME

1) BENZODIAZEPINES
2) opioids
3) amphetamine/cocaine/meth

^ #3 is not really from my own experience, since im mainly attracted to downers, but i had my stimulant phase, which consisted of large amounts of daily amphetamine and sometimes coke. i was able to stop easily, but many people arent. i believe that everyone has an "addictive personality" they just have to try the right (or wrong) drug in order to trigger it. For example, some people cant stand the hardships of life, and will use opiates/benzos to numb themselves... and some people love being stimulated and the rushes they get from coke/speed so they cant get off amphetamines. Still others become addicted to dissociatives, you'd be surprised how many people i know that cant stop doing ketamine, dxm, or pcp.

 

[prhighmalrage]

Opiates... maybe benzos but I think opiates probably win the addiction battle.

 

[christianh]

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[rhythmdaddy]

Nicotine and heroin.

 

[FractalStructure]

on the other hand, i think the most pleasant substance i know of is mdma.. and ive done pretty much everything except for crack and heroin (however lots of pharm opioids and benzos). The amazing thing is that mdma is not at all addictive, but i know of people that take it too often

 

[amar_g]

^^^ wtf? mdma is only not addictive because after it COMPLETELY DEPLETES YOUR BRAIN of all its fuel, it stops having any real effect for a while...

 

[adder]

First of all, in what respect are we considering the most addictives substances? How can be meth the most addictive if I wouldn't even touch it with my dislike for all stimulants? By the speed of addiction nothing beats opioids. Most of them have short time of action and their action beats all amphs in respect of euphoria. I'm laughing my ass off, when I'm reading alcohol is addictive. It probably is, for people who never tasted any other drug. Benzodiazepines are addictive but they can't compare to opioids.

In respect of withdrawal symptoms amphs may be the most addictive (or rather the most mind fucking...) but nothing made me crave for like opioids. And I couldn't even get physically addicted to benzodiazepines when I stayed on opiates for weeks. That says it all. They're only good at doses reducing anxiety and relaxing muscles but they don't bring any sort of real euphoria. Only some of them bright my mood a bit (lorazepam, estazolam, bromazepam), preferably combined. But they do almost nothing for opiate withdrawal I'm getting through. And it's only the first day.

Interestingly, I quit nicotine from smoking ~10 cigarettes a day. When I smoked half a cig a few weeks later, I only got sweaty like a horse. And it was a pack of Lights.

 

[AuraithX]

Well the only addicting substances I've taken are

Cocaine
GBL
Amphetamine
Nicotine.

I didn't really find any of them addicting.

 

[dexis]

My vote is for Opiates

Opiates.. no doubt. Whether you get hooked on vike 5's or are shooting H, its really the same drug. Benzos are about as bad, but don't fuck you up as bad as opiates. You get addicted to the eupohric high of Opiates FUCK, theyre all very very bad things. If youv'e never used/abused do yourself a favor and don't start!

 

[branflakes]

^^^ wtf? mdma is only not addictive because after it COMPLETELY DEPLETES YOUR BRAIN of all its fuel, it stops having any real effect for a while...

yeah. i think it could be considered addictive but never as heavily abused as heroin or cocaine.

 

[LostandFound]

hey adder dont say alcohals not addictive, ive known any alcoholics and there usually the ones who are the most fucked up. so dont be stubborn and say its not addictive

 

[delta_9]

without a doubt, nicotine

 

[klowns]

yOU SOUND REAL IGNORANT RIGHT NOW BUDDY.

actualy, to the contrare, i sound rather intelligent, because i bother to really research things like this, rather than just spout out what i think is true. you obviously dont know shit, and you are ignorant. no, there IS NO LINK between smoking and cancer. find one for me, and then ill believe you. find one for me that doesnt come from the anti-smoking nazis, some real scientific info, and then ill believe you. because what has been found is that smoking and lung cancer have no correlation. they even did this study wtih rats and even after exposing them to mass amounts of tobacco smoke for a LONG period of time, not one of them developed a lung tumor. ever heard of anyon dying from smoking cannabis??? NO. thats because its never happened. im not saying modern day comercail cigs are good for you becasue like i said they are TERRIBLE, intentionaly poisoned with over 600 chemical additives, and grown with radioactive fertalizers. Radiation, is the leading cause of lung cancer. radiation from x rays worse for you than smoking a camel. but yes, if your smoking somethign thats all radiated, then coverered in toxins, of course its not going to be good for you. i was discussing tobacco, which is a completely different thing. its a plant, with alkaloids in it. its rather like cannabis. nicotine, is rather as safe as caffeine, and is showing HIGH therapeautic potential.
everytime someone gets lung cancer, and they are a smoker, they automaticaly attribute it to the smoking, even if they have NO proof that smoking had anythign to do with it. theres a whole list i could post for you of the worlds oldest people (some of them anyways lol) who live3d ato be 90-140. all were/are daily smokers, and all that passed away, there deaths were attributed to tobaco. hum, thats funny how they outlived the life expactency by up to 64 years.......................humm.................
believe what you will, i know everything i say sounds like blasphemy becasue youve been programed to equate tobaco in your mind with bad health and death. but, i can, and will if you wish, post sources for all of my claims. like i said, i dont just talk shit like you do. this is no joke. you ar teh joke. you dont believe the government about cannabis or lsd, so why do you choose to believe them about tobacco? they lie about somethings, they are going to lie about everything. there is a reason tobacco is the natives MOST sacred herb. and it never gave anyone lung cancer......lung cancer and deaths and cigs just started getting tied together around 1920 with the advent of the modern day radioactive chemical stick, also known as a "smoke".

 

[klowns]

also note that oriental people have teh highest % of smokers. they also have the lowest percentage of lung cancer and are VERY healthy people in general. they also consume the largest percentage of raw garlic out of anyone else in the world, and garlic would counteract the effects of the carbon monoxide from smoke, although carbon monoxide may be what helps protect the heart after a heart attack, i dont know.............nicotine is not addictive except for mentaly like anything else can be. i can stop at any time for months, even a year once, and i was just fine every time. i can chain smoke for a few weeks, then stop smoking for a week or 2. i never have any wds, just right at first you think about it a little and get a little cranky. with methadone and kpin wds, full grown built stable men, will be on the floor screaming and bawling like a baby because they are fucked up so bad from wds, it physicaly hurts so bad youd rather die. smoking aint shit, the problem is most people TRYING so hard to quit dont *ACTUALLY* want to. if you want something bad enough in life, you CAN DO IT. you can cold turkey benzos and opies at the same time and live through it. i guarentee you could quit smoking. the thing is, why would you want to? tobaco makes everyone feel great
peace

 

[MrCream]

Do you smoke lots of meth? ^^