Opioids Morphine.. ?

[sixburgh]

The first time I was introduced to morphine, I snorted a 60mg. I have a very high tolerance of opiates due to frequent use for years and years, though I've never actually done H. I prefer the pills, because I know if I ever took the next step, I'd be dead within months due to my addictive personality and insanely high tolerance to anything I do (whether it be for the first time or not).

My question is, I have a bunch of 30mg Morphine that are 12 hour release.. when I take them, I wipe off the time release coating and just bite them in half and swallow. Does snorting them give more BA? What is the best way for me to do these?

I only do them when I have nothing else (like no oxy/roxy) and if it helps at all, I'm used to doing 800+mg of oxy a day.

 

[TheLostBoys]

Wowzers...............800mg a day habit of oxy is a huge one. How many Morphine tabs do you have because you will need a lot for one day. Orally chewed, I can take 25mgs of Morphine SR & be good & I can take 15mgs of Oxycodone IR & be good, just showing you the difference for me.......

If I had your habit, it would seem that 900mg of oxycodone IR would be equal to 1500mgs of morphine SR from my above numbers....um....thats nuts but you do say you have a natural high tolerance...........

 

[lptrax]

If you don't want to boot them this is what i would do. Put a ton of them (crushed) into a bottle of white grapefruit juice. Shake it for a long time and let it sit in the fridge for a day or so. This will break the time release and leave you with a morphine IR potion (like oxyfast but with morphine instead of OC)

 

[Cane2theLeft]

The intranasal BA is LOWER than the oral. Plugging (rectal administration) is your best bet considering both safety and efficiency.

 

[sixburgh]

Plugging is out of the question. If I have to resort to morphine (30mg pills) I just wipe away the time release coating, snort about 60mg, swallow another 60mg, and continue this throughout the day/night. Is the BA more through snorting or taking orally?

I only do them if I can't get my preferred pills, so it's almost like it's WD control first, then high second. It takes me almost 100mg just to calm the WD effects alone and considerably more to achieve an high. IV and plugging aren't option for me so it basically comes down to this.. Am I better of taking them orally, letting them dissolve under my tongue, or smoking them? Just looking for the best BA so I can make the most out of them during the 'rough times'.

Edit: I also usually mix in a 5th of a liquor with them (and whatever else I'm on), I like to mix benzos with them as well, but it just takes so much for me to 'get off' on oxy or morphine. Switching to H isn't an option for me, as I'd be dead within 3 months max.

 

[Tommyboy]

Plugging is out of the question. If I have to resort to morphine (30mg pills) I just wipe away the time release coating, snort about 60mg, swallow another 60mg, and continue this throughout the day/night. Is the BA more through snorting or taking orally?

Like Cane2theLeft just said, the oral BA is higher than nasal.

I only do them if I can't get my preferred pills, so it's almost like it's WD control first, then high second. It takes me almost 100mg just to calm the WD effects alone and considerably more to achieve an high. IV and plugging aren't option for me so it basically comes down to this.. Am I better of taking them orally, letting them dissolve under my tongue, or smoking them? Just looking for the best BA so I can make the most out of them during the 'rough times'.

Take them orally since plugging and IV are not options. I wouln't even bother trying to get high off of the morphine, so just stick to using it for withdrawal control. This way it will help lower your tolerance a little more, and you can save your money.

Edit: I also usually mix in a 5th of a liquor with them (and whatever else I'm on), I like to mix benzos with them as well, but it just takes so much for me to 'get off' on oxy or morphine. Switching to H isn't an option for me, as I'd be dead within 3 months max.

That's quite the dangerous combo. You really need to work of getting off this stuff. Have you looked into suboxone treatment? You are on quite the high dose of oxycodone, and I'm sure that you only really get high a handful of times a month, while you just get a buzz or maintain the rest of the time. Nothing good is going to come out of taking all these drugs, so you really need to consider slowing down at least, but I really recommend trying suboxone.

 

[phatass]

I believe the approximative BA's are
20% intranaal
30-40% oral
60% plugged
90% IM (only IM if you have bials preed for I use)
100% IV

and i think oxy is 50% stronger than morphine....

 

[tricomb]

but that's only orally right? Because morphine is more potent through parenteral routes IIRC. I'm very out of it right now and 60% rectal BA seems generous, but it's certainly the best option IME.

 

[phatass]

^ well wikipedia states "Bioavailability, 20-40% (oral), 36-71% (rectally), 100% (IV/IM)" and i would agree with those stats from prsonnal experience... but as you can see there is a very wide range of rectal BA's, so if yours is closer to 35-40 i can understand why you might be sceptical of my intial estiates...

allthough the numbers are not all the same on the internet, they all agree intranasal < Oral < Plugged < IM < IV

 

[Tommyboy]

but that's only orally right? Because morphine is more potent through parenteral routes IIRC. I'm very out of it right now and 60% rectal BA seems generous, but it's certainly the best option IME.

Yup, IV morphine is roughly twice as strong as oral oxy, and oral oxy is roughly twice as strong as oral morphine. IV morphine is 4x the strength of oral morphine.

 

[DooMMooD]

Plugged morphine is INCREDIBLE. My body particularly likes morphine, whereas most other peoples bodies dont.

I used to do several hundred mgs of morphine/day and i got VERY HIGH and it was VERY ENJOYABLE (much moreso than other people felt doing similar amounts). The BEST WAY to take morphine is via ALL ROAS: nasally, orally, rectally, the works! IME, morphine works best when you take it by mixing up ROAs. I used to plug and eat some morphine, then while I was waiting for it to kick in i'd sniff a nice 60-120mg line, be good to go for awhile. Felt like i was a floating god for a few days/weeks, not sure how long, but then I ran out.

As everyone has shown: the boa for morphine varies WILDLY (as I have said for years). Anywhere from as low as like 15% all the way to 71% BOA!!! If you are like me you are lucky and are closer to that 71% end of the spectrum. I believe the average BOA is ~30%s, but hopefully you luck out and get to come chill with me at the 70% end of the spectrum!

 

[80mg]

800mg??

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800mg = new name

 

[tricomb]

Plugged morphine is INCREDIBLE. My body particularly likes morphine, whereas most other peoples bodies dont.

I used to do several hundred mgs of morphine/day and i got VERY HIGH and it was VERY ENJOYABLE (much moreso than other people felt doing similar amounts). The BEST WAY to take morphine is via ALL ROAS: nasally, orally, rectally, the works! IME, morphine works best when you take it by mixing up ROAs. I used to plug and eat some morphine, then while I was waiting for it to kick in i'd sniff a nice 60-120mg line, be good to go for awhile. Felt like i was a floating god for a few days/weeks, not sure how long, but then I ran out.

As everyone has shown: the boa for morphine varies WILDLY (as I have said for years). Anywhere from as low as like 15% all the way to 71% BOA!!! If you are like me you are lucky and are closer to that 71% end of the spectrum. I believe the average BOA is ~30%s, but hopefully you luck out and get to come chill with me at the 70% end of the spectrum!

^ THIS!!!!!!
I swear morphine is the best pain killer out there, for those who can tolerate it. I understand that some people can't and that they're better off on Oxycodone or Oxymorphone or Hydromorphone, etc. But IMO/IME the best pain killer hands down always has been and always will be morphine. It ain't going nowhere, it's been around for thousands of years in it's crude form, and will be around as long as humans walk this earth in it's pure pharmaceutical form.

For best analgesia, I usually start with plugging 60mg (I have the 1mL Terumo syringes but there is room for more than 1mL if I pull back the plunger and I have enough water for morphine's solubility just in case) and take another MS 60mg ER orally.