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Opioids Morphine VS Dilaudid VS Heroin

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Purple Fishy

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Swim has access to 20 mg Morphine pills, 4mg Dilaudid pills, or 2/10 of a g of heroin (not sure what kind, in Toronto).

What would be the best high for an opiate-naive user? Obviously swim would start off small and work his way up.

Swim is about 6 feet 220 pounds wants to snort. Considering all the factors (including not knowing the purity of the heroin) what are your opinions?

This isn't a "What drug should I do?" post. Swim has done extensive research (obviously not first hand) on all three and he's on the fence. He hears Morphine is the weakest and the worst when insufflated, so that is probably a no.

It's more between Dilaudid and Heroin. Obviously heroin is the scary "Don't fuck with this" drug, and dilaudid is a bit more reliable because it's made in a lab, but when insufflated, which one typically has a better high?

Thanks for any help
 
If you're opioid naive, eat the morphine. It's the safest choice, and well, it should do the trick...
 
I assumed that Morphine would be the recommended drug, but SWIM loves to snort, especially coke. Pouring the bag out, preparing the lines on the bathroom counter, rolling the bill. It's as good as the high. Isn't morphine really bad intranasally?

Which, out of the 3, is gonna give SWIM the best insufflated high?
 
for snorting, the only good one would be the H. Hydromorphone is really only good when injected, and morphine has a low bioavailibility insufflated. But for an opiate naive person, the heroin is the most dangerous with the least room for error. And 2 tenths would def be way too much. If you do the h, start out with a quarter of a tenth, or 25mgs and work your way up from there SLOWLY. But really the safest thing to do would be to go with the morphine and just eat them, its has a good oral BA anyway and you should get a good nod, start with 20-30mgs and work your way up.
 
SWIM knows that heroin is the most dangerous, but as long It's taken at low doses in intervals of every 25-30 minutes until an adequate high has been reached, would that be relatively safe (obviously not safe, but safe relative to what is being done)? I'm talking about match head sized chunks until SWIM is in a good place, then smoking some bud (from what i've heard, it makes the body buzz even better).

I know it sounds stupid, especially because no one starts off using heroin thinking they'll wind up a junkie, but SWIM has been interested in heroin for a very long time, as far as learning about it is concerned. It's getting harder for SWIM to rationalize NOT doing it, again, as stupid as it sounds. SWIM has no access to it with the exception of this one time coming up, but has anytime access to morphine and hydromorphone.
 
Stop swimming. we don't do that herr. i think Dilaudid is your best bet. you know the exact dosage and that its not cut with anything dangerous like heroin could be. snort 1-2 mgs
 
When I do use swim, I piss people off. When I don't use swim, I seem to still piss people off. Does it really matter?

Does dilaudid give a really good, long high, or would it be medium strength like morphine?
 
Dilaudid has a great high but morphine lasts longer.Dilaudid is much more pleasent to sniff then morphine sulfate.also nasal Dilaudid has a nasal b/a in the mid 50s percentile. whil.e morphies nasal b/a is like 15%. I would go with the Dilaudid it
 
And on this site we don't use swim like they do on other drug forums.it offers u no protection from law enforcement at all
 
Ok, I understand the SWIM thing now. After reading my posts, it sounds like I'm dead straight on trying heroin. It's not that, It's just that I want my first time using powerful opiates, with the exception of codeine which bored me every time, to be intense, long, and fun. From what I've read, morphine simply doesn't compare if you aren't IVing.

I'm sorry about all the questions, but I want to make sure I can get the best high in the safest way. Does heroin have a more seductive/addictive allure than Dilaudid? I hear dilaudid is more potent, is it only "safer" than heroin because it is made in a lab and you know exactly what's in it?

Out of the two, which would you say would have a better high snorted in general? I've already made the decision, a very stupid one at that, that I want to try one of the two, but in spite of the risks, I want the best high I can get (without needles or plugging). Hedonism at its finest
 
I still think Dilaudid is your best bet.in my e experience it feels quite similar to smack anyways (when ivd anyways...go with the Dilaudid u won't be dissatisfied like u might be scoring street smack of unknown and likely poor quality
 
If morphines out of the question I would def pick the heroin if your dead set on snorting. Yes, the dilaudid would be safer but really the only worthwhile way of doing dilaudid is IV. Heroin will give you a much better high snorted, but be very careful with your dosing if you don't have an opiate tolerance, teeny tiny bumps with waiting 15 min in between until you are in a good place.
 
I can already tell that your not an iv user so fuck the morphine..fuck the delaudid...both those suck unless u bang.....lay out the h in lil lines and do 1 more every 30mins till ur good..don't kill urself tryen to do it all..cuz u will if its half decent and u got no tolerance
 
Lets bear in mind that the OP has stated hes opiate naive.
With this in mind id go with hydromorphone, its in a safer form then heroin amd has a slightly bigger margin of error dose-wise.
Morphine isnt always that enjoyable if you have no tolerance, just a shit-load of side effects like nausea and vomiting.
 
i have snorted all 3 before and if i had the choice i would cut my tar with dilaudid and rail the fuck out of that. but since you have no tolerance i do not recommend this. snort the heroin and work your way up slowly until you hit your sweet spot. each bump/line should get you noticeably higher so it shouldn't be too hard to tell when you've had enough.

when i first started .2g would last me a good 2-3 days. i would do a good line and i'd be set for a few hours honestly. grab a plate and chop up 10 lines and do one every time you feel that you need more. be safe.
 
Snorting morphine and heroin has NEVER gotten me even a slight buzz. Dilaudid, however, gives a great buzz. I later tried IV'ing morphine. I do not suggest you try it, but I found shooting even a small amount of morphine gives me a massive rush, but I have to do a fuck of a lot, like 200mg to actually get "buzz."
 
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