morphine to heroin

[pokin' canadian]

fuck h makes me mad, fucking hell

so much money, just rediculous, and hardly anything.

from what i got, i felt good, still do, but not all that fucked up. i felt intoxicated for the first little while, now i just feel *barely* a little doped up, but i also smoked some pot (i'm a chronic, but i still feel it some haha) but i dunno, i can tell the difference, and i know i'm high on an opiate, but its just not that much, and definetly wasn't an intense rush. i guess i didn't do enough, but honestly, it really didn't feel all that much different that morphine, BARELY a little smoother, but i think thats more because of the fact that it wasn't enough than the different drug......also, it did give my arm some pins and needles but not as bad as nromal with m.....

overall, i think its a worthless expenditure, especially considering i get over 300mg of M for free every day......

can i convert this M to anything better? to me that might make it worthwhile, and if i could increase the potency enough without losing much, i would gain a fair bit of drug meaning i could maybe even stockpile some in case i lose my Rx

anwyays im out

 

[xxanxx]

can i convert this M to anything better? to me that might make it worthwhile, and if i could increase the potency enough without losing much, i would gain a fair bit of drug meaning i could maybe even stockpile some in case i lose my Rx

anwyays im out

Yes, morphine can be converted into heroin, but this isn't the place to ask.
Also, I don't think you are going to get anything out of heroin until you quit morphine. Even a day or two WILL make a difference. Cheers

 

[pokin' canadian]

well, first off i take the morphine for pain as well as rec. so quitting is pretty lame

also i dont much care about doin H that much, i wanted to try it to see what it was like, but im more than content with M

also, i know very much that m can convert (well, its the only way to make h in fact afaik other than like super crazy weird ass chemistry) but basiclaly well, how do you get AA?

i know that its illegal to have in the states, or i think so, but im pretty sure up here it isn't. i know its got *some* use in photography, but i dunno

anyways, is there anything under anohter brand name that works? i've heard glacial acetic acid, although its definetly not acetic anhydride, unless thast anohter name, but i've heard some ppl use it with success...or is that just a load of shit?

where would i go about lokoing for AA? no chemistry stores here really, but would a photo shop carry it? anywhere else carry it?
thanks

 

[pokin' canadian]

i wanna BUMP, BUMP BUMP BUMP BA BUMP!!!!

put me to thaaa topppp!!! BUMP!!!!

thanks bump, i owe ya one

anyways, lookin for an answer to that question...how controlled is AA in canada does anyone know?

is it really a supply used in photography (back in the day...)?

i doubt i am even going to bother as i tried H decently and am not impressed enough to go to all the effort of converting pills when i can just have them as they are which is good enough...

i just am curious in the theory behind it

if this isn't proper for this forum, can i please at least leave this post up and someone can PM me if they ahve any info or anything for me?

thanks all!

 

[speedball_racer]

Uh, this is a tough one....

Why don't you use Google to try to figure it out, find a supplier in Canada and see what they require for shipping it to you? You can try to order like a 4 Litre bottle - that would be a reasonable quantity for even a medium or large industrial testing lab to order. However, you may be asked to show that you have a legitimate use for it and they may require that you have an account with them, which would be difficult to open as an individual. A good Google search may turn up other avenues for obtaining it that we cannot fathom without searching for some info....

Also, you're likely to get bitch slapped for bumping your own post so aggressively. Take it easy, you are asking some pretty slippery questions anyway.

And if you do manage to get a hold of some 99+% AA, be careful. The stuff is super corrosive and you must work under a fume hood or in the middle of an open field with that stuff. Gloves, goggles, rubber suit, that kind of shit. 'K?

Be safe.

 

[diacetyldeath]

i doubt i am even going to bother as i tried H decently and am not impressed enough to go to all the effort of converting pills when i can just have them as they are which is good enough...

At your dosages of IV morphine per day, you will not feel entry-level doses of IV heroin. Your tolerance is far too high.

Heroin is often quoted to be 1.3 - 3 times as effective as morphine. The only reason it is described as such is because heroin (diacetylmorphine) crosses the blood-brain barrier much more readily than morphine.

So when heroin is used intravenously, it crosses the blood-brain barrier and within several minutes is metabolized into morphine on the other side. So all of a sudden there's a great deal of morphine ready to agonize opiate receptors in the brain -- 1.3 to 3 times as much morphine as there would be if someone had injected the same dose of morphine instead of heroin.

So your tolerance to morphine is going to have an incredibly adverse effect on your tolerance to heroin. Not only do different opiates form cross-tolerance (so if you've built up a tolerance taking oxycontin, you will also have a tolerance to every other opioid; morphine, hydrocodone, hydromorphine, oxymorphone, etc.), but in your case, we are talking about the same opioid.

I think you might also be making the terrible mistake of assuming your dope is pure. You are used to pharma-grade IV morphine, which is of course 100% pure. 100-130mg/day (I think that's what you said) of IV morphine is a lot, and the fact that you want to try heroin indicates that you probably don't feel much from that dose.

Doing the math, you'd probably require anywhere from 75 - 125mg of diacetylmorphine to do the trick. That's 1/8 of a gram of 100% pure heroin.

But for your first try, you attempted 1/16 of a gram of street heroin, which is 80% pure if you're lucky -- more likely 50% or even less.

You obviously want to be safe, and take it slow to avoid ODing -- which is a good idea. So I would suggest assuming 80% purity -- you'd need 156.25mg of 80% purity shit to be equivalent to 125mg pure. That's around 1/6 gram.

If you do that, and you don't enjoy it, it probably means it's less pure. 50% purity would require 250mg, or 1/4g street. I'm sure you can do the rest of the math.

H is going to seem very expensive to you because you're starting out with the equivalent of the habit that persuaded me to start buprenorphine maintenance for the simple reason that it was destroying my finances.

As for the availability/legality of acetic anhydride in Canada, I am unfortunately ignorant. Good luck with that, but as others mentioned, there are chemicals besides acetic anhydride that will do the trick, and they're all pretty dangerous/volatile, so why not consider them?

You're playing with fire discussing such things here, though. There are a number of sources on the internet that will discuss this subject in great depth that you might want to check out. They are readily available to any reasonably resourceful person willing to dig.

Good luck, and be safe. Very safe.