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morphine sulfate

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Spook

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hi all
i have a question. i have some ms contin which is morphine sulfate. if i crush the tablets and put them on some silver foil and heat it, can i inhale the smoke and feel the effects like with heroin or is that only possible with hcl?
thanks!
 
No,u can't,u may get a little but you'll mainly end up with a v.bad chest!!
First,if there MST's they have a coating you can peel/scrape off,
Most people mix with water +hit them up.I don't advise this,+morphine hasn't got a very pleasant hit IV,believe me.
The reason you can't smoke them is because they are bound with parafin wax!bastard hey! if u can get rid of this,you'll be in a better position,but then u need to turn into morphine hydrochloride with some hydrochloric acid.
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thanks italyouth!
got another question: i read somewhere that 100mg codeine equals 10mg of morphine
whenever i take 100 mg codeine i catch a nice buzz but nothing with 10 mg insufflated morphine
can someone please shed a light on this
thanks!
 
That is probably because of the inactivity of morphine orally.10mg of oral morphine is nothing compared to 100mg of oral codeine.
 
You can actually smoke it, but the taste is HORRIBLE due to the binder burning... italyouth is refering to the process of hacking out MST's .. for instance, in New Zeland heroin is non-existant so they sell MST's at outrageous prices AND little bottles of Acidic Anhydride (aka "double") .. you then convert the morphine to heroin .. the process of adding HCl to convert MS to MHCl is slightly more involved then simply "adding hydrochloric acid" ..
My advice - treat it like OxyContin ... don't prep it for IV use by heating it, and for best effects crush it before taking it orally... I find that you get mixed reasults when snorting, for some reason the time-release mechanisim isn't totally destroyed (at least not to the extent OxyContin is) ..
 
but if the time release mechanism isnt fully broken down then whats the difference between eating and snorting?
i mean: if it isnt broken down for snorting then it also isnt for eating? or am i wrong
and now that were at it: i read that a good starting dose for a person with no tolerance (well, did a lot of codeine in the past...already couple of months ago) is 30mg when snorted and 60 when eaten...true?
thanks!
 
I don't know if it is the time release or not, all I know is that morphine is considered to be signifigantly stronger then Oxycodone, and orally I'd say it's close to about .5x stronger ... but when snorted OxyContin is far better then MS Contin ...
 
and oh yeah, i almost forgot...what if i just took some ms contins without crushing them...say 60mg...would i notice any effects at all?
thanks!
 
well i crushed about 50 mg of ms contin and swallowed it...i think i took a bit too much cause i was feeling dizzy, couldnt keepmy eyes open, nauseous but no euphoria?
now, phreex told me that orally morphine is more potent than oxycodone
people are very enthusiastic about oxy but ive never really felt euphoric of morphine
any thoughts?
 
Hi,
As for the converting morphine to heroin:
It's not acidic acid! it's acetic anhydride u want.
And it's not just as easy as mixing the to,u must get the right temp. then neutralize,then wash etc.
This is the best thing to do with your morph.!!
as this process strenghtens it by 4x,so carefull.
I'm not to sure on the codeine to morphine equivelents of the top of my head,sorry,i could find out
PS
your best bet would be to mix them with vinegar,boil on spoon and drink
[ 09 April 2002: Message edited by: italyouth ]
 
I've converted MSTs to Herion hundreds, probably thousands of times using AA, really its not difficult & it doesnt take long. But you must be taught by a master, not justt play it by ear, AA is some VERY nasty shit.
Hey you ^^^ have you done this? where do you live?
 
i experimented some more and i must tell you: it was quite disappointing
i snorted and ate different amounts of ms and i never really got the euphoria i was looking for
anyone else here with the same experience?
 
just b/c something is stronger, doesn't mean it's as euphoric
sure morphine is stronger, if you are talking about relieving pain
but oxy is much more euphoric
 
and oh yeah, i almost forgot...what if i just took some ms contins without crushing them...say 60mg...would i notice any effects at all?
You will probably notice effects. I was using MS Contin for short while this last summer and had a mild tolerance but a single 60mg MS Contin even uncrushed would definantly get me high. Not a whole lot, but I'd feel pretty spacey. 120mgs would have me rocked.
i experimented some more and i must tell you: it was quite disappointing
i snorted and ate different amounts of ms and i never really got the euphoria i was looking for
anyone else here with the same experience?
I've definantly had the same experience. Morphine sulfate is hardly euphoric at all. Oxycodone produces a lot of euphoria, tends to make you really talkative and is basically a "fun" drug. Morphine sulfate is something I definantly enjoy, but it's the kind of drug I'd rather do alone and just sit around doing nothing feeling "fucked up". I wouldn't consider it to be a "fun" drug. My prefered application of morphine sulfate would be sitting in front of my computer writing music.
Another important thing to remember about MS Contin is that even when you take it orally and it's crushed up, as Phreex said the time-release is not completely defeated. The effects will last a good 8 hours, if not more. I've gone to sleep and woken up hours later and puked in the morning after eating breakfast because it was still effecting me so much.
And if you leave the tablets uncrushed, you can expect to be feeling it for up to 12 hours, possibly more. And again, I've ended up puking after waking up the next morning and eating breakfast this way.
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The bottom line is that morphine sulfate just isn't the euphoric drug people expect .. yeah, it's technically "stronger" and "more potent" but in terms of what makes for a good high - the lesser drugs take the cake .. I have probably taken a couple pounds of oxycodone, and maybe an ounce of morphine in my life - while you ca nget a damn good high from morphine, I just don't find it is as rewarding as oxycodone, heroin, etc..
Kell will be happy to detail the process of how you convert it to heroin, however, remember that AA is NOT sold on the streets in the US (then again, we have no reason to waste time converting as we have heroin) ..
 
thanks for all the replies people
i've eaten it, snorted it...now its time to smoke it...how much would i need?
anyone any experience with it? my guess is that you need less than with snorting and eating and the effects are more pronounced...
thanks!
 
Hi,
As 4 questions about snorting? well the reason that snorting usually gives u a better rush+quicker hit is because the drug is absorbed through the mucous membranes in your nose,which absorbs the drug into the bloodstream pretty quick,
firstly IV is the quickest,then smoking,then snorting,+also rubbing on the gums,then ingesting.
Morphine is a drug which doesn't produce much of a euphoric effect compared to diamorphine(heroin),
FACT:within minutes of taking heroin all of it has changed into morphine!
The only difference with heroin+morphine is that heroin gives u that initial rush.
As 4 working out your conversion rates,if your pretty familiar with methadone linctus(1ml in 10ml linctus),well methadone is 4xstronger than morphine,
so 10ml of methadone would be = to 40mg of morphine sulphate.
And people without a daily habit+tolerance can die from as little as 20ml of methadone,=80mg morphine,so be v.careful.
I'd suggest that first timers should only be taking 5ml methadone or 20ml of morphine to begin.
5-10ml methadone used to knock me out a long time ago!!
(I wish!)
So careful guys,+be careful with opiates,they can easily take over your life without u even knowing.Opiates can control the strongest of men!
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#PS
Knell,just curious to know what u know about sources 4 acetic anhydride in the US? i asume you are in the US?
 
Originally posted by italyouth:
FACT:within minutes of taking heroin all of it has changed into morphine!
The only difference with heroin+morphine is that heroin gives u that initial rush.
The reason you get more of a rush with Heroin- Heroin passes through the blood brain barrier MUCH quicker than morphine- once on the other side- yes, it is converted to morphine and then "absorbed" by all the little happy opiate receptors. The brain is a wonderful organ.
doc
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Yup, as groveller noted, the heroin/morphine difference isn't just the initial rush... heroin is much more lipophilic than morphine, and so far more gets absorbed into the brain (there to be converted to MAM, morphine, M3G, M6G, etc) than with plain morphine. I'd guess there are other effects too (eg different anatomical distribution) contributing to the greater euphoria associated with heroin...
 
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