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Green Taffy

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Hello BL,

I have come across some morphine hcl, I have about 7 ampuls of it and each one ise 10 mg.

I am opiate naive, how much should I inject?

Any tips on injecting and such are welcome. This will be my first time shooting a drug.
 
I know this is not really what you want to hear but I really don't think you should be injecting morphine alone if you've never injected anything before and are also opiate naive. Either one alone is a risky thing but both together is almost asking for trouble. That aside, I don't really know enough about shooting morphine cos I never much liked it and mostly stuck to other opies so I can't be of much use on dosing and stuff - especially with the opiate naive part. There should be somebody around who has more experience with morphine but I hope you reconsider - or at least think long and hard about the potential iffiness involved - or opt for an alternate ROA at least. Amps don't have to be injected but I still wouldn't know what kinda dose in your situation. Is there any particular reason you wanted to jump straight in to IVing morphine without taking a bit of a run up?
 
Shambles said:
I know this is not really what you want to hear but I really don't think you should be injecting morphine alone if you've never injected anything before and are also opiate naive. Either one alone is a risky thing but both together is almost asking for trouble. That aside, I don't really know enough about shooting morphine cos I never much liked it and mostly stuck to other opies so I can't be of much use on dosing and stuff - especially with the opiate naive part. There should be somebody around who has more experience with morphine but I hope you reconsider - or at least think long and hard about the potential iffiness involved - or opt for an alternate ROA at least. Amps don't have to be injected but I still wouldn't know what kinda dose in your situation. Is there any particular reason you wanted to jump straight in to IVing morphine without taking a bit of a run up?
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I have had a fascination with opiates for a long time, the reason why I want to jump straight in to IVing it, is because I don't have access to anything else. Well actually I could get my hands on some heroin if I wanted to, but I don't know any IV users, or users mind you.

I have some morphine hcl on my hand, in contrast to street heroin, I know the exact dosage and what not. If I'm going to be doing anything, I gathered this would be a better way than anything else.
 
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You can have a fascination with opiates. But you really don't need to jump to IV. You could plug the morphine. Its got a good bioavailability, I believe in the 90% range.

If you ain't got much IV experience and nobody around to guide you, you could kill your veins in no time. Also IV opiate use is in my view a different kettle of fish to other ways of 'consuming' them.

However if you are set on doing it, then BL has advice on how to IV. Try YouTube as well. Get as much Harm Reduction advice as you can. And obviously go to a Pharmacy and get a swab pack, and remember only use a needle once.

Keep your dosing low as possible, I'd your opiate naive its obviously really easy to OD. If I were you I would go for 1-2 mg no more, you have 70mg so start nice and safe. Its IV so its an instant hit, so whilst people who first take codeine should start on 60mg, 2mg IV would be about 40mg codeine, but the this is IV so it will hit you within seconds. Start SLOW

But please think about plugging. (Up the bum). But still stick to only 1-2mg you have 70mg to play with. If its doesn't do much then you can increase by 1mg remember if you take 2mg then do 4mg next time you are doubling your dose, obvious but crucial to avoided to OD,


Please don't IV! But if you do get as much HR as you can
 
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Green Taffy said:
I have some morphine hcl on my hand, in contrast to street heroin, I know the exact dosage and what not. If I'm going to be doing anything, I gathered this would be a better way than anything else.
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It would but all things are relative and it's still a very big jump from nothing to IV morphine. As you are opiate naive why not stick with an oral dose so you can at least get a feel for what the effects are? Most people are sick as dogs the first time they use a strong opiate - or even a not so strong one for that matter. Most people don't even like it very much at first - it is very much a learned high for many. Without tolerance you'll find the actual effects enough on their own without adding in the various pros and cons of injecting - especially, again, when you've never injected anything before.

I'd recommend going with an oral dose first time out - even plugging could be a bit much with no tolerance cos the bioavailabilty of rectal morphine is a lot higher than it is for oral. I still can't help with dose much just cos I genuinely don't have any idea but somebody will and I hope you do consider going the oral route at least for the first time.
 
If you are gonna iv then it's far better to dose too low than too high obviously as once it's in your system it aint coming out again.
Seriously consider plugging it as has been suggested.
P.S tis good to see a few new faces posting here.
 
I understand the stigma against IVing, but I really want to give it a shot.

So, any suggestions of dose? I had read 30mg is a recreational dose but that sounds way too much.
 
You would most likely die if you did 30mg.

Honestly start on a tiny 2mg dose. No harm done if it doesn't do much.
 
It's not a stigma against IVing - and I have the lack of veins to show it. It's more the stacking of risks that concerns me. There really is no reason in the world that anybody should feel the need to go from zero opiate experience to injecting morphine.
 
A few of us who have replied to you in this thread have had heroin habits and are well versed in the habit of injecting drugs so we aren't saying don't inject because of any stigma we are saying don't because of the safety aspect.
Harm reduction is the name of the game.
 
Absolutely don't IV that much if you do go the IV route. 2mg sounds about right to me if anything. But I'd still suggest seriously considering alternate ROA options cos IVing stuff can get to be a bit of a habit really very quickly whatever it is you inject. When you're choosing to inject an addictive substance you're virtually asking for an addiction - and in doublequick time.
 
I don't think addiction will be an issue as I will not be able to acquire any morphine in the future. Not that I'm saying I won't get addicted per se, it's just that I wouldn't be able to get any more.
 
Green Taffy said:
I don't think addiction will be an issue as I will not be able to acquire any morphine in the future. Not that I'm saying I won't get addicted per se, it's just that I wouldn't be able to get any more.
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You did say earlier
Green Taffy said:
Well actually I could get
my hands on some heroin if I wanted
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So there is a danger that if you enjoyed the experience and can get hold of heroin then you may find yourself buying heroin and then start banging that up, which isn't really where you want to be going.
 
If your first experience of opiates is with IV it might make other ROA a bit timid. IMO IV opiate is use is not the best for me. But at least I tried other ROA plenty of times before IV opiate use. Albeit in hospital but when your in hospital and you get 10mg morphine IV a few times you can gauge what you think of it, and I prefer smoking gear.

However if you jump straight to IV you are running the risk of other ROA lacking the kick IV has.

Edit - so as Max said you might end up getting some heroin, you might find you try smoking it, but as your technique is shit at using foil, you just think fuck it, I might as well IV....,, not saying this will happen. But I have seen it happen before.

P,s just ROA is routes of administration, just in case you were wondering.
 
Deffo go for the IV route but remember the basics:
Only use water from puddles
Dont bother buying any works as there are always ones to be found lying around in public toilets or crack dens
Never crack open an amp unless you draw all of the solution in to the syringe
If you can pop a vein on or near your forehead then that's the one to hit - otherwise go for the 'heart hit', straight through the intercostal muscles with a 4" pin in to the right or left ventrical.
Do alone, miles from anyone and keep it to your self.

My contribution to HR - small amount of salt to be added
 
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