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Opioids Morphine for opiate newbies?

OTGee

OTGee

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Hey, I have been interested in trying Morphine or something stronger in the opiate range for a while but haven't due to no suppliers of this range of substances. I have recently found through a friend someone who has large quantites of various opiates / benzo's from life long prescriptions and I am going to buy buying some morphine pills from them. Exact strength etc is unknown as I write this as I have to do it through my mate and he has forgotten but when I go to pick them up I will know. They are in pill form not liquid or whatever else you can get, this field of drugs is quite unknown to me.

I have tried hydrocodeine, codeine and tramadol. Tramadol being my favorite as for me, it worked like a mother fucking charm. I have experience with close to ceiling doses of codeine but this stuff is just on a once in a blue moon basis so I have basically zero tolerance and this will be my first proper opiate buzz, while I do enjoy codeine I prefer to keep it low doses mixed with weed for chilling and have never really tried it on its own. My fiancee used to take co-codamol (30/500) all the time, she basically grew up with them all around and her family just reffered to them as stronger pain killers so she never really feels anything while I can be pretty chill on 60mg codeine even if I am already tired. Does she have some kind of long built up tolerance? She hasn't taken any codeine apart from one session with me in the last 6 months or so.

Anyway, is Morphine the right opiate for me? It seems to be from what I know of it and when I got a few teeth taken out the morphine given to me was 500% pure ecstasy and I was happily humming star wars music for like an hour while my parents laughed at me (I was only 12 or something). What kind of dose should I start on? Also, thanks everyone who will warn me to be careful because of the addictive potential, well I know myself that me and my fiancee have very addictive personalitys and I will make sure to not take any opiates for a good couple months after this, this is just the only type of drug I have never really explored and it seems like I would enjoy opiates very much.

Any help / info that will aid me in this experience is much apreciated, I just wanted to ask some experts first so I would have a good basis to start my research with morphine on.
 
Morphine is a tricky one because it's oral bioavailbility sucks, it's only around 20%. Don't they have some oxy you can take instead?

Unless you're willing to plug it Morphine really is mostly wasted.
 
You could always use the morphine and do a home cook with it and make it into heroin. but that might be a little too much for a nub. google home cook heroin. iv always wanted to try that. its all the rage down under. the Aussies and new zelanders home cook like mad.
 
Everyones body breaks down Morphine differently.........I feel small amounts when ever I take it so I guess im lucky that it breaks down easily for me. The BA for Morphine is different percentages for everyone.......thing is, you gotta try it out yourself & find out if it works for you orally.............
 
krazikomi said:
You could always use the morphine and do a home cook with it and make it into heroin. but that might be a little too much for a nub. google home cook heroin. iv always wanted to try that. its all the rage down under. the Aussies and new zelanders home cook like mad.
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It's super easy but you need AA, hard to get in the USA, or so has been my experience. I prefer morphine to heroin though.

@OP if you have an addictive personality, which everyone does, morphine is probably not the best idea.
 
If you don't feel comfortable plugging, oral is your best bet. Since 60mg of codeine gets you a nice buzz, don't worry about "wasting it" like many people will say. Even if you only absorb 20% of the drug, I feel like this one time (or every once and a while time) will still give you the bang for your buck.

Update us when you actually receive them, identify the pill, and tell us the maker and if it is IR or ER. It varies by person, but I'm a personal fan of generic IR morphine over the MScontin/Morphine ER.

I would say you should start off with 10mg orally, and perhaps even less plugged. Plugging will be the best option because it kicks in a lot faster so you can titrate your dose better. If you take, lets say, 10mg orally and don't feel anything after an hour, your metabolism could just be slow, and you could end up taking 10 more mg's and end up getting sick later. No fun.
 
I have a fairly high opiate tolerance, and morphine never did me wrong. If it's pills I would start with 10-15 mg, if you snort no more than 10 the first hour or so. Anymore than that you might get the standard nauseous side effects. On the other hand if you want a good experience if you insufflate the morphine you'll have a higher chance of mild hallucinations from the quick onset. That's always fun if you're into that sorta thing. Regardless you should expect something like that to happen otherwise you might freak out (seen it happen a couple times). Either way be safe and have fun. You sound like you have good willpower so addiction shouldn't be a problem for you
 
dont mean to be the ass guy but plug it maybe? idk just a thought, going from codeine from heroin is sort of like throwing a boulder in a kiddie pool
 
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Plugging is for sure the way to go. Much less nausea. But I highly agree with the poster above me. Codeine to heroin is a huge leap. dontdoit.
 
What are you guys talking about? "it's a waste" "make it into heroin"

There is some terrible advice in this thread, keep in mind this is a harm reduction site.



If the OP truly has almost no opiate tolerance then Morphine will be perfect for him. It's only a waste for users with high tolerances.
If you can get high on 60mg codeine then you'll have a fun time on Morphine trust me.
 
Thanks for the replys guys, I havent been able to get in contact with said friend but he always disapears for a few days so im not fussed. I will ask again what is available, my 1st choice for an opiate would be opium but I dont know anyone that can get it and my funds are low so im not going to buy thousands of poppys. I will check back here once I know what I can get and change the title of this thread to more of a good starter opiate thread. I have never rectally administered a drug before but it does not bother me that much, I have heard of people snorting morphine pills as well, is that true?

Also any advice on my fiancee's tolerance question? Thanks a lot for all the replies, I really am looking forward to trying something new.
I will not be taking heroin, I would like to try it one day but right now im not at a good point in my life for it to be 'safe' mentally for me to try it. I will hold back on that one for at least a couple of years as I fear I would just like it too much.
 
I was not recommending the OP make heroin, I was just agreeing that it is easy.

If your tolerance is 60mg codeine, you'll be able to get off very well off low dose oral morphine.

Snorting morphine pills is a pretty wasteful way to take morphine, but it can have a higher bioavailability than oral dosing.
 
yeah, snorting can be up to 3 times as powerful
actually, I'd say snorting and plugging would give the same effects, but plugging would probably kick in a little faster

as for your fiancee, she has more opiate experience and I've been told that females generally have a higher natural tolerance for opiates, but I have no report to cite that statement. I have an incredible tolerance and no matter how much codeine I took, I wouldn't even be able to keep withdrawals at bay with it. If she is looking to take morphine as well, she will definitely need a higher dose than you. But unless you can give us an average opiate dose to feel anything, I wouldn't feel comfortable telling you a starting dose for her.
 
Well she has claimed to have never felt anything from codeine but that one session we had earlier, she was already pretty wasted and we ingested anywere between 100 - 300mg's codeine as I had a liquid bottle. She took an unknown amount from another bottle around 8 months ago or so I remember now while she was staying with friends and she said she felt like she overdid it a lot and couldn't move but we were arguing so she was already in a terrible mood. So unforunatley, I cant really give you a dose for her but does tolerance build quickly with this shit does it? We will just take it slow with her I suppose and she can always take more but not less.

EDIT: If the person has any tramadol available I will definatley pick up a few as to me it was pure euphoria
 
comatoserct said:
yeah, snorting can be up to 3 times as powerful
actually, I'd say snorting and plugging would give the same effects, but plugging would probably kick in a little faster

as for your fiancee, she has more opiate experience and I've been told that females generally have a higher natural tolerance for opiates, but I have no report to cite that statement. I have an incredible tolerance and no matter how much codeine I took, I wouldn't even be able to keep withdrawals at bay with it. If she is looking to take morphine as well, she will definitely need a higher dose than you. But unless you can give us an average opiate dose to feel anything, I wouldn't feel comfortable telling you a starting dose for her.
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I'm pretty sure the only way you can get close to the plugged bioavailability with snorting is to use chitosan.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11907197
 
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