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Opioids Morphine ER Questions

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baschoen

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Hey guys I know there is no pill identification on this site, I'm not looking for that. I have the abg 60 mg morphines not sure what brand they are doesn't really matter. I just know that they are ER pills. SO my question is when you crush these to snort/parachute/plug (I've done all 3 mostly plugging though) is the time release completely defeted? I ask this because I only have one left and am going to be going back to my sub so I want to know how long I am going to have to wait. I know people say wait 24 hours but I NEVER wait 24 hours I'm already in way too much withdrawal 6-8 hours after my last dose of whatever it is. I usually try and wait at least 12 hours to take my sub (I'm on a really low dose now too 1mg). Basically what I want to know is, how long should I expect these to last I only got 4 and plugged one and a half last night snorted the rest, I fell asleep about 3 hours later and was still feeling the effects. I plugged half of one this morning and snorted the rest and I'm feeling pretty good still that was about an hour and a half ago. Sorry there are a lot of questions in here and this thread is very poorly written but that's what happens when you try and ask a bunch of random questions while messed up haha. Again my apologies...
 
The ER morphine pills aren't very good for snorting/shooting, since most have the tendency to gel up like a bastard. (Not all brands gel, but I am not experienced with morphine really so I am not sure which ones do) Orally the bio-availability is quite poor, but plugging is basically the best ROA to use these pills. If you have one left I suggest plugging it to get the most out of it. I am not sure if crushing them completely defeats the time release due to the ER matrix of the pill, but it certainly helps. Plugging is honestly your best bet. {According to the morphine mega thread the BA of oral, insufflation, and plugging are all ~30%, but plugging definitely is more effective in my experience. Your mileage may vary though}

As for when to dose suboxone, there is no exact number of hours you need to wait. Just make sure you are in sufficient withdrawals, then wait another hour. The half life of morphine is not that long, so 12-16 hours should be fine. When I was doing oxycodone and heroin I would dose my subs as early as 8 hours after my last shot. I never got precipitated withdrawal. The only drug you really need to wait a long time for is methadone. I precipiated withdrawals dosing 1mg of sub 36 hours after my last dose of methadone. big mistake.

Browse these threads:

Suboxone Mega Thread

Morphine Mega Thread
 
These haven't really been gelling up which is nice. I guess Ill just plug the last one like at 6 tonight (If I can wait that long haha) and then hope by the time I wake up in the morning I am able to take my sub...
 
If you dose your last one at 6 tonight, tomorrow morning would not be a problem to take your sub. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

This thread is pretty self serving though, and I believe your questions were sufficiently answered. I am going to close this, but don't take it personally or as an attack or anything. You are more than welcome to PM me if you have any further questions, or reasons why you think it should be re-opened, and I will confer with the other mods.
 
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