Morning Glory Seeds - 3rd Time - Extraction notes.

[altrez2004]

This is my third time experimenting with LSA in the form of Heavenly blue Morning Glory seeds. I have been reading tons of information about doing an extraction of the LSA from the seeds and wanted to share my notes with everyone. Below are the steps I used along with my trip report of my first trial. Please correct me if I did something wrong.

Items used: 100 ml of golden grain alcohol, coffee grinder, 600 Heavenly blue morning glory seeds and a jar to hold it in.

I took the 600 seeds and ground them up slowly in the coffee grinder once they where grounded. I then added them to a mason jar along with 100 ml of golden grain alcohol "195 proof".

I shook the seeds 3 times a day for 4 days and on the 5 day I had this yellowed colored liquid. I then filtered the liquid into a measuring cup. I then took a little more golden grain and washed out the jar and poured it through the seed mush and filter. I ended up with 100 ml of pee colored alcohol.

The way I figured it was that 1ml = 6 seeds. And from my test's of eating the seeds I know that 50 provides a good effect for me. But also knowing that the extraction would be weaker I decided to dose on 25 ml of my extraction. This would be equal to 150 seeds.

T+0:00 Drank a coke with 25ml of the extract in it. Taste was not bad and It went down easily.

T+0:30 I am feeling the Golden Grain its works fast on an empty stomach.

T+1:00 Don't feel the golden grain anymore and I don't feel any effects from the seeds either.

T+2:00 Still no effects so I smoke some weed to see if It will draw out the LSA.

T+3:00 I feel nothing at all I was stoned for about 15 minutes from smoking but then came down.

The rest of the day was normal and I never felt the seeds working on me.
I don't think I did anything wrong but I could of. I am going to try it again with 50 ml of extract to see if I notice any effects. As a side note these seeds came from the same bag that I have been testing with so I know they are viable.

Much love

-Altrez

 

[bluedolphin]

Sorry that didn't work out for you.

LSA extractions are hard to pull of thought, and the success rate for people actually getting good trips that way is pretty low. I'd stick to eating them, personally. Or better yet find some HBWR seeds, which have somewhat less negative effects.

 

[altrez2004]

I have decided to evaporate the rest of the extract "75ml" so that it leaves just the LSA at the bottom. I am going to scrape that up with a razor blade and cut it in half. Then take half and wait 2 hours then take the second half. If that produces no effects I am going to try a second time. With more seeds, less golden grain mixing 10 times a day and let it sit for 10 days.

I really think this is possible and I want to make it work. What type of Microscope would one need to see LSA in a liquid extract? I am sure thats possible. wouldn't you see something other then golden grain under the scope? Would you be able to verify that the extract worked? Or at least that it is working?

Thanks for reading. And for the help


-Altrez

 

[sparkle_jez]

^^ I probably don't think you should boil it, because you'll destroy the LSA.
Like LSD it's a really sensitive substance that is utterly destroyed in heat. It even breaks down rapidly in prolonged exposure to light.

Bluedolphin is absolutely correct. Extractions very rarely work, and even when they do, they don't seem to produce very good effects (possibly because you are destroying/filtering out other alkaloids/substances in the seeds that contribute to the effects when used in combination with each other).
I mean, just take a look at all the trip reports on erowid where people attempted extractions.....Most were utter failiures!

The question is , why are you wanting to extract?
It's usually because people don't feel comfortable with the nausea and other weird unpleasant side-effects, and so if this is the case with you I suggest that you either:

a.) Avoid morning glory seeds/hwbr entirely (which you probably aren't willing to do lol) and find another psychedelic without as much nausea.

or

b.) Give the sublingual method a go......Chew the seeds, leave the chewed up pulp in your mouth for as long as possible, preferably 20-30 minutes (though 10 worked for me!), then instead of swallowing, spit them out!
The substances should've been absorbed into your bloodstream through your glands in your mouth (in the tongue), just like LSD tabs!
This does reduce nausea, and muscle cramps (apparently, though I never suffered from that side-effect).........You may need more seeds though, double dose perhaps.

 

[altrez2004]

I was not going to use heat.. I think a fan and a glass dish will work fine. In a very dark and cool place. I don't mind the sickness I understand that its just part of it at larger doses. I just want to see if it can be done. I want to see if I can do it. I think there is a lesson in everything. And if all I wanted was to get fucked up.. I can do that allot easier and cheaper The thing is I want to learn.


Thanks for reading.

-Altrez

 

[sparkle_jez]

ok.

but sublingual subligual!

 

[bluedolphin]

Right on sparkle_jez