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morning glory, just want some personal expierence/advice

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So i just got a bag of 1500 seeds , heavinly blues(sorry spelling, im on my phone) me and a friend( who i recently started tripping with, acid n such) weregoing to split it. 750 each. (Yes we know its a heavy dose, thats what we like). I was wondering if anyone knew good ways to injest. Cant perform an extraction as im not home an wont be till ghe day of the trip. Is there anything we can take to amplify visuals, reduce nausea. Good (easy) recipies(i dont have an oven). Im tryingto get shrooms to do it with it...not sure if this is a good or bad combo. Only saw 1 report on erowid about that combo. Also please feel free to share personal experiences with your mentioned method an nasua fighging techniques:) againsorry for the typos.
 
Why can't you just start with a normal dose (if not low) and what is the point of combining with mushrooms? 'We are just like that' is a super weak argument. In any case try it on its own a few times before you start combining, although smoking weed on the afterglow is generally recommended I must say.
 
I cant do anything that will pop on a regular pisstest. And iv done lowdose seeds. Didnt do anything for me. It was roughly 300 count. We bothenjoy extreamly visual trips. OEV's. Acid has yet to get me where i want. Its more mental "enjoyment". I havnt seen fractuals on 4 hits. Just shit bending and moving.
 
Also if i were to do the alc extraction pulled from erowid, what is the point of pretreating with petroleum ether? Would an alcohol soak not work on its own?
 
I would say its easiest just to wash the seeds with soap and water then eat them.
You're almost guaranteed to feel nauseas and you're almost guaranteed to vomit.
I would say try to keep it held down until about 45 minutes since you ate them and then let yourself puke it all up.
You feel SO MUCH BETTER after puking these up.
I've never done morning glory but I've done HBWR and I didn't start tripping until I puked and after that it was a very fun lucid trip
 
wash the seeds, get a coffee grinder, grind em up, get some empy gel-caps, put powder in the caps, eat em and relax. easy to swallow and get big doses to hit all at once. smoking weed n inhaling nitrous is a nice touch aswell.
 
^ And spend hours in agony as a mass of indigestible seed material winds its way through your GI tract. Better procedure: Put powder in empty tea bags, soak in cold water for 30 minutes, pull the tea bags out and throw them away and drink the water.
 
And for your next LSA adventure I would recommend HBWR over morning glory.
Nine seeds skinned and soaked in a shot glass of lime juice and down the hatch it went.
The nausea was still unbearable but at least I didn't have that massive lump of seeds in my belly like the above poster mentioned
 
When I grind mine I don't get powder I get goop. Are the type you guys get dried. I pick mine. And poster there really isn't any way around the nausea. I don't know if beer helps but I always wash them down with it and I get over it without puking. Tripped twice back in Oct 500 each dose. Visuals are never great on morning glory. Mushrooms much better, acid well that goes without saying.
 
I never really got much visually from morning glory seeds...if going for a very visual trip and you have access to mushrooms then that would be your best bet for visual activity. At any rate, a couple of the best experiences I have had with morning glory seeds involved first washing the seeds with soap and water, drying them thoroughly, grinding them up, and extracting with anise extract. After removing the liquid from the seed pulp, I diluted it to about twice its original volume (at which point it became quite cloudy, almost white) and added a little sugar to help it go down easier. Made it something similar to sambouca, but then if you have an aversion to liquorice then obviously this would not be so nice. I definately got effects from the morning glories, and the nausia factor was greatly reduced. I suspect something in the water soluble fraction is responsible for the nausia, which may make it easier on the tummy to extract using relatively high proof alcohol vs water extraction. In the extraction tek mentioned, the petroleum ether is to remove any oil/wax/fatty stuff resulting in a cleaner extract overall, but is not entirely necessary. Provided such a solvent evaporates completely and cleanly it may reduce the body load a bit, but then again it also may not. One problem I have had with pure water extraction is that the seed pulp turns into a slimy goo that is hard to filter out. Once I finally did manage to separate most of the pulp from the water extract, it was like how I would imagine drinking snot to be. Coupled with the flavor of morning glory seeds causing instant gag reflex for me, it was just not worth it to me. This was not a problem with the anise extract as my solvent, and I suspect would also not be an issue with any high proof alcohol extraction. Filtration was easy, and there was very little flavor from the morning glory seeds in the final product (perhaps masked by the anise?).
 
LSA should not be attempted if you are looking for visuals.
However they provide a fantastic and very psychedelic headspace with an awesome body high.
I spent the whole time laughing and chilling with my friends even though I was the only one who was high and had a blast.
 
To the OP, I've had about 8-9 quality LSD trips from light 120mcg to stong 410mcg, about 3-4 MG trips (from light to common) and about 6-7 HBWS (ranging from mild to common).

LSA in neither HWB or MG obviously isn't as psychedelic as LSD however it has its own useful propreties. I have enjoyed myself on LSA just as much as on LSD, I've had LSA first and then LSD but even after LSD I continued taking LSA.

My strongest LSA experience was with MG when I hardly had a tolerence to weed much less psychedelics, prevoious to this I had attempted once & threw up much too qucik as I was chewing the seeds. A few days later I had a little over a paketed taken the same way & could definatley feel an energetic flow of thoughts while feeling very calm and meditative, a bit stoned like and the nausea this time was minimal.

I decided to get enough packets 6-7 wash them & grind them up in the coffee grinder having passed a couple days since last time, I prepared more for this time and had on hand about 0.6g good grade cannabis for potential nausea which at the time I smoked once a week so my tolerence to weed as next to none. It always takes 2hrs to notice anyting, for the first 2hrs esp on MG I always need to lay down due to noticable stomach cramps/nausea and some vassoconstriction thats noticable in the legs/feet (smoking worsen it). I decided to save my weed for the 2hr-3hr+ part once I was already feeling the MG. At this time I was able to walk around without much troule, no nausea & body load is much easier. I went outside & it was extremely bright, my pupils were like saucers, my mindstate was positive but clearly psychedelically influenced. I had trouble and was confused at extremely easy tasks for example I decided to smoke a bowl/two & go in the summer day outside, after smoking I got ready to go outside to a park nearby. I needed sunglasses this time and the weed brought the LSA trip to the perfect level, I was content, deep in meditative thought, content, mellow and relatively collected while walking in the shining sun towards the park. While walking a little distance I realized I was wearing slippers with my socks on and further I had been carrying a house glass half full of water, eventually made it to the park and haf a nice time being high on MG.

I would like to point out that of all LSA trips it was the most similar to LSD in terms of the visual intensity and abstact nature of the visuals, even before the weed but the weed definatley kicked it in full effect.

I've had several trips on HBWR ranging from as little as 3-4 seeds to as many as 8 seeds. In comparion to MG (to me) there is no nausea (I crush it in a coffe grinder, the amount of 3-5 seeds is very small & is chuged with water/juice). The effects take just as long to come up usually noticable at the 2hr make, however the vasoconstriction is more noticable so a beer can work well to relax the heavy muscle feeling. After 2hrs the negative effects start to fadeaway and it gives way for the LSA high however I notced the high from LSA is much more psychedelic then HBWR, where HBWR is a very sedative like psychedelic that feels like having had a small dose MDMA along with some alcohol. The psychedelic (visuals) aren't as pronounced however the intesification of colours is still there is the psychedelic mindset however it is much lighter than the mindfuck from MG where I remeber when I changed my shirt it took me 2-3 minutes to get out of the t-shirt as I got lost in it.

I say take MG for a psychedelic visual experience and take HBWR as a natural alternative to small alcohol/mdma mix, however I have used it as a straight up sedative to relax since HBWR is so sedating its like the Indica of LSA seeds however unlike a straight up sedative its very nice and introspective not too much to handle.
 
I forgot, if you want to get visuals I highly recommend you get yourself some nitrous oxide. I got about 30 hits last time I did HBWR, make sure its during the peak but the effects are short lived. Small dose Ketamine (which I don't like) along with nitrous oxide gave me DMT like visuals but extremely euphoric (definatley worth a try).
 
Thanks for the input, while readingi had an idea, if i were to perform the petrolum/alc extraction then evaperate the alc would i be left with a somewhat pure LSA product?
 
^Dont know much about that but have used LSA many times, and other psycs. I've posted different doses over time, but I think 200 too 400, CWE or just eaten, is a very good experience. I might even go on the lower side if chewed. Maybe someone has a link, but I've read there are other alkaloids in the shell. On the real though, LSA is good for meditation.
 
One problem I have had with pure water extraction is that the seed pulp turns into a slimy goo that is hard to filter out. Once I finally did manage to separate most of the pulp from the water extract, it was like how I would imagine drinking snot to be. Coupled with the flavor of morning glory seeds causing instant gag reflex for me, it was just not worth it to me. This was not a problem with the anise extract as my solvent, and I suspect would also not be an issue with any high proof alcohol extraction. Filtration was easy, and there was very little flavor from the morning glory seeds in the final product (perhaps masked by the anise?).

This is why I suggested up above putting the ground-up seeds in an empty tea bag before soaking them in the water, because then it's really easy to filter them out (you just take out the tea bag :)). I have noticed before that inside the tea bag it'll get all slimy and sometimes it starts to leak out through the pores. Maybe teabagging in everclear/vodka/etc. would be the easiest and least nausea-inducing method of all.
 
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