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Morning Glory Extraction - Inexp'd - Success

Ray K. Hessel

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After reading the lsa extraction tek either gogwalla or fastn bulby posted in psychedelic discussion, I decided to try an extraction.

Copied from my notes, Januaray 14th 2k6

I feel a small dose is good to start, to trip I would take a bag completely stuffed en
tirely full.

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I mixxed these powdered seeds with a generous portion of Cream of Tartar, which is a slightly acidic salt of Tartaric Acid. I tested its acidity by psudoscientific reaction with baking soda, and was delighted by some fizzles.

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I stirred the shit in about a quart of water for 13 minutes, then filtered. Results:

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Trip Report:
1815
Water stuff chugged. It tastes like the tartar shit, not unplesant, but definately acidic.

My mindset is depressed as all hell, and a little bit sleepy.

1830
Neausa present, but I dont really mind neausa, Its a nice little roadblock to good trips.

1832
Neausa transformed to stonedness with a bong rip, I lay down in bed

1839
Distinctly tripping. Even the bong rip, upon contemplation, went down like I was tripping. V. Fast onset.

1839-1930
A feverish high, accompanied by my standard early trip, namely a period of extreme timeless pennance for the sober parts of my life.

I break down and cry like a woman when I realize that I'm depressed because I've left my family again to resume college. I write some about my family, while crying like a girl.

1930
I realize the fever portion of the trip has broken when Taj Mahal’s “Crossing” hits my speakers. He is singing my story tonight. I write a bunch of fun science fiction-y ideas, having a good time.

2208
A celebratory wine cooler I forgot was in my fridge.

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I’m happy to have found a readily available psychedelic. The neausa was totally bearable, and I didn’t get any fish-eye type hallucinations.

The real reason I’ve stayed away from morning glory and HBWR since my last dozen or so experiences was the leg pain they brought me, that shit just felt toxic. I didn’t experience any of that here, although this was probably an all time low dosage for me.

PS- Mods I downsampled the hell outta these pictures, so I figure they won't take up too much bandwidth
 
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damn you for taking a hit of weed :(

I wanted to know how the nausea would be without cannabis....None the less sounds interesting and less complex then the other acid/base extractions that are around in the lycaeum and such.
 
Yikes, Cisco. That shit fucks you up so bad but gives you a nasty hangover. Hell even I won't drink that bum wine ;)
 
LSA has always been a dark substance for me. I can't think of a time that I've taken it without crying like a baby. I don't know if that's just something it makes you do, or if it's an introspective substance and I just have a lot of baggage to cry over. Either way, I can't see myself doing it again.

Glad to hear about the extraction though.
 
subdefy said:
damn you for taking a hit of weed :(

I wanted to know how the nausea would be without cannabis....None the less sounds interesting and less complex then the other acid/base extractions that are around in the lycaeum and such.


The whole extraction process took 20 minutes, and that includes the time it spent sitting in the water, waiting for shit to extract. It was so easy and fast I wouldnt even call it chemistry.
 
would a hot bath on that liquid have resulted in a powder, or an oil i wonder?.. anyone know?
 
the 1839-1830 period was definately the "peak" of the trip. But you know how a "peak" is really due to your mindset, not the drug. However, I caution you that this was a low dose and it may be different with a real tripper's dose.

I forgot to mention that 1) I put in FAR more tartaric salt than the chemistry head suggested in the extraction thread, and 2) the hit of weed really made the neausa bearable, which was not the case in my previous experiences. (before weed did nothing for the neausa.)

I had a friend try it the next day with a slightly bigger dose, with less tartar salt. He reported neausa, but it wasn't enough for him to to try and vomit to alieviate it. His dose was still small, although considerably more than my dose. He reported a +1 state 17 minutes after he drank the concoction. Neither his nor my trips ever reached more than a +2. I wish I could be scientific with you guys, but my roomate stole my scale and moved out after I crushed the seeds, so weights are inscrutable.

I would also like to remind you guys that Cream of Tartar can be bought in ANY gerocery store, in the spice isle.
 
Thanks, that's a very interesting report and a new extraction method i feel worth trying.

Could somebody knowledgeable please, for the sake of us unlucky non US residents, please explain what exactly is cream of Tartar, active ingridients?
 
So all you do is soak the seeds in tartaric acid/water soloution for a while, strain then drink.

Is that it?
 
Is it possible to make the solution too acidic with cream of tartar or orange/lemon juice? Could it break down the alkaloids? What would indicate the right amount of tartaric acid?
 
nice bump :) for reference, pictures are ok so long as they're not too big or clearly stolen from somewhere else.
 
I have to try this, after two different failed methods with LSA. I wish you could have clarified the amount of Tartaric Acid to amount of MG seeds.

Thanks for this =)
 
Citric acid works well in lieu of tartaric, but be careful not to use too much, as the heartburn is a bitch.
 
Looks like an interesting extraction method.


Ray K. Hussel: how many seeds for a +2 trip?
 
morninggloryseed said:
A literal pinch (i.e 50mg to 100mg) should be more than sufficient.
egor said:
Citric acid works well in lieu of tartaric, but be careful not to use too much, as the heartburn is a bitch.

Thanks MGS and Egor, didn't think anyone would reply...atleast not that soon lol =D
 
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