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(Morning Glories/12.5g/Second time) Crippling Nausea, pure bliss

IamMe90

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Just had my second MG experience yesterday... very ambivalent regarding whether or not I'll pursue it again. Thought I'd write up a trip report for you guys because this drug/plant has a LOT of debate surrounding its effectiveness. :D

Summary: Grueling, crippling nausea the first couple hours, amazing second half of the experience.

Preparation: Bought 12.5g untreated MG seeds from a local florist and ground them up with a coffee grinder, capping all of the matter (this used up 45 caps). I insist upon swallowing the plant matter because the only two times I've gotten psychedelic effects from these seeds have been ingesting them, not using extracts.

The Trip:

t + 0: It's 2:30pm and I down the seeds, feeling slight unease at the memory of my last, horrible experience with MGs. Hoping a better set (feeling great at the start of Summer!) and setting (it's a beautiful and sunny Summer day out and I have the house alone until at least 10pm) remedy this.

t + 30: Not feeling much except a slight nausea and lethargy. At this point, everything is very manageable.

t + 1:30: Now everything is really kicking into gear. The effects are becoming VERY noticeable (OEVs and CEVs and a dreamy, haze-like distortion of sound) but is difficult for me to pay attention to because the nausea is becoming absolutely crippling. I can feel it in every cell of my body and the vasoconstriction and aching muscles (mostly my inner thighs) isn't helping. I feel mostly poisoned and the nausea is as strong as when I was hospitalized with DKA. Just want this to be over... I vape up some ganja in an attempt to help. It doesn't lessen the nausea, but significantly increases the visual nature of the trip.

t + 2:00: After some significant vomiting, the nausea has finally just about dissipated completely. At this point, I'm feeling fantastic! I lay outside in the warmth (it was probably about 82 degrees out with full sun) in my backyard with some headphones on, listening to radiohead. The music sounds absolutely ASTOUNDING at this point (really, just as good as a strong acid trip! I'm quite surprised at this), it really melts over me and some closed-eye visual/audio synesthesia can be observed. The body high, now that the nausea is gone, is really out of this world, I am rolling around in the grass as if I'm rolling face on good pills, shuddering with ecstasy at the way the blades touch my skin. Movement seems to be a very big part of the experience for me: even while sitting on the couch or walking, I can't help but spontaneously moving around, in a fluid sort of way, it feels like a kind of dancing, as I'm infected by some spirit of movement. And, it just feels good to move. Outside, I stare awhile at the plants in my yard and the grass... the open eye visuals have a very organic feel to them, and are surprisingly reminiscent to those of a potent 2g cubensis trip. Closed eye visual, on the other hand, are a sort of weird mix between tryptamine organic qualities and phenethylamine characteristics, like lush 2c-e colors. The organic patterns seem to undergo digitalization/transformation into more mordern looking phen visual patterns, and vice versa.

t + 2:30: I go back inside and play some piano (mostly Chopin, some Rachmaninoff, a few of my own pieces), and am further amazed by this trip. Usually, entactogens are the drugs most conducive to music playing for me, as they allow me to open and be passionate more so than others... but this drug takes the cake for great music playing. I had crazy synesthesia seeing tracers move to the notes, and my playing was better than ever.

t + 3 to remainder... I lay down on my couch listening to music, getting lost in it. After an hour or so, i fall asleep (it's about 6pm now) and don't wake up until midnight. After I wake up, I go back to bed shortly, still feeling tired and wake up the next day. No hangover to speak of, a pleasant afterglow, I feel great.

So, basically this trip was very intense which surprised me... I'm split whether or not to do it again because while the second half blew me away and I loved it, the first half, mostly the nausea, was absolutely awful. Hmm..
 
good report! you're not alone in your questioning as to whether or not this substance is worthwhile, i know that personally i will probably never bother with the seeds again. the nausea and body load is just too much. have you tried LSD? that may get you the same beneficial musical effects without the negatives of LSA.

also, 45 capsules? that's nutso, what size did you use? i was able to fit 15g of T. Peruvianus into 12 size 000 caps without much difficulty.
 
The only reason I won't ever do Morning Glories ever again is because of the nausea... is there any way to get rid of it? Or make sure it doesn't happen?

Perhaps making a tea or something? Idk. I want it to be potent but I don't want to feel like shit the entire time.
 
Yeah the nausea is almost too much. It felt like I had a lump in my stomach for the entire trip and I was having circulation probelms as well. Nice visuals and great euphoria otherwise but why bother with so many other great psychedelics out there.
Good report :)
 
good report! you're not alone in your questioning as to whether or not this substance is worthwhile, i know that personally i will probably never bother with the seeds again. the nausea and body load is just too much. have you tried LSD? that may get you the same beneficial musical effects without the negatives of LSA.

also, 45 capsules? that's nutso, what size did you use? i was able to fit 15g of T. Peruvianus into 12 size 000 caps without much difficulty.

Yeah, I only have size 0 caps, rather stupid purchase but at the time I had no idea there existed larger caps. :(

And yeah, I have a decent amount of experience, having indulged in LSD, psilocin, DOC, 4-aco-dmt, Moxy, 4-aco-dipt, DMT, 2c-e, 2c-i, 2c-d, DXM, MDA, and probably a few others that elude my mind at the moment. I just really wanted to give LSA its fair shot and to be honest out of all the psychedelics on that list I've never gotten a better body high or music playing enhancement from any of them. I think MDA and LSD are probably the only ones to match the euphoria I had as well. So, that's what keeps me wondering whether or not I'll give it another chance.

The only reason I won't ever do Morning Glories ever again is because of the nausea... is there any way to get rid of it? Or make sure it doesn't happen?

Perhaps making a tea or something? Idk. I want it to be potent but I don't want to feel like shit the entire time.

Someone suggested using HBRW seed mash instead and doing it sublingually to get rid of the nausea... I've considered this and will be sure to write up a TR if I do. :)
 
Someone suggested using HBRW seed mash instead and doing it sublingually to get rid of the nausea... I've considered this and will be sure to write up a TR if I do. :)

I vastly prefer HBWR, but per my experience and anecdote from the other people I gave MG's to, that trip is much more visual.

The nausea is just too much for me with MG's, so I recommend HBWR's--they're just different. I've passed on some advice to others trying those in some threads on BL
 
MG seeds are a mixed bag for sure. I think the nausea and vomiting on the come-up are just part of the package with them. I find the negative effects pass by the time the trip really starts though.

In my opinion, they are definitely worth trying for people with an interest in trying novel drugs, but I concede they don't have the mass appeal of more mainstream psychedelics. At least they will probably stay legal because of that.
 
I get less nausea from HBWR seeds but the trip feels "lazy" in many ways. Maybe I am just more into feeling "up" when I trip, so that I have energy to explore my new visions. MG seeds cause me extremem stomach pains so I stay away these days.
 
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