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mornig glory, lsa. how many plant would it take to fill one sandwitch bag full?

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a few years ago my friend went through some mental problems. i was in his freezer (he lived with his mother), around that time, and i noticed what i now know to be morning glory seeds. we both had no idea what they were at the time. he also had severe bowel trouble around then. a few years later he told me that one night when she was drinking with a friend, she had turned to him and told him that she fed him the seeds by way of the pepper grinder(and of course told him what they were). of course no one believed him, his mother is a seemingly good person, as well as the fact that he had mental problems.

i guess in short my question is, how many morning glory plants would hve to be grown to 3/4 fill (bulging) a ziplock sandwitch bag?

in the end, the fact that bothers me is: they never even had one plant in the yard. why would someone go to obvious great lengths to procure such a large amount and never plant a single flower.

i tell you this with the best of intentions. neither him nor i consume any drug of any sort, and have not done so for at least a year.

i understand that this sort of question may be off limits, but in truth, i dont know where else to ask.
 
Morning glory plants are incredibly prolific; I'd say a single plant in a well-tended garden could produce several ounces of seeds (but you would have noticed the flowers before the harvest as they are quite beautiful). Also many entheogenic supply shops online sell seeds by the pound.

I'm not sure you exact question-- are you concerned that someone is being dosed without their consent?
 
You think she was feeding him seeds by way of a pepper grinder without him knowing? I think the dose you need to notice any effects at all from morning glory is pretty astronomical. It's not the kind of drug you can just dust on someones cornflakes.
 
Lol ^ that's accurate

Not the best plant for secret-dosing someone. Unless she managed to top his pasta off with a pile of 'crushed pepper' about 2in high lol. Now put some blotters in that grinder and you can make a dinner party into a mad-hatter tea party :-)
 
Haha, thought the exact same thing.

Yeah, the taste by itself would've been a dead give-away, let alone the sheer amount it would take to really do anything at all. But the amount she seems to have procured isn't hard to obtain, especially if she searched online.
 
greenmaeanies: i am concerned that he was being dosed without his consent.

ismene: im not really saying that he didnt notice. in fact im working on the premise that he was given this for a very long period of time. ive heard of a study done on rats, that in fact, did produce "Schizophrenic" behavior in rats in the lab. the study was done with lsd and at a dose that after a while would not have been intoxicating. he told me directly at the time that he felt strange. he does in fact eat a great deal of pepper. he likes hot food. you may feel that i am streatching here but i could see that after putting the reagular amout of pepper on his meal, and not finding it hot, he may have gone to adding more. as far as "dusting on cronflakes" that is not what im sayng. i understand(after some reasearch) that in the properly prepared (suspension)solution as little as twenty seeds are needed for "a good thing."

thoughtsUnThought: thats exacly the point i am making. the guy is Italian, and does eat alot of pepper.

NieghbourHoodThreat: "not to mention that ziplock makes more that one size of bag." that is why i did say that it was a sandwitch size bag. you got different bread? plaese dont add to this post if you only glanced, and decided to ripp on me because you think im new. i am trying to help a man that i am almost possitively sure was wronged in a major way. i understand that as a mod you have alot to read, and believe me when i say: that i mean no disrespect.

huolesoh: when i said i was "in his freezer" i didnt mean litterally; i meant as in, "i was in the freezer getting a beer."

not one of you mentioned the bowel trouble. as i now know; eating the husk of the seed will cause major irritation, or in other words massive diarrea. he once told me during the time that this was happening, he was taking as many as 17 problematic stops to the can a day.

shamanic sight: if you had to: could you describe the taste? i know that when pepper is cooked for a period it develops a bitter taste. i would imagine that if you have eaten the seed alone you would have experinced the bowel trouble. if not, then it would have been eaten in a suspention. rhetorically speaking of course: what was in your suspension that you knew, and how did you decide what actual portion of the mixture you were tasting.


thanx all for your time.
 
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