Moonshine or the Kids?

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Moonshine or the Kids?
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Published: May 22, 2010

MONT-BELO, Congo Republic

There’s an ugly secret of global poverty, one rarely acknowledged by aid groups or U.N. reports. It’s a blunt truth that is politically incorrect, heartbreaking, frustrating and ubiquitous:

It’s that if the poorest families spent as much money educating their children as they do on wine, cigarettes and prostitutes, their children’s prospects would be transformed. Much suffering is caused not only by low incomes, but also by shortsighted private spending decisions by heads of households.

That probably sounds sanctimonious, haughty and callous, but it’s been on my mind while traveling through central Africa with a college student on my annual win-a-trip journey. Here in this Congolese village of Mont-Belo, we met a bright fourth grader, Jovali Obamza, who is about to be expelled from school because his family is three months behind in paying fees. (In theory, public school is free in the Congo Republic. In fact, every single school we visited charges fees.)

We asked to see Jovali’s parents. The dad, Georges Obamza, who weaves straw stools that he sells for $1 each, is unmistakably very poor. He said that the family is eight months behind on its $6-a-month rent and is in danger of being evicted, with nowhere to go.

The Obamzas have no mosquito net, even though they have already lost two of their eight children to malaria. They say they just can’t afford the $6 cost of a net. Nor can they afford the $2.50-a-month tuition for each of their three school-age kids.

“It’s hard to get the money to send the kids to school,” Mr. Obamza explained, a bit embarrassed.

But Mr. Obamza and his wife, Valerie, do have cellphones and say they spend a combined $10 a month on call time.

In addition, Mr. Obamza goes drinking several times a week at a village bar, spending about $1 an evening on moonshine. By his calculation, that adds up to about $12 a month — almost as much as the family rent and school fees combined.

I asked Mr. Obamza why he prioritizes alcohol over educating his kids. He looked pained.

Other villagers said that Mr. Obamza drinks less than the average man in the village (women drink far less). Many other men drink every evening, they said, and also spend money on cigarettes.

“If possible, I drink every day,” Fulbert Mfouna, a 43-year-old whose children have also had to drop out or repeat grades for lack of school fees, said forthrightly. His eldest son, Jude, is still in first grade after repeating for five years because of nonpayment of fees. Meanwhile, Mr. Mfouna acknowledged spending $2 a day on alcohol and cigarettes.

Traditionally, a young man here might have paid his wife’s family a “bride price” of a pair of goats. Now the “bride price” starts with oversized jugs of wine and two bottles of whiskey.

Two M.I.T. economists, Abhijit Banerjee and Esther Duflo, found that the world’s poor typically spend about 2 percent of their income educating their children, and often larger percentages on alcohol and tobacco: 4 percent in rural Papua New Guinea, 6 percent in Indonesia, 8 percent in Mexico. The indigent also spend significant sums on soft drinks, prostitution and extravagant festivals.

Look, I don’t want to be an unctuous party-pooper. But I’ve seen too many children dying of malaria for want of a bed net that the father tells me is unaffordable, even as he spends larger sums on liquor. If we want Mr. Obamza’s children to get an education and sleep under a bed net — well, the simplest option is for their dad to spend fewer evenings in the bar.

Because there’s mounting evidence that mothers are more likely than fathers to spend money educating their kids, one solution is to give women more control over purse strings and more legal title to assets. Some aid groups and U.N. agencies are working on that.

Another approach is microsavings, helping poor people save money when banks aren’t interested in them. It’s becoming increasingly clear that the most powerful part of microfinance isn’t microlending but microsavings.

Microsavings programs, organized by CARE and other organizations, work to turn a consumption culture into a savings culture. The programs often keep household savings in the women’s names, to give mothers more say in spending decisions, and I’ve seen them work in Africa, Latin America and Asia.

Well-meaning humanitarians sometimes burnish suffering to make it seem more virtuous and noble than it often is. If we’re going to make more progress, and get kids like the Obamza children in school and under bed nets, we need to look unflinchingly at uncomfortable truths — and then try to redirect the family money now spent on wine and prostitution.
 
Thanks so much for posting this. This article explores the reality that most people who don't want to be responsible for their own actions fail to acknowledge.
 
^ Agreed (and you are welcome).

But it also points at the deep social destruction inflicted by the dangerous drugs alcohol and tobacco.
If I could, I would legalize all drugs, but if I had to choose a limited number, I would certainly not include those two.
I would much rather have my children smoke marijuana than use either of those drugs.
 
Its sad it is the way it is but things will never change. You can make out the extremely poor who spend more than they can afford in an effort to escape their shitty lifestyle are the bad guys but in my mind its the fat cat executives on salaries so big no sane man could spend it all. If these people weren't so greedy and the true wealth of the world was spread across more than like 5% of the worlds population kids wouldn't be dying of malaria because their parents can't afford a $6 net.
 
I agree slimvictor. Although, I'm sure many of these people would still spend more than they can afford on recreation/self-medication, drugs like cannabis and mdma would be (imo) much less likely to cause someone to prioritize getting high over their kids dying from malaria - and might even cause some people to rethink their lives. :\

This was an informative article, though - I admit I'd never really thought of poverty in undeveloped countries like this.
 
^ Agreed (and you are welcome).

But it also points at the deep social destruction inflicted by the dangerous drugs alcohol and tobacco.

You're looking at it backwards. Alcohol and tobacco seem like necessities for those whose society has already been irrecoverably destroyed. It's very hard to cope with such a shitty life. Can you really blame them for trying to drown their problems out with drugs?
 
I agree slimvictor. drugs like cannabis and mdma would be (imo) much less likely to cause someone to prioritize getting high over their kids dying from malaria - and might even cause some people to rethink their lives. :\

Cannabis and MDMA aren't very affordable in that country. Even locally grown cannabis is going to be destined for the export market, as it will fetch higher prices.
 
only on bluelight would this article be ammunition for why drugs like E and pot are so benign and less harmful than the legal options.

the article is interesting, but silly people could easily take something dangerous away from it: such as that these people don't need help.
 
going out to the bar and spending $1 a night is not really a big deal. The real crime is that these people only make like $60 a month...if even that. Fucking criminal considering the porkers running around the elite circles. Makes me want to be a fascist communist :(
 
Most people in industrialized countries do the same stupid shit, only they have condoms / birth control, credit cards, and other safety nets.

Most of you would do the same if you had 5+ children, lived in a failed state, and wove baskets for a living... I am certain many posters on this site already blow money when they "should" be saving it to better themselves / their family.
 
The real crime is that these people only make like $60 a month

$60 a month goes millions of miles further there than it does here. The number seems tiny until you've lived in places like China or India (both places that I've lived before) where you can live on close to nothing.
 
They make less than $60 a month in many places in Africa... $60 a month is the wage of the average Chinese farmer as of late.
 
Nick Kristof is something of a journalistic god.

article said:
Other villagers said that Mr. Obamza drinks less than the average man in the village (women drink far less) . . . one solution is to give women more control over purse strings and more legal title to assets.

Weird, in my relationships it's always been the girl that can't stop getting high (on dope) when money's tight.
 
You're looking at it backwards. Alcohol and tobacco seem like necessities for those whose society has already been irrecoverably destroyed. It's very hard to cope with such a shitty life. Can you really blame them for trying to drown their problems out with drugs?

I do not think I am looking at it backwards, though I arguably didn't go all the way down the causal chain.
Are you assuming that, because they are poor, their lives are shitty?
As someone above mentioned, people in industrialized countries do the same things, and this includes rich people, who smoke and drink just as much as anyone.
Are everyone's lives shitty, then?
Mine isn't. I am certainly not rich. But then again, I don't smoke tobacco, and I am not even slightly addicted to alcohol.
Couldn't it be the drugs that are causing the shitty life?

I don't blame them for trying to drown their problems, but I believe that it can only lead to more suffering.
 
$60 a month goes millions of miles further there than it does here. The number seems tiny until you've lived in places like China or India (both places that I've lived before) where you can live on close to nothing.

I don't know when you lived in China, but when I lived there in the early 1990's, $60 was considered a low salary. The taxi drivers made $150-200, which was more than the college professors, who made $100. More recently, prices are much higher, and salaries are somewhat higher, so I doubt people could get by very well on that meager salary.
I am willing to bet that you didn't live on $60 a month in China!
 
I don't know when you lived in China, but when I lived there in the early 1990's, $60 was considered a low salary. The taxi drivers made $150-200, which was more than the college professors, who made $100. More recently, prices are much higher, and salaries are somewhat higher, so I doubt people could get by very well on that meager salary.
I am willing to bet that you didn't live on $60 a month in China!

I'm talking about village living, not city living. There's a big difference.
 
Cannabis and MDMA aren't very affordable in that country. Even locally grown cannabis is going to be destined for the export market, as it will fetch higher prices.
I was commenting on what slimvictor said about total legalization - was trying to say that if the legal drugs were less addictive ones, then people might not spend a bit less (although perhaps not since many of these people have cell phones, and they're not physically addictive). :\
 
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