Molly = Meth?

[SlightlyStoopid]

A direct comparison of the behavioral and physiological effects of methamphetamine and 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA) in humans - PMC

Despite their chemical similarities, methamphetamine and 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA) produce differing neurochemical and behavioral responses in animals. In humans, individual studies of methamphetamine and MDMA indicate that the drugs ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Drug-induced social connection: both MDMA and methamphetamine increase feelings of connectedness during controlled dyadic conversations - Scientific Reports

MDMA is a stimulant-like drug with distinctive empathogenic effects. Its pro-social effects, such as feelings of connectedness, may contribute to both its popularity as a recreational drug and its apparent value as an adjunct to psychotherapy. However, little is known about the behavioral...

www.nature.com

Those were interesting reads - thanks for sharing! One of them even said the participants had trouble distinguishing the two from one another. So I guess I’m not alone. Lol

 

[Methamphetanonymous]

Umm.

I will say i have freebased and vaporozed MDA and it was much less enactogenic and more stimulating.

Most MDMA won't vaporize because its a salt, so yeah you prolly are smoking meth.

And no its not true that most "molly" is meth, tho they are sometimes found together .

Okay good I'm not crazy then

I suppose I wouldn't be shocked to be shocked by anything anymore, but I have never heard of anyone smoking MDMA. Is that a thing?

 

[Methamphetanonymous]

Not only is it a thing, but it's kind of fun!

The reason why most of us don't circulate this fact is because we have enough trouble babysitting the candy kids and convincing them not to abuse MDMA. Dosing is easier for a newbie if you're taking a pill, if somebody else weighs that pill for you and you only take one.

...with smoking it's a lot easier to goof on dosage. Also it lasts much less long so the sort of person with an addiction problem is going to be tempted to keep taking it.

You're only getting about 30% of the high when you smoke. But also only about 15% of the hang over. I would say the only reason you need to bother would be if you're the sort of dude who gets wicked MDMA hangovers and wants to ameliorate those.

The real kicker is that if you smoke molly, not only are you getting somewhat of a disappointing high but then you still need to wait the traditional six weeks before you go at it again.

But me? I happen to like smoking. Off topic: I was possibly the first person to smoke MDA.

Fascinating. Is hydrochloride salt behavior relatively common in the substituted amphetamine class? I mean I didn't expect meth to be the only vaporized salt, but can't believe I have never heard of this given the company I kept in my 20s