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Molly Help - Very Apprehensive to Roll Again?

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GHOSTR3V0LV3R

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I guess you can consider this another "Best Way To Roll on Molly" thread, but this one's a bit different.

In the past 2 months, I've admittedly taken ALOT of the old girl to my face. I was basically doing .3 mg and .4 mg two nights (in succession) a week for about 6 weeks. Luckily, I never had a crash or any other serious side effects after doing it, and to be really honest, I had no side effects whatsoever. No crash, no brain zaps, delirium, hallucinations, anxiety, nada. But the main problem is I didn't even roll. Yeah, my eyes got dilated, but honestly, that was the extent of my roll (and the occasional eye twerks). It's been 3 weeks and 3 days since my last attempted roll and I plan to roll this Friday, but what am I doing wrong? (Besides doing the frowned-upon two nights in a row bit, that I won't be doing ever again.)

I took the pills orally (parachuted), preloaded with a decent amount of V-C, didn't eat 5 hours before taking it, washed it down with just a bit of alcohol to increase the roll (or so I've heard alcohol does that), and I've even tried from 5 different dealers. It was pure (or very nearly pure) molly, and all of my friends rolled bawls for 2+ hours everytime. Now no, they're not regular users like me, but these guys even rolled on the 2nd night of doing and rolled EVERYTIME I DID IT TOO. :?

What the hell am I doing wrong??? :X I've heard of plugging, but still have some dignity intact, but would you really recommend it? I don't know if this helps, but I'm a 5'10" male at roughly 150 lbs.

So some quick question:
*Should I plug?
*How long before should I pre-load with 5-htp? V-C? Any other vitamins/supplements you suggest? (to intensify/prolong the roll, not avoid side effects)
*Does being a regular smoker affect my roll? Should I not smoke a cig a certain time before rolling?
*Does alcohol really intensify a roll? (I heard you can't get drunk though - drunkenness will overtake the rolling apparently)


Honestly just lay down the law for me and tell me how I'm going to roll the hardest, longest. <3
 
I guess i'll be first in and say what everyone else will tell you.

Take a solid break man.

Even with every precaution in the book, based on your usage, you really really need to take a good break.

Even if you aren't going to, you could try plugging - but forget the pre-loading, forget whether cigs and alcohol will affect your roll, you most likely won't feel much because your seretonin receptors need atleast 3 months to recover.

Edit; to answer your question fully, do you take any other medication? it is strange you don't feel .3-.4 grams. - if you are taking an anti-depressant it will diminish/negate any effects from taking mdma.)
 
As infectedmushroom stated above, you need to take a break. If your friends only roll for 2+ hours that doesn't sound like mdma to me, have you been testing your mdma to make sure that it is in fact mdma? You might be getting bk-mdma which from what I hear doesn't last as long as mdma (please correct me if I am wrong!) which would account for the 2+ hours your friends are rolling for. Another thing is that mdma doesn't affect everyone, it's quite uncommon but not unheard of, that mdma might not affect someone in the slightest.

If I were you I would take a 3 month break and test my next batch using a marquis test kit purchasable from either Dancesafe (USA only) or EZTest (rest of the world) and make sure that you are actually taking mdma, there are a lot of imitating drugs out there...

Stay safe and roll responsibly, you only have one brain, don't wreck it!
 
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Take a break, test your gear, don't take 5htp on the same day as your roll, multivitamins / vitamin C are good things to be taking if your going to be dancing in a sweaty environment with a lot of people as chances of picking up a bug higher etc. I think that people use a few drinks not to enchance the effects but to get rid / over any anxiety they normally feel during the come up. This is a double edge sword though, too much alcohol and your going to lessen the effects, too many beers and you could feel sick if dancing about for hours on end. That plus alcohol does cause dehydration so that plus sweating etc can be dangerous and give you a really rough comedown.

I personally would not suggest another ROA until your tolerance is down. I normally say (from experience) that if your needing more that 125mgs of MDMA to start rolling then its normally down to - tolerance, body size (yes quality, medication etc are also factors that need to be taken into consideration.

Some people prefer plugging to oral - its personal preference but again if your tolerance is high then your going to just waste your MDMA and run the risk of problems due to heavy use (which do not always show up straight away).
 
Doesn't matter how big your tolerance is, if you're taking .3-.4 and not feeling it then your 'Molly' is most definitely not MDMA or its extremely cut to shit! Make sure to test it (USA - http://dancesafe.org Europe http://eztest.com), take a long break from substance use (3 months +) and then drop a suitable amount of good, tested product (100-120mg's).
 
Well, I was taking Vyvanse for my ADD for a solid 4 months prior, but only the minimum dosage prescribed (20 mg, I believe). I stopped it 2 months ago. It's just had a lot of very annoying side effects (irritability + some shortness of breath)

The only time I ever truly rolled was my first time. After that, it's been hit and miss, more miss. And yeah, I've been considering taking a long break (honestly, until the new year). But I can't lie that I'm a creature of indulgence. My friends do it nearly every weekend, and watching them do it while I sit and put back a few mad dogs or beers is hard enough, and I've done it for nearly four weeks. But you guys are absolutely right. I need nut up and get my will power to take over for once. The only reason I even considered doing this weekend was because I got everything for free, but you guys made me a little bit more weary this time. Regardless, I want to roll for Halloween. I'm from Central Jersey and Halloween is HUGE for us and me and some friends were just gonna party hop all night. Would even then be too soon? Should I be looking for other side effects? Because like I said, I very literally have no side effects ever. I feel completely fine the next day like I didn't even party and all week I feel totally fine when all of my friends are complaining they're crashing.

Also, I've heard fish oil is better than 5-HTP. I've been taking it regularly and feel fantastic. Is this a myth? Or is it just something new that no one really has any solid evidence on? Sorry for the longs posts guys, just got a lot of questions. Also, I know one of my dealers has pure molly. That was the only time my friend rolled for about 4 hours and it was the only time in the 6 weeks of rolling that I felt anything close to a roll. Thanks for the advice peeps :D
 
Ah, thank you Bearlove. Just read your snippet that symptoms don't show up right away. I just don't get it though. I've taken molly 20+ times in my life, and NOT ONCE ever had a negative or even a positive side effect. Matter of factly, I've been doing better than I've done in school in 2 years and I'm holding a job very well. I more perplexed than concerned in all honesty.
 
Your ADD meds could very well have something to do with although I'm not familiar with that particular one, also like others said take a break it is truly in your best interest as you may not feel the negatives right away but it seems like alot people have started to feel them months or years down the road from abuse.
 
Vyvanse is an amphetamine, and I've read it does some horrible things to your cross-tolerance. It's essentially a watered down version of speed and while Aderol gives you more of a head rush, this gives you more of a body rush. But like I said I haven't taken it for nearly 2 months.
 
GHOSTR3V0LV3R said:
Vyvanse is an amphetamine, and I've read it does some horrible things to your cross-tolerance. It's essentially a watered down version of speed and while Aderol gives you more of a head rush, this gives you more of a body rush. But like I said I haven't taken it for nearly 2 months.
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This thread may shed some light on the cross tolerance issues. Taking a break is your safest bet - even if the VyVanse is causing a cross tolerance the amounts you were taking are still really high so a break can only help.
 
JWills20 said:
Doesn't matter how big your tolerance is, if you're taking .3-.4 and not feeling it then your 'Molly' is most definitely not MDMA or its extremely cut to shit! Make sure to test it (USA - http://dancesafe.org Europe http://eztest.com), take a long break from substance use (3 months +) and then drop a suitable amount of good, tested product (100-120mg's).
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If a person is taking .3 or .4 mgs over a length of time they will have a very high tolerance and will therefore need to take .5.6 to feel increased effects. If a person with no tolerance was to take .1 of the same quality gear they would be wasted. Tolerance is exactly that, the person has built a tolerance to the drug due to over or excessive use.

Like I said in my post of course quality of your gear comes into play but I was talking as if the gear being used was decent quality MDMA and not stuff that is bashed etc.
 
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