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Molly/Ecstasy just makes me want to chill out?

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So i've rolled about 4 times. (plus two more times, but it was with shitty molly so i didn't feel much). Of those 4 times, the molly/ecstasy has come from 3 different sources. Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone else has similar reactions to rolling as me.

When i roll, i don't want to dance, hug people, or anything like that. I don't even get really happy. instead, everything just gets super emotionally intense. it can go really well, but it can also go downhill fast. i mostly just want to be still and chill. i literally go into zen mode. my friends even laugh at me because they've never heard of anyone getting meditative on molly.

Now, for a little background. The first time i rolled, it was at a festival, and i either got serotonin syndrome or had a panic attack. basically, what i learned is that molly brings out my issues with anxiety. thus, my theory is that i have to go into zen mode when i roll because otherwise i get really anxious.

the most recent time i rolled, it was while just hanging out with friends, and it was actually rather pleasant. i had a really good but also super chill time i think i liked it better than rolling at a show. i'm still not sure if it's worth doing, but it wasn't bad. anyway, hopefully this helps someone who also has a brain as weird as mine. =]
 
Did you test your stuff or check the reputation of the pills?

I've only ever heard of anxiety on the come up with MDMA, never at any other point in the trip although I'm sure it's possible.
 
I'm the same with molly, just makes me want to hang out and chill, still feels awesome though. I never get anxious or anything while rolling, but on the comedown I sometimes do.

But with thizzles(pills), I get more energized and can't really sit still of how much joy I'm in(usually contains mdma+something else like speed). Feel like dancing all night and doing some other crazy sh!t.

Everyone is different though, I'd get a test kit to see what I'm really getting though. MDMA+E is one of the more riskier drugs, not knowing what you're taking can be very dangerous.
 
Try adding small amounts of amphetamine to your roll (10mgs, maybe 20 tops). That should get you more active and take away the psychedelic side of MDMA, I love that side though. Do know that amp + MDMA is much more neurotoxic than MDMA alone.


Try smaller doses as well, it sounds like your being overwhelmed by some pure MDMA
 
Instead of adding amps to the mix try caffeine - works really well to avoid that floored feeling you can get from MDMA. Also try taking less of the mdma, its a common mistake that people think you need to take a lot of the drug to get the effects.

Good luck
 
Monks have claimed that the rave, and the mdma experience are very meditative. An alchemical means of nirvana and bliss. They say that the meditative state is optimal and mdma induced state is secondary nirvana.
 
I'f the molly your doing doesn't give you a euphoria or makes you happy then there is a problem. When I get molly it chills me out like you said but i'm also happy and have the best waves of euphoria. I prefer legit pressed MDMA pills anyday over molly that's usually research chemicals. Just my opinion
 
Never drop molly without hitting it with a full battery of reagents... perferably sending it to edata... its so easy for anyone who had it before you to dump a little of almost anything in to fatten up the sack...

But if you get in with the right people you can certainly find pure unadulurated molly that will beat the pants off any pill from a 0.150g
 
Bearlove said:
Instead of adding amps to the mix try caffeine - works really well to avoid that floored feeling you can get from MDMA. Also try taking less of the mdma, its a common mistake that people think you need to take a lot of the drug to get the effects.

Good luck
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I find to avoid the "zen mode" he was talking about, small amounts of amphetamines work the best. Its much more neurotoxic, but even a small dose of like 5-10mg adderall takes like most of the psychedelic feelings of MDMA and replaces them with more of a... hedonistic pleasure


IDK if caffeine really does the same though, I havent added any too a roll other than soda
 
Folley said:
I find to avoid the "zen mode" he was talking about, small amounts of amphetamines work the best. Its much more neurotoxic, but even a small dose of like 5-10mg adderall takes like most of the psychedelic feelings of MDMA and replaces them with more of a... hedonistic pleasure


IDK if caffeine really does the same though, I havent added any too a roll other than soda
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Folley mate I disagree - I would much rather take 20/100mgs of caffeine than any neurotoxic drug if I was going to have the same effect.
 
Well my point is that amphetamine takes away ALL psychedelic effects away from ecstasy, at least for me. Thats what he seems to want to avoid. Caffeine might do this to some extent as well, but I would guess its no where near the same... obviously it is much safer though.
 
Folley said:
Well my point is that amphetamine takes away ALL psychedelic effects away from ecstasy, at least for me. Thats what he seems to want to avoid. Caffeine might do this to some extent as well, but I would guess its no where near the same... obviously it is much safer though.
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What are you talking about? Have you actually taken amphetamine with MDMA before?
 
Quite a bit.


I find empathy and the "flooring" feeling to be almost completely diminished with it. Not to mention most of the love for others is replaced with more of a pleasure seeking mentality... try meditating on the combo, I can guarantee you wont reach a "zen mode". More likely, you wont be able to sit for more than a few minutes
 
Folley said:
Quite a bit.


I find empathy and the "flooring" feeling to be almost completely diminished with it. Not to mention most of the love for others is replaced with more of a pleasure seeking mentality... try meditating on the combo, I can guarantee you wont reach a "zen mode". More likely, you wont be able to sit for more than a few minutes
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I simply do not understand this logic - If by taking amps with your MDMA removes both the Empathy and also the 'Flooring' feeling then why would people take the combination time and time again? I have taken the combination of Amps / MDMA probably a few thousand time before and I can assure you that at times I have reached my understanding of 'zen mode' = complete clarity,everything else is meaningless, there is only me, the music, the drugs. I will/ have / can sit in the same position for hours at a time.
 
Bearlove said:
there is only me, the music, the drugs
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This is what I mean though... there is YOU. With MDMA, its EVERYONE, the music and the drugs. Empathy is not the same as euphoria, empathy is that feeling of love and caring for other. The euphoria is quite notched up on the combo, but the love is, once again, replaced with more of a hedonistic experience.


If you can sit on MDMA + meth, you probably didnt take much amp. Which is a much better IMO. 5mgs of dextro-amphetamine will give you the effects you want, and for most ravers at least, that means dancing all night and not being floored
 
Folley said:
This is what I mean though... there is YOU. With MDMA, its EVERYONE, the music and the drugs. Empathy is not the same as euphoria, empathy is that feeling of love and caring for other. The euphoria is quite notched up on the combo, but the love is, once again, replaced with more of a hedonistic experience.


If you can sit on MDMA + meth, you probably didnt take much amp. Which is a much better IMO. 5mgs of dextro-amphetamine will give you the effects you want, and for most ravers at least, that means dancing all night and not being floored
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You are again saying nothing? If you have read my posts you will already know that speed was my DOC for many a year - I know what taking enough/too much speed means and feels like (and I have experienced the crash / mental breakdown/and ultimately phychosis associated with heavy and prolonged speed use). To say that if your able to sit still on a Speed /MDMA combination = you havent had enough speed is simply misleading. I cannot stress enough that for the people who feel floored by MDMA should simply add caffeine to the mix/reduce the dose before resorting to speed/amps etc.
 
Bearlove said:
You are again saying nothing? If you have read my posts you will already know that speed was my DOC for many a year - I know what taking enough/too much speed means and feels like (and I have experienced the crash / mental breakdown/and ultimately phychosis associated with heavy and prolonged speed use). To say that if your able to sit still on a Speed /MDMA combination = you havent had enough speed is simply misleading. I cannot stress enough that for the people who feel floored by MDMA should simply add caffeine to the mix/reduce the dose before resorting to speed/amps etc.
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I never said that you didnt take ENOUGH amp, I said you didnt take much. Which is how it should be. Like I already said. The many times Ive done speed + MDMA it was already in the pill, or I added a meth bomb to a roll, which would usually lead to higher doses of amp than I would want.


Being floored is one thing, but an introspective/psychedelic trip is the kind of thing I would take low doses of amp with to avoid at a rave.
 
I lived on speed for years - I would replace meals with speed, I would forgo a nights sleep for a line of speed. I would go a week without sleep for a few lines of speed - Breakfast or speed = Speed. Lunch or speed = Speed. Snuggled up in bed with my partner or speed = Speed!

So are you now saying you 'would' actively take a a low dose of amp to avoid an introspective/psy trip at a rave?

Confused :D
 
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