"mollies" and erectile dysfuntion afterwards

[jjjenocide]

My boyfriend and i have been together for 4 years; for all four years we have rolled on and off. We have always had a healthy sexual relationship, never any problems in the bedroom.

We've done both MDMA and XTC, but the last year and a half i'd say we've done strictly mollies. Recently we went on a binge (probably 60 capsules each in a 3 week period) and things have been different.

First of all, we found out that these capsules were not MDMA, but plant fertilizer. The comedown was horrible, and I actually felt physically addicted to the shit. Anyhow, since taking this garbage my boyfriend is experiencing problems in the bedroom. For some reason he can't get hard and if he does it goes soft almost immediately. Personally, I think it's more performance anxiety than anything, but he insists that he's "not right" since taking all those pills.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Thank you all in advance.

 

[Lysis]

He's *never* had this issue before?

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

You're rolling off plant fertilizer?

You realize that "XTC" and "mollies"/"molly" are all slang terms for MDMA, right? You need to know what drug you guys have been taking and did take...and it sounds like you actually have no idea...

Also, what Lysis said.

 

[rakeone]

I just hope for you it's not permanent damage.. I know a guy that cannot get hard anymore cuz of the extasy..2 yr binge tough..

 

[Serotonin101]

How long ago was last use? Stimulant abuse can affect blood pressure for extended periods of time AFTER last use. Is he a smoker? Also check to see if any meds he takes could have side effects such as beta blockers, BP medications, etc (yes even young guys take these meds). Does he still have "drive" and just no erection? Throw in some <insert erectile dysfunction name brand> to attempt to remedy the problem, at least for now, and have him get a physical if possible. Smoking has caused some people to have erectile problems. Also, are you sure he isn't using any other illicit drugs?

 

[CoffeeDrinker]

^My guess is that there's probably a lot of drugs he was willing to try before settling on plant fertilizer.

This is so insanely stupid. You took the plant fertilizer for 3 weeks before noticing it wasn't MDMA? I think his dick problem is something Darwin predicted many moons ago. Be grateful he can't have children now.

Also, how do you feel physically addicted to fertilizer? By feeling like shit afterwards? Isn't that just what you get?

Even if it was real MDMA that you were doing for that 3 week binge that'd still be dumb and costly, but this is just insanity. I can't believe you took 58 capsuls after the first dose didn't do shit for you but fuck you up.

 

[Mel22]

You took the plant fertilizer for 3 weeks before noticing it wasn't MDMA?

Also, how do you feel physically addicted to fertilizer? By feeling like shit afterwards? Isn't that just what you get?

I can't believe you took 58 capsuls after the first dose didn't do shit for you but fuck you up.

I think she's possibly referring to Mephedrone or maybe even MDPV? Either way, I agree with you - absolutely irresponsible drug use. Such large quantities of substances (especially when you don't know what you're taking) is sheer recklessness. What you have consumed is likely a research chemical that has been associated with quite a number of deaths and many cases of serious addiction. This is not intended to be scare-mongering, as all drugs come with associated risks, but taking such chemicals without any idea as to what you're doing is absolutely ridiculous. At the risk of coming across as inflammatory, CoffeeDrinker's Darwinian reference rings true in this instance. Even if it was MDMA, do you have any idea what that would have done to you!? Wow. You and your partner are NOT ready to be taking drugs.

You cannot just indulge as often as you have without consequence. You have both been quite lucky IMO. Do you know what MDMA does to you? Do you know the risks of taking it too frequently? Do you even know how it works?

Please do not think I am being unnecessarily rude. I just genuinely feel that these are things that I would like someone to tell me if I were doing what you guys are. Now, enough of the lecturing, but I implore you to stay far away from all drugs until you are informed and responsible enough to partake without ruining your health and possibly ending your life.

Anyway, as I said - sounds like you guys took Mephedrone or MDPV. Go on erowid.org and check it out and see if the effects fit with your experiences. Mephedrone has been linked to erectile dysfunction and impotence in men, amongst other nasty things - do some reading. I have also seen erectile dysfunction linked to MDPV, but have not personally read any studies attesting to this - they may very well be out there though. Your partner (would be a good idea for you also) should abstain from all drugs immediately, and commit to healthy living - exercise, good sleeping routines and clean diet. A full health check up is also in order. I can't tell you what the likely outcome is, as research chemicals are just that - under research. We only have a very rough idea of what these drugs do to us, and much of that is anecdotal evidence. However, there have been studies linking Meph to impotence etc. and these are what I'm referring to.

Speak to your doctor, and start reading all the information you can get your hands on. Good luck, and hope it's not permanent.

 

[sixburgh]

All I can say is wow. I'm surprised such irresponsible drug use even surprises me anymore but this sure as hell did. Mel22 hit the nail on the head, that's for sure. I really do hope his ED and any other problems you and him might have (unknowingly) are not permanent.

When you treat your life as a joke/game and don't take the time out to contemplate the possible consequences that come along with your decisions, shit like this happens.

 

[lola]

He's going to be fine. 3 pieces of advice:
1. Cut out the insane binges - if people in BL are telling you you're overdoing it, you're SERIOUSLY overdoing it.
2. Stop worrying about it. It's just going to take time for him to feel "right" again and for all the crap to leave your body and head completely.
3. Once you've stopped worrying about it and just engaged in other types of fun that isn't all about erections (e.g. get him to go down on you, do lots of kissing and cuddling), chances are it'll come back without performance anxiety getting in a way. Sounds like he's just in an anxiety loop and needs to be distracted and patient and focus on other things.

 

[lola]

ps yes, I'm pretty sure the OP was referring to Mephedrone or Methylone, they were marketed in the UK as plant fertilisers when they were still a legal high...

 

[rm-rf]

im kind of wondering how it is that you diddnt know it was "plant fertilizer" until the comedown... this makes me think you dont have enough experience and also are more concerned with just getting fucked up on street drugs than being a part of the cognitive liberty movement. if you dont know your mind, body, drug, and source, then you probably arent really capable of figuring answers to these basic questions out on your own, even with help from this forum.

i think you should spend a lot of time in the ecstasy discussion forum, and/or seek medical help.

though, really, just stop doing drugs altogether, exercise well, diet well, eat lots of raw organic vegetables, sleep well. In a few weeks youll likely be fine.

As for ED and E, its kind of situational. Firstly you have to regulate your dose. Too much MDMA and it might get a bit floppy, it can just be overwhelming and overstimulating, plus excessive vasco dialation and constriction from whatever it is your body is doing (dancing, chilling, more dancing, etc). Also diet plays a big role in how your body reacts to taking MD** drugs. I usually just eat organic citris fruits and maybe salad on days i plan on rolling. When I plan on a lengthy sex session on Molly/E pills, first thing is id make sure it was legit shit (get a testing kit). Second thing is id make sure my dose was low, like no more than 100mg every 3-4 hours. Popping like 4 pills, regardless of tolerance, its probably going to make you a plurry pile of goo. Third thing is id make sure it was a very comfy environment where all involved in naked play can concentrate on just that. Its not like you just pop pills and fuck like meth heads. Gotta set the sensuality right.