Captain.Heroin
Bluelight Crew
Did you read the rules/guidelines? Sometimes when members don't know what is expected of them, it can be hard to see what exactly is going wrong.
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RT&DC Moderators: Senior Staff
Mods aren't very helpful anymore.
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Fyasko.
Bluelighter
yeah i completely understand what you mean
i think theres only been a few times when ive noticed that a mod has changed it, and there are like 4 other reports backing up the OP's report.
but i dont use pillreports that often, so maybe it was just those few times that i was on, that i got the idea that a mod was messing with the report. (if that makes sense8))
the mods are helpful, but only the smart ones (like you:D).
And is there a reason why people just get accused of being dealers or having multiple accounts just for posting up some information that is HELPFUL to a report?
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=26488
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http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=26488
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yeah i completely understand what you mean
i think theres only been a few times when ive noticed that a mod has changed it, and there are like 4 other reports backing up the OP's report.
but i dont use pillreports that often, so maybe it was just those few times that i was on, that i got the idea that a mod was messing with the report. (if that makes sense8))
the mods are helpful, but only the smart ones (like you:D).
Honestly all you have to do is if you spot something like this is message me or the mod making the change and we will either add a quick message to the report or take all the other reports into consideration etc.
This was the last report where I changed the suspected contents - its not a dealer report but somebody who was a bit confused when posting.
If I hadnt changed the report then anyone who is viewing the site only from the thumbnails would have seen 2cb and could have rushed out and bought them.
Thanks for your support - I really appreciate some of the comments in this thread (even the negative ones). Its nice to be able to get some of the problems / user issues sorted out.
Yes = Idiots! What more can I say? The report is IMHO a decent report - clearly marked with a warning / unknown substance / unknown rating / nice photo. The OP enjoyed the high and out of all the rubbish pills in that area they would advise people to buy them.
People should have simply have said 'Not MDMA = Not buying them but thank you for bringing it to my attention that these are fakes'
stoneddave
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Bearlove is awesome, always has been; same with RavenousBlonde, I'm sad to see her not participating anymore.
We r1 is fairly knowledgeble but also comes across in a rather "know-it-all" type tone and often is quick to jump to the "PIPES" conclusion. A good mod, but seems to have trouble commenting in a non-condecending way, like Bearlove and Ravenous do.
I'm glad enough complaints were made about Socal's behavior to get him to clean up his act, because he was quite the douche when he first got the mod position. He's been a lot better lately but still isn't near the level of Bear or Ravenous.
We r1 is fairly knowledgeble but also comes across in a rather "know-it-all" type tone and often is quick to jump to the "PIPES" conclusion. A good mod, but seems to have trouble commenting in a non-condecending way, like Bearlove and Ravenous do.
I'm glad enough complaints were made about Socal's behavior to get him to clean up his act, because he was quite the douche when he first got the mod position. He's been a lot better lately but still isn't near the level of Bear or Ravenous.
chitown rollin
Bluelighter
Bearlove and Ravenous have been awesome mods the entire time I've been on PR (since 2006). It is sad to see Ravenous not around the site anymore, I agree. (I had a different user name on PR before).
Hey thank you for your support and kind words - Nice to know I’m doing something right
.RavenousBlonde is a big miss to the site but has a lot of things going on IRL that has to take priority (I’m still hoping that they return to the sites once they have time) .
Socal is a great mod - I know we had a few problems when he first became a moderator and that was simply down to him trying to do too much / reply to too many people. We addressed the matter and he has become a solid member of the crew (and went on to join me in the ED section).
WeR1 is another solid mod - When Ravenousblonde needed to take a step back from the site WeR1 joined me as an administrator on the site and we all would have been struggling without his help. I think the volume of threads that these guys look after really does have an effect on the way that they may come across at times (this certainly isn’t intentional).
Maybe we should bring on another moderator for that section....
shiznik
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Well IMHO it was NOT a decent report... but apparently you get BANNED from pillreports.com now (regardless of what honest contributions you have made) for disagreeing with bearlove. By the way, you just called us "idiots" for disagreeing with you. Isn't that is a form a flaming? Should you get a warning?
What about prov401/provisty who told foxy to shut her mouth and stop being a woman? That is OK?
You keep eating up what these people with ONE POST who joined the site like fucking YESTERDAY are feeding you. Why is it so outrageous to be suspicious of dealers making bad reports on PR? In case you haven't noticed yet, it is a REALITY. I can't believe you are so naive to think that everyone on PR is just this totally honest helpful sensitive person whose reports deserve no scrutiny. Why WOULDN'T dealers be all over PR trying to push their shitty pills. It is business man... you do what you can to get ahead.
PR a website about DRUGS, it isn't fairy tale land. This guy told people to stock up on adulterants and you sided with him and straight scolded us long time knowledgeable users for calling him out. The whole thread was an embarrassment. Now people who make reports with test results are banned and some guy with one report with only anecdotal evidence telling people to buy fake pills can have at it with more garbage.
foxyloxy55
Bluelighter
I think some of the reports need editing. If someone posts a saint and says they are 2c-b, should it not be touched? A lot of reports suggest things like 2c-b, when 2c-b is not a very common adulterant. Some people don't seem to realize how common pipes are in certain areas. Look at ecstasy data, and test results. They are everywhere! Yes people are quick to call pipes, but people are equally quick to dismiss pipes as well.
I am weary of any report that says "stock up on these" regardless of contents: MDMA, meth, pipes whatever. When I do a report, I post the test results and talk about my experience. I don't care if you buy 10, 100, or none at all. I know this is an unpopular opinion right now on PR with some, but for me it comes down to sharing information vs. pushing pills. Most people don't put that in their reports, and I have seen this pointed out in plenty of the ones who have.
Also, when you see a user who just joined today posting in the same thread with a similar name, is it not natural to assume they are the same person? I agree that the thread did get out of hand to some extent, but I also think that the mods severely sided with the new guys just because they got so scared that they were turning people off. I think the "punishment" given out was unfair. I got a warning for quoting a line from a funny movie to someone who's user name was from that very same movie. On the other hand, I got called pathetic and told to stop being a woman, I got called a jobless loser and told to go home to my mommy, among other things (none of which bother me, I know I am none of those things) and both of those users are still around while other users are not. Pills are so bad in the northeast right now, it is very reasonable for people to be suspicious of false reports. The report you're talking about does claim they are not MDMA, and I said I appreciated that in my first post, but he also says they are a good roll (the best he's ever had, so better than MDMA) and to stock up, and I'm sorry, but I can't agree that this is a good thing.
I am honestly not trying to start shit here. I love pill reports, and think I am pretty knowledgeable about pill testing and ecstasy in general, but now I am afraid to express my opinion because I feel like if it differs from the report, it could be considered flaming or trolling now, even though I don't believe I have ever resorted to name calling.
I am weary of any report that says "stock up on these" regardless of contents: MDMA, meth, pipes whatever. When I do a report, I post the test results and talk about my experience. I don't care if you buy 10, 100, or none at all. I know this is an unpopular opinion right now on PR with some, but for me it comes down to sharing information vs. pushing pills. Most people don't put that in their reports, and I have seen this pointed out in plenty of the ones who have.
Also, when you see a user who just joined today posting in the same thread with a similar name, is it not natural to assume they are the same person? I agree that the thread did get out of hand to some extent, but I also think that the mods severely sided with the new guys just because they got so scared that they were turning people off. I think the "punishment" given out was unfair. I got a warning for quoting a line from a funny movie to someone who's user name was from that very same movie. On the other hand, I got called pathetic and told to stop being a woman, I got called a jobless loser and told to go home to my mommy, among other things (none of which bother me, I know I am none of those things) and both of those users are still around while other users are not. Pills are so bad in the northeast right now, it is very reasonable for people to be suspicious of false reports. The report you're talking about does claim they are not MDMA, and I said I appreciated that in my first post, but he also says they are a good roll (the best he's ever had, so better than MDMA) and to stock up, and I'm sorry, but I can't agree that this is a good thing.
I am honestly not trying to start shit here. I love pill reports, and think I am pretty knowledgeable about pill testing and ecstasy in general, but now I am afraid to express my opinion because I feel like if it differs from the report, it could be considered flaming or trolling now, even though I don't believe I have ever resorted to name calling.
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Firstly DO NOT use offense language when your talking to me – there is simply no need.
You do not get banned from Pillreports for simply disagreeing with me - I have always encouraged open discussion and I have made several threads on here simply for that reason. What you do get banned for (I presume were talking about the AK47thread) – is ignoring my warnings about abuse and going on to flame the OP. The two people that I banned from that thread first received a warning from me in their last post; they ignored them / deleted them and went on to leave abusive messages.
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Posted on June 26, 2011, 3:06 am by **********
you are a fucking LIAR and it must feel awesome to know that someone on this site knows exactly what the fuck you are. Save us your pathetic lie ass reports. You're a fucking joke who knows NOTHING about MDMA.
Simply have no place on the site.
I am far from Naive, I have spent long enough in the game and working on the site to know that dealers do anything to push adulterated pills (and that is why we [pillreports] advise everyone to buy a kit, use the site as a point of reference only).
Now I will for the last time go over my thoughts on that report –
The OP reported an adulterated pill, they made no claims it was MDMA, they explained in the report that there was ZERO MDMA in the pill. The then went on to explain in the comments (before everyone started to rip them a new one) that this wasn’t a real pill – it had no MDMA inside and out of all the rubbish / adulterated pills in the area they enjoyed this one. I agree with you (and messaged the OP regarding this) that telling somebody to ‘stock up’ on a fake pill only raises alarm bells.
Everyone should be suspicious about every report that goes up on the site (I have never said anything other) BUT when somebody makes a report on a fake pill and leaves a warning up that the pill is FAKE then all that needs to be said is thanks for the warning. We have people using the site that like meth, we have people using the site that like pipes – l personally would prefer them all to make a report and let US ALL KNOW THAT ITS NOT ECSTASY AND ADD A WARNING!
It is in everyone’s interest that people report FAKE PILLS and add a warning (I don’t care if they enjoy them or not as long as the report carries a warning that they are fake).
To discourage people reporting fake /adulterated pills on the site by attacking them is ridiculous.
Foxy is a long term user of the site – they can see past childish jibes on the site, if however they were offended by the comment they could simply PM me about it and I would deal with it.
NOBODY reported this thread to me – before I posted only four people actually bothered to rate it, if people were honestly that concerned then I would have been advised about it the day it showed up – the fact that users took it into their own hands and turned the report into a joke is out of my hands.
shiznik
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You did not warn me. You sent me a friendly message trying to clear up my view of your position on the report, and it said nothing about a warning. You then went on to ban me though I too had been a long time, trusted contributor. A quality that I feel should have earned me a little more leeway in this situation.
Before this you were by far my favorite moderator, but the bearlove I had come to know on PR would never have let people tell others to stock up on and consume pills they have not tested and have no idea the contents of. It is one thing to tell people to stock up on and take MDMA (or as you claim, meth) and potentially be lying, but unknown contents?
You say you are far from naive (fair enough), but in my opinion (I am trying not to be offensive so please do not ban me) your insistence to trust the shady ones with usernames containing matching words who write with an identical dialect with a join date of the day the report was made with no comments on other reports suggests otherwise. Like I said, I think that you are too honest and trustworthy of a person to see that report for what it really is.
I suppose I am going to have to let this topic die no matter how much of an injustice I feel that it is. Like discussing politics, no amount of passion (or aggression) is going to make you see it my way. It just makes ever posting any reports, photographing the test results, and sending the pills in to edata feel like a waste of time and money.
I am sorry for using offensive language and will adopt a more respectful tone forthwith.
Before this you were by far my favorite moderator, but the bearlove I had come to know on PR would never have let people tell others to stock up on and consume pills they have not tested and have no idea the contents of. It is one thing to tell people to stock up on and take MDMA (or as you claim, meth) and potentially be lying, but unknown contents?
You say you are far from naive (fair enough), but in my opinion (I am trying not to be offensive so please do not ban me) your insistence to trust the shady ones with usernames containing matching words who write with an identical dialect with a join date of the day the report was made with no comments on other reports suggests otherwise. Like I said, I think that you are too honest and trustworthy of a person to see that report for what it really is.
I suppose I am going to have to let this topic die no matter how much of an injustice I feel that it is. Like discussing politics, no amount of passion (or aggression) is going to make you see it my way. It just makes ever posting any reports, photographing the test results, and sending the pills in to edata feel like a waste of time and money.
I am sorry for using offensive language and will adopt a more respectful tone forthwith.
the toad
Bluelighter
There were two people banned on that report - one for leaving the above message so that leaves user - costello1028.
Eveyrone on that page received a warning - I edited one of your posts, removing your message and left you a warning telling you to stop with flaming / trolling messages.
You deleted my message and left another message that only served to add fuel to the fire - you were banned.
My comments on that thread were certainly not influenced by any new member who just joined to make a comment. If you had just taken the time to read my comments in the post you would have seen that I was simply explaining why somebody 'could' use the term stock up on a fake pill.
You seem to think that just because one person says stock up that means that the readers of the site are going to ignore the warning / ignore the unknown contents and rush out and buy them.
The report is on fake pills (That Much we agree on?)
It could be made by a genuine user who happened to enjoy the pills, it could be made by a dealer making a completely false report, lying about the results simply trying to create a hype to make them sell pills. Do you honestly not think I can’t see that?
I added several warnings to the report both in the comments and to the report itself. Nobody else in the thread had tried these pills - they were untested and the entire argument (100 posts) was based on the use of the words 'stock up'.
Long term members of the site should have rated the report, reported it and left a simple message WARNING - these are not MDMA, some people can enjoy piperzine pills but the majority of people have nasty side effects etc.
There is a new report about these pills now on the site, reported as MDxx - MDxx Medium - No warning! Now because we allowed the first report on the site we now know that there is something wrong with the pills and we can advise other people - IF the first report wasnt allowed we would be non the wiser.
Lets just say for arguments sake that the OP was new to the site - new to drugs - they dont know MDMA from their elbow, they didn't think it was MDMA but were not sure. Do you think that they deserve to be pulled to bits and left abusive messages by members of the site?
I'm sorry that you do not agree with my actions on that thread - the problem was blown out of all proportions and everyone was taking whatever I said out of context.
As you still think that the words 'stock up' could encourage people to ignore the warnings on the report etc I will simply edit the report - (which I asked the OP to do anyway). Editing the report was never a problem - nobody asked. Everyone thought it was easier to attack the poster and when I tried to explain the frustration was taken out on me.
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I have discussed this via PM and have the matter sorted in a way that suits us all - That thread was a nightmare from start to finish, lots of people (myself included) were very frustrated and our tempers/passion got the better of us.
The one thing we should take from this - dont flame in the reports, PLEASE message me either on PR or on here and I will sort it out.
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Monkeybizness
Bluelighter
yes i have had this issue with pill reports lately the mods(the new mods) DO NOT PROPERLY READ THE REPORTS . they deleted mines several time for no reason(and then apologized after i complained ) oh and my old account MAGICALLY got deleted along with all my old reports and comments WTF !(kills my credibility) i had to make a new account ... they deleted my report do to mixing pills when i clearly stated in my report that i didnt! also they bleeped out the name of the pill deadmu5 because it is a djs name BUT thats what the pill is being called.. there are reports up right now in the south east that the user clearly states he mixed pill and it still hasn't been deleted ! btw also this should be done regardless !! if their is a problem with the report they should let us know so we can fix it , they just delete it and dont give you a reason as to why ? i find that pretty rude ! they should send a mess stating WHY the report got deleted ...
bearlove you rule tho !
my fav mod was liquidinsanity but hes long gone
bearlove your a great mod but some others are not to great
im glad this is being discussed because someone is slacking
bearlove you rule tho !
my fav mod was liquidinsanity but hes long gone
bearlove your a great mod but some others are not to great
im glad this is being discussed because someone is slacking
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Monkeybizness
Bluelighter
let me not get started YOU are the first to call out pipe !
i use the term stock up their is nothing wrong with it .. im not trying to push pills im not a dealer when the pills are good you should stock up .
you jump into conclusions way to fast you've bashed on ppls reports ..because you flamed one of mines
i have never EVER bashed on anyones report if i haven't tried them i dont even comment i just check it out or give some insight on what else is going around i dont just call out PIPE !!
there has been very little plur around pr lately i think its the lack of E and all the pipes
here are some example of the lack of plur on pr
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=26230
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=26191
good ol shit talking
mixed reports
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=26552
this report is just taking up space
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=26553
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Juice.
Bluelighter
I think pillreports is fucking awesome, bearlove and ocbudsmoker are great mods. No complaints here, keep up the good work.
foxyloxy55
Bluelighter
let me not get started YOU are the first to call out pipe !
i use the term stock up their is nothing wrong with it .. im not trying to push pills im not a dealer when the pills are good you should stock up .
you jump into conclusions way to fast you've bashed on ppls reports ..because you flamed one of mines
i have never EVER bashed on anyones report if i haven't tried them i dont even comment i just check it out or give some insight on what else is going around i dont just call out PIPE !!
there has been very little plur around pr lately i think its the lack of E and all the pipes
here are some example of the lack of plur on pr
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=26230
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=26191
good ol shit talking
mixed reports
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=26552
this report is just taking up space
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=26553
You misunderstood. I didn't say your pills were pipes. I said they could be pipes (and actually, I said a possible combo, I believed you when you said MDMA) and your guess was as good as mine, since there were no test results. With all the adulterated pills out there, I don't trust anyone, just the test results. Don't take it personally. I swear I'm not an asshole in real life.
I was very happy to see test results for your dinos. More clean pills is all I care about. I am always happy to eat my words when I am wrong. Without the tests, its all just speculation. I do agree that people are pretty untrustworthy, but with so many adulterated pills, bad reports, and people who just dong have a clue about MDMA, can you blame everyone? "The scene" is in kind of a sad state right now and its hard to fix.
And you say you never "bashed" a report but isn't telling someone their report is terrible bashing? This is obviously a subject we're all very passionate about and it can be easy to get riled up unnecessarily.
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Monkeybizness
Bluelighter
i only say its terrible if it really is terrible lol... like the one i posted above ..now that is a shitty report !!! i think everyone is being a bit to quick to judge a SOLID REPORT is a soild report weather it is a consumed report with no test results , and nowadays that chemists are coming up with ways to trick test kits i think a consumed report is just as good a tested one ...if its tested and consumed even better .You misunderstood. I didn't say your pills were pipes. I said they could be pipes (and actually, I said a possible combo, I believed you when you said MDMA) and your guess was as good as mine, since there were no test results. With all the adulterated pills out there, I don't trust anyone, just the test results. Don't take it personally. I swear I'm not an asshole in real life.
I do agree that people are pretty untrustworthy, but with so many adulterated pills, bad reports, and people who just dong have a clue about MDMA, can you blame everyone? "The scene" is in kind of a sad state right now and its hard to fix.
And you say you never "bashed" a report but isn't telling someone their report is terrible bashing? This is obviously a subject we're all very passionate about and it can be easy to get riled up unnecessarily. i
Why didnt you contact me?
Your user account can not disapear(Only our tech guy could do it!) You could be banned if deemed to be making false reports etc (Im not saying you were - just saying how these things happen).
What was your old user name and I will look into this (as I would like to have these problems sorted out and get some PLUR back into the threads).
Dont forget the mods are human - we often log onto the site a bit worse for wear and mistakes do happen
o ) but there really shouldnt be that many reports being removed in error. I cant speak for any of the other mods but I always try and message the User telling them why I have removed their report (mixed pills, etc) and I will leave a message in the mod section to try and get all other mods into this habit.
I have just checked our mod thread where we keep a record of all deleted reports and I can see yours removed a few times in a row
Name: Dino
State/Province: Miami
Logo: raptor
The mod who removed this has left a message stating why they removed the report one of them is mixed pills (When its clearly not) and another strange message that I cant figure out. Im really sorry about that, you can always message the mod you know - message them on here before making a new report just to save any problems.
The Deadmau thing is funny - we dont actually **** out the words its a filter that is set on the system. It should be fixed now :D
Were looking for a new mod (or two) for the US section to replace Ocbudsmker - Im hoping that once we get a few extra pairs of eyes on the reports the mods can take a bit more time when reading the reports etc.
In the meantime though - IF you have a problem let me know about it as soon as possible. Even if you have a problem with a mod then report it to me via Private Message - I can assure you that there would be no comeback / backlash to you on the site.
Hope that explains some of your concerns