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MK-801 - first few experiences - All systems go

(+)MK 801 is known as Dizocilpine
Its formula is C16H15N
You can see its structure here
It would probably be orally active.
 
(No sources, sorry dude, just saving your ass ;) ) - IM vs oral didn't seem to make any difference. it MIGHT be good combined with something else - i can see the potential there. for the most part, it seems to be a VERY powerful psi amplifier with almost no recreational potential. frankly, i don't think it's dangerous in terms of neurotoxicity. whatever. good luck

for some reason, my computer refuses to allow me to copy and paste from this page, thus i cannot assemble a trip report for erowid. someone, please do so - i'd rather my time and money and possibly brain cells not have been TOTALLY wasted. peace
 
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another MK-801 trip

i can't really give details on doses with this, cause frankly i don't remember. i was in a VERY bad space, and i was just shooting K im one time after another, for like hours, and when i ran out of K, i switched to mk-801. VERY weird - i has some totally realistic hallucination - like closing my eyes but still seeing something totally else - but something normal, like another room some where else. also, shit would MOVE - like i'd look at a statue, and it would walk around. TOTALLY realistic. also some lost time - somehow i stayed up all night and didn't notice it.

this drug is one of the most powerful psi enhancers in existance, and also one of the most dangerous drugs period. BUT i have to say that this time it was kinda fun. your milage may vary.
 
Thanks for reporting again on this very rare chem. If you feel like, it I'd be interested in more details about the experience.
 
Sounds interesting... "psi enhancer" huh.. What kind of experiments can u detail on that? Or anyone else?

Speaking of anyone else, any other reports on this substance would be really appreciated! As always!
 
pushing back the boundaries...

much apreciation for taking the time out to type this,there is so little information about this,your a very brave man and id like to thankyou for your service to the community.
 
Interesting thread. But it sounds too scary to try without some motivation. I'll do MK-801 and post a trip report for money. Anybody willing to sponsor a psychonautical voyage? j/k
 
my girlfreind claims that taking dxm gave her the feeling much as you reported, the senseless psi enhancement effect.....

the few times that I have sensed pschic phenomenea might be a cause for a certian event was under rather mild doses of dxm.

one time I asked DR Lilly a question under the influence of dxm....and one word popped into my head...equanimity....I didnt even know what the word meant...I looked it up and understood the implication.

who knows...perhaps old ghosts of old psychonaughts like the heads of young psychonaughts?

ha ha.

I am glad to hear the report on this substance. I havnt been able to source reputable pcp before, and doubt that I would ever try MK -801...so it looks like my dissacotiative days are numbered.
 
Hey tantric, I can compile this and submit it to Erowid, and also get it published rapidly. Would you like that? It's definitely not published there yet, but I don't know if you submitted it or not. In fact I stumbled upon this thread looking for this experience report originally on Erowid, since I remembered reading about the starnge telepathy effects before.
 
Blowmonkey said:
Ah, damnit, my "translated" version got pruned..

Well waddaya-fucking-know.. Just thought I'd run a search on my computer to see if I had still saved the word file somewhere, and thankfully I did. This time I'll just post it right here in this thread. It's a compilation of the five posts made by tantric, in chronological order IIRC, with the added harm reduction elements. Enjoy.

mk-801 trip report, all systems go

200ml=10mg
20ml=1mg
2ml=100µg
1ml=50µg

The first shot of 50µg IM had little effect, some tinnitus.. I lay down and experienced a definite slowing of the heart, part of K-programming. Some slow strobing OEV visual effects and also CEV, onset in about 25min. Got aroused and took care of it.. ;-) Orgasm is prolonged, unlike DXM which is counterorgastic. Ate some stuff afterwards.. Time dilation, visually like a heavy DXM trip. All effects seemed to be non-existant after about an hour and a half, took some Ambien and went to sleep.

On the second try I IM'ed 100µg. This is still not developing into much. I thought of injecting another another 100µg and so I did. "Okay, that's enough for the next four hours or so.." For the most part it just seems very hypnotic - I'm swaying with the music, feeling very light weighted. Typing is difficult. I believe I could stare at the sky and not see the clouds. Will keep you all posted..

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..Mk-801 is VERY wicked.. I could only describe this as the "evil zombie effect" - my body keeps going but the brain isn't there. There are some "holes" in my memory in the last 24hrs.. I woke up after almost no sleep and went shopping, wrote a list on my hand and now I can't read it, just nonsense.. I later did a 400µg dose (IM'ed)- did it do anything..? Or do I just not remember anything from it? I watched a dvd, and couldn't remember if I've ever seen it before. I do NOT like this experience. It's creepy, like jacob's ladder creepy.. I'm looking at the liquid and am seriously considering pouring it out.. I mean, the initial effect was somewhat euphoric, but people with lobotomies are often happy as well..

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..Something for the skeptics.. Here's a bit I didn't get to mention. When trying to sleep, the ear-ringing became particularly annoying. Unlike other such experiences, it's not "random", so it was impossible to tune out. In fact, when you focus on it, there are voices. I've had this type of experience before, but the mk-801 version is quite different. For one, the voices have accents, tones and patterns that are clearly not mine.. They all seem to be in English, but then again, I'm tuning out what I don't understand, so I'm not sure what that's worth. Furthermore, the different voices seem to talk about different things, yet all of them are mostly meaningless. Some resemble radio like comentary, some are just repetitive mindless subvocalizations, like people talking to themselves.. At one point, the sounds seemed to have some visual component to them, but it was very fuzzy and indistinct, more like an idea than a picture. Let me add that this was 100% dysphoric. On the other hand, when I've had this type of experience before on other drugs, the voices were all male and accentless. I actually associate the "radio in the head" bit with LSD and I never considered it anything but a hallucination - when you've had too much and you want it to stop, in your bedroom in the dark, etc.. This, however, seemed VERY MUCH like telepathy. The ketamine telepathy experience is totally different - it's like being in love so much you just think the same things. The mk-801 is like having a television going in the next room without visuals, so the dialogue doesn't make sense.. I have pet mice which I communicate with in Ketamine trips - I can at times switch into mouse point-of-view, feel the mouse's mind, and urge my little friend to do this or to do that, and watch it happen.. There is a very strong feeling of love with this - the mouse is my friend, I protect her, love her and vice versa (her name is Flora :-)).. Somehow Ketamine increases our bond. DXM psychic experiences however, are always VERY weird and surreal. The only quasi-telepathic experience I've really had, had to do with information transfer between two people both on low doses. I was trying to teach a friend chemistry, and the info was just flooding from mind to mind, like the rest of the world was not there. In a few hours' time, he grokked a huge amount of chemistry, that had taken me months to learn. It was odd and overwhelming, but GOOD - there's no way this could happen with a stranger. The mk-801 was like a horror novel phone call from hell.. It was MUCH more distinct and powerful than the pseudo-psi effects of K or DXM, but it was also very WRONG. Ever had the phone ringing and you pick it up and there's no one there, but you listen and listen and there's this whispering and then you slam down the phone..? - well, imagine that was a radio in your room you couldn't turn it off or get away from. That's what it was like.

In anycase, I'd like to say that mk-801 is definitely NOT recreational. On the other hand, if you want a "shamanic power drug", go for it.. Have a trip sitter. Be aware of the fact that the effects last a LONG time. Start at 50ug (or lower, NEVER higher) and work your way up. Do NOT double-dose - once per day, period! I really don't think low doses are neurotoxic - in rats, this effect is at 2mg/kg, which would be a HUGE amount in a 70kg primate. I don't really understand how that could work, perhaps it actually causes prolonged unconciousness, I'm not sure..

Also, Im'ing is not necessary - 200µg sublingual or even oral is almost instantly noticeable, and as far as I can tell, just as potent.. 400µg IM seemed way beyond useful. Be aware that there is memory impairment, and significant mental impairment, kinda like valium - it just makes you "dumb". It MIGHT be good combined with something else - I can see the potential there. But for the most part, it seems to be a VERY powerful psi amplifier with almost no recreational value. Also, even the tiniest amount of mk-801 doesn't dissolve very well - there is still visible particulate matter, which might be dust or might be not.. It was dissolved using distilled water, there shouldn't be any impurities, but there are. Shake well!

I'm done with this compound.. I did try a 200µg sublingual dose, but all I really did was zone out and stare, with a strange heavy feeling in the chest. I'm writing this report under the effect (forgive me for being scatterbrained), but this time I'm aware of the mental impairment and being more careful about typos, at least I hope. I plan on taking ambien to sleep - there is evidence that benzo's reduce the NAN effect.

The whole purpose of this was that I can't really afford ketamine.. With mk-801 (+), maybe 1mg costs the same as 200mg of Ketamine. I had hoped that maybe 500ug would be an experience, but I'm just not going to go there. Geez, my head is still ringing, weird not rightness!

peace
 
Submitted to Erowid under the name Tantric. If Tantric doesn't want his name used, I can have that name changed. But I wanted to give credit to whom credit is due :)

I used Blowmonkey's pruned/combined version.
 
MK801 is yet another compound which has PEA in its structure. It seems like nearly every drug has PEA buried in it somewhere. I wonder what happens to this structure if one were to N-methylate it.
 
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