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And yet again, I agree, I think we have more than enough experience with weed to be able to tell that smoking pure J`s with the weed we smoke all day long can`t be good for you. Not saying that I smoke all day long, but I smoke at least a few days in the week, and I`d rather smoke some with tobacco than pure. And most weed from the coffeeshops is not that strong(depends on the shop), and buying from dealers is usually better weed for a better price.
 
Well, actually I did smoke a couple of pure Js out in Amsterdam last time - coughed a bit but nothing like taking a pure bong hit! I guess it's something to do with smoking technique, as well.

And yeah, I should cut down on all carcinogens - but unfortunately I also smoke cigarettes. And basically - for me tobacco and weed go together. I know a lot of Americans will be disgusted by this but I grew up smoking hash and it has just always been this way for me.

I hate the idea of burning money so quickly in my hand when I'm not hitting the joint, having trichomes fall into the filter, stuff like that. I like to have lots of material in the joint - only part of it actually expensive and precious - and I like to smoke big fat joints that I can toke slowly and not worry about all the sidestream smoke while I'm relaxing =D

--- G.

p.s. the doctors told me my lung would grow back partially - not sure what kind of weirdness that is supposed to be or if they just left the anasthesia gas on for too long while hanging out after the operation - but I never got it checked to see how it developed
 
I can get more stoned by smoking J`s than I can with smoking a bong, ok, maybe not completely true, but I can get a better kind of stoned with J`s.
 
^^ sounds like a plan =D i'm was just joking around anyways. [edit: this whole post is supposed to be right after blow moneky's last post ]


I really see this as a harm prevention issue, and that's why I started this thread. I don't really care what anybody does but i'm still gonna encourage you to not smoke tobacco. My comments are mostly aimed at cannbis users who do not use tobacco aside from in conjuntion with cannabis.

If you are also a nicotine addict then cutting out nicotine from your cannabis smoke isn't as big of a health priority as cutting out pure tobacco smoke... in fact i recommend using tobacco with cannabis to wean you off cigarettes hehe not sure how good this advice is but i managed to stop cigs... but probably smoke cannabis now as often as i was smoking cigs plus how often i was smoking pot 8o .. this wasnt true when i first quit though, just now that i have the opportunity i do smoke more
 
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Tell you what - if I ever have enough of a steady supply of weed to roll pure blunts and joints - I will make a very serious effort to stop smoking cigarettes AND stop putting it in with my weed! I'll start a journal on it - lol :)

Anyway, I agree tobacco is a vastly inferior herb - when you think about it any sane person would choose weed over ciggies and would be better off =D

--- G.
 
I am one of those users, I do not smoke, but I do smoke weed, and tobacco in joints. But I am not addicted to tobacco, and no, I`m not just saying that, I smoked for a few weeks, stopped, started smoking more J`s, went back to normal, and I don`t get that feeling that I have to smoke something(although sometimes i do, but not frequently). I just like smoking J`s too much, it`s my one and only sin, asides from premarrital sex, drugs, alcohol and just allround nasty ideas
 
I would choose weed over ciggies any day, and when a good substitute for tobacco has been found, I`ll be glad to give it up, but for now I`ll stick with my nice weed/tobacco joints.
 
Morrison's Lament said:
Well, actually I did smoke a couple of pure Js out in Amsterdam last time - coughed a bit but nothing like taking a pure bong hit! I guess it's something to do with smoking technique, as well.

I hate the idea of burning money so quickly in my hand when I'm not hitting the joint, having trichomes fall into the filter, stuff like that. I like to have lots of material in the joint - only part of it actually expensive and precious - and I like to smoke big fat joints that I can toke slowly and not worry about all the sidestream smoke while I'm relaxing =D
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i suppose i'm just used to coughing after every bong rip just like you're used to tobacco :D .. you learn to handle it.. in fact i like the feeling of being all red faced if it was a good rip.. it sucks if you get all redfaced cause it went down wrong. seriously though i think if i hit a spun bowl it woudl make me hack a lot more than dank would


and pot should be legal!! then this whole money thing wouldnt be an issue :).. i guess if you smoke cigs and you like joints, mixing makes some sense, but in a perfect world where weed costs as much as tobacco, everyone would smoke joints like cigs.. it's very relaxing to just smoke a joint and not trip about getting every last drop. I usually roll joints from shake which doesnt taste as good in a bong
 
GrOwThSpUrT said:
I would choose weed over ciggies any day, and when a good substitute for tobacco has been found, I`ll be glad to give it up, but for now I`ll stick with my nice weed/tobacco joints.
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there are millions of plants.. surely one would be better! why not just use oregano or some inert carrier? the only reason i can see is one likes the nicotine high with the cannabis high. it surely couldnt be taste :p =D (we need a sticking tounge out smiley that isnt rasberrying)
 
i have no idea why poeple spin their precious weed with impurities. (salvia excepted)
unless you are a tabacco smoker, it does you more harm than good.

1. increasing the amount of carcinogens in your smoke.
2. increasing your risk to tobacco addiction
3. puts a disgusting taste to your fruity tasting herb.
4. you end up smoking more cones in a sesh because of the lesser amount of weed in your hit.

The myth that it stretches out you weed is nonsense. your smoking the exact amount as poeple who smoke it pure.
I have a freinds that spin their weed, they have about 3 -4 billys in a sesh.
I dont spin my weed thankfully, i have been smoking for about 2 years now, and i have 1 or if im feeling cheeky i have 2 billys in my sesh. Usually 1 sesh a day.

If only they woud come to their senses.
You cannot be stoned unless you have a PURE GREEN billy. None of this tobacco shit. keep it green, keep it pure.
hehe, so who disagree's?
 
I've been smoking for 4 years, and in that time I can say that I probably smoked maby 2-3 full cigs worth of tobacco. I figuer that if I'm going to be smoking, why double the amount of harmful toxins entering my body. I dont like the taste of tobacco, and becuase I'm not a cig smoker I tend to cough more off joints and bowls mixed with t-bac. I also dont like the "fake high" that t-bac gives when mixed with weed. You get that quick rush and head buzz making you think your high, but in reality this is just a temporary feeling lasting a couple of minutes, with a less high feeling afterwards. Its true that t-bac makes your weed last longer, but it also makes your weed burn quicker too. I have actually passed around 2 blunts, 1 t-bac filled(for my mixer friends), and the other pure(for me and my much smaller group of pure smoker friends). The pure blunt was still being cyphered way after the mixed blunt expired. For bong smoking I wouldnt have it any other way than pure. I take huge hits, and mixed bowls give me way too much of a head rush , I START TO GET THE SWEATS , SHAKE AND TURN PALE, NOT A GOOD FEELING! Oh yeah I live in Monteral Quebec, and we got some crazy weed here, tons of frosted hydo being sold especially in the winter, and I will still smoke a 2-3 gram blunt pure anyday-----. with energy left over to smoke a bowl!!!!%)
 
greenliving said:
I take huge hits, and mixed bowls give me way too much of a head rush , I START TO GET THE SWEATS , SHAKE AND TURN PALE, NOT A GOOD FEELING!
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haha yeah happens to me aswell, i hate that feeling. 8( 8(
 
greenliving said:
I have actually passed around 2 blunts, 1 t-bac filled(for my mixer friends), and the other pure(for me and my much smaller group of pure smoker friends).
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you do know your 'pure blunt' still has plenty of tobacco and nicotine in the cigar wrap, right?
 
The myth that it stretches out you weed is nonsense. your smoking the exact amount as poeple who smoke it pure.
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yeah, while your aiming for the same high, it DOES stretch out your weed. if i roll a pure joint, i have to put it in the ashtray, to let it die, because i am high enough as it is. a tobacco+weed joint however, is exactly the right amount of weed and tobacco if you know what you have to throw in, what i do. now i can't roll my pure joints everywhere because i'm not always near an ashtray to let it go out. the tobacco weed joints are always smoked in one session. now i don't want to smoke a pure joint in one session, because i will get too high. so in a way, it stretches out your supply.

(we need a sticking tounge out smiley that isnt rasberrying)
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i agree, these smilies are misleading!! sorry for the mixup frizz, i thought you were saying (because of that smilie:)) that we didn't know how to smoke and get high, haha, jeez, i take things the whole wrong way when i'm baked, i always do that...=D
 
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ah i forgot to mention that the word "billy" in australian stoner jargon means bong.

If you spin your weed with tobacco, smoke it through a bong, its no different than putting none in. If you think that you are stretching out your weed, you are mistaken.
:\ ;)
 
Blowmonkey said:
now i can't roll my pure joints everywhere because i'm not always near an ashtray to let it go out.
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you could just stub it out on a rock or the sidewalk or your shoe :)
 
I'm from Australia, and for some reason pretty much every smoker spins their weed with baccy. The main reason would to make the mix last longer, but ofcourse you are smoking less weed per cone/bowl/joint/whatever. I also think alot of people smoke with tobacco as it seems alot cooler going down your throat/lungs. So here, where you are expected to rip down a bongload in one go and then pack for the next person and pass on, it's alot easier to do so.

I only spin hydroponic weed, I find that I do cough sometimes when I take a straight green hit, just because the heat is too much and it's what I'm used to smoking. However, I used to be the opposite. I would smoke down a full cone of the harshest hydro where everyone else around me would die from choking, but if I smoked a spun mix, I would cough and feel instantly nauseaus, and not feel like smoking anymore after that.

But yes, tobacco definately makes weed taste like utter shit. Weed is fucking sweet and yummy, with tobacco it's like eating an ashtray. Also, euro's and aussies don't sdpin coz their weed is wet. It'd be the same wetness as american hydro.. sticky as fuck, but not wet as such. I never really have a problem with burning it alone.. but ofcourse It goes down quicker with baccy.
 
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lol its hard for me as a greeny to smoke with my mates that smoke spun, because its expected to punch the cone down and not to fuck the rotation lol, but its difficult for me because i dont aim to punch usually, so id be sitting there copping heaps of abuse from them cause i was holding everyone up lol.

Would pure ganja be a more dense smoke than say spun?

Because if it is, that may be why i have trouble punching my green billies.
I have heaps of trouble toking spun brew aswell, let alone punching them.
So i dont know if it has anything to do with the density of the smoke or some other factor? :\
 
I smoke cigs after smoking Marijuana. It gives me a nasty nicotine feeling... But at the same time.. It cools me down... Make's me feel weightless... Just my opinion! ^_^
 
juxtonas said:
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lol its hard for me as a greeny to smoke with my mates that smoke spun, because its expected to punch the cone down and not to fuck the rotation lol, but its difficult for me because i dont aim to punch usually, so id be sitting there copping heaps of abuse from them cause i was holding everyone up lol.

Would pure ganja be a more dense smoke than say spun?

Because if it is, that may be why i have trouble punching my green billies.
I have heaps of trouble toking spun brew aswell, let alone punching them.
So i dont know if it has anything to do with the density of the smoke or some other factor? :\
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just pack smaller bowls.. like only pack the same amout of pot you'd use if you mixed with tobacco, but leave the tobacco out

i recall when i was younger it was like a contest to see who could smoke the biggest bowl, but it doesnt really matter as long as you get stoned you know :)
 
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