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Kratom MITRAGYNINE PSEUDOINDOXYL

Dr. Morphine

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Any experiences with mitragynine pseudoindoxyl? What are the effects of consuming this? I know 7-OH was recently banned in some states, but apparently the mitragynine pseudoindoxyl hasn't been banned to my knowledge. I wonder why that is and how this is different in its effects from other Kratom derived products. Any information?
 
Basically the same as 7-oh, possibly slightly stronger or more sedating. I found it enjoyable but maybe less euphoric than 7.
 
Any experiences with mitragynine pseudoindoxyl? What are the effects of consuming this? I know 7-OH was recently banned in some states, but apparently the mitragynine pseudoindoxyl hasn't been banned to my knowledge. I wonder why that is and how this is different in its effects from other Kratom derived products. Any information?

Pseudo
What it is: after 7oh goes into the blood it slowly turns into pseudo. Pseudo is a metabolite of 7oh

Reason not banned: likely ignorance on behalf of lawmakers and/or predation of the laws made to the widespread sale of pseudo

Difference in effects: lack of warmth typical of opiates. Considered very sedating and pain relieving. Absolutely the most brutal withdrawals of any kratom type product.
 
Pseudo
What it is: after 7oh goes into the blood it slowly turns into pseudo. Pseudo is a metabolite of 7oh

Reason not banned: likely ignorance on behalf of lawmakers and/or predation of the laws made to the widespread sale of pseudo

Difference in effects: lack of warmth typical of opiates. Considered very sedating and pain relieving. Absolutely the most brutal withdrawals of any kratom type product.
So it makes you tired? Sounds like tired if there's no warmth involved. Does it cause withdrawal after single use? If so, it's not worth using.
 
So it makes you tired? Sounds like tired if there's no warmth involved. Does it cause withdrawal after single use? If so, it's not worth using.
I didn't find it lacking warmth, just that it was very sedating. Withdrawal will not show up with a single use I would say it is about comparable to oxycodone in addiction. Maybe it has tolerance grow a little faster. You need to binge for a good part of a week at least before it really gets bad in terms of withdrawal.
 
I didn't find it lacking warmth, just that it was very sedating. Withdrawal will not show up with a single use I would say it is about comparable to oxycodone in addiction. Maybe it has tolerance grow a little faster. You need to binge for a good part of a week at least before it really gets bad in terms of withdrawal.
So it's like taking hydrocodone or something? How long does this last? I'm still not getting a good idea of what it's like to take it
 
Its very similar to 7-ho, lasts 2-4 hours usually maybe longer if you take a big dose, shorter side for intranasal. Cant compare it to anything but 7 ho
 
Its very similar to 7-ho, lasts 2-4 hours usually maybe longer if you take a big dose, shorter side for intranasal. Cant compare it to anything but 7 ho
Well I wouldn't know about 7-OH so perhaps I should have asked about that first instead.🤷
 
Well I wouldn't know about 7-OH so perhaps I should have asked about that first instead.🤷
7 is a short acting stimulating opioid like shorter acting oxy maybe. Its kinda hard to explain exactly though cause it's got its own thing going.
 
If you take enough then yeah for sure, a very pleasant nod with both compounds, as long as you take enough. Stimulation and euphoria are more in lower doses or the initial rush if you insuflate it
 
If you take enough then yeah for sure, a very pleasant nod with both compounds, as long as you take enough. Stimulation and euphoria are more in lower doses or the initial rush if you insuflate it
Sounds like something you'd only want to use once a week or you might get fucked up on it and have a rough time on down the road.
 
How do they compare to traditional opioids?
Stimulation at low doses in my experience, maybe a tinge more sertonin release... Dont quote me on the serotonin part, im not actually sure, it just feels sort of serotonin releasing to me. Hard to really compare cause they are similar and I haven't been messing with street stuff recently. Reminds me of oxy, as I said before, hard to say more than that. Makes me want to dance at low doses, been waiting to take some at a show.
 
So it's like taking hydrocodone or something? How long does this last? I'm still not getting a good idea of what it's like to take it
I personally think it's better than hydrocodon, it's more comparable to oxycodon. If you dont have a tolerance to opiates or haven't been using opiates, then 100mg of 7oh will knock your socks off. I didn't believe it at first, and didn't wanna pay the high price to find out, but eventually a friend gave me a 100mg tablet (kama brand 7oh+pseudo), 45 mins after taking it i was getting in the car to go get more. I find the buzz to be significantly better than tabs or perks, it'll give you the classic opiate itch, lift your mood tremendously, and as far as pain goes I'd say it's even more effective than tabs or perks. The only downside is the high doesn't last as long, maybe 3-4 hours- making it easier to become addicted. I was spending hundreds of dollars a week and taking up to ten 100mg tabs in a days time. I would take two at a time. By the end of the day id have a nod going and be feeling right. Tolerance also builds rapidly, making you need more and more to achieve a high. By the end of my run with that stuff I was taking 60$ worth a day just to keep from being dope sick. And the withdrawal is indistinguishable from your traditional opiates, maybe even worse... if you're still thinking bout trying it id keep it an occasional thing. 7oh is great, but it can be horrific if you lack self control. Use in moderation.
 
Any nodding going on with the pseudo?
Major Nods if taken at higher dose like 50mg -100mg 🪦Idk if it’s possible to OD but I passed out after taking the whole 100mg🩻 I did wake up but I don’t remember much ❌Not recommend for beginners❌ I take 17mgs-30mg tops every morning to get out of full blown pain from a lumbar root disorder with a pressed nerve on the L4/L5 disc in my back. So I tried the kratom no luck, then I tried 7-oh started with 30mg tablets and ended up in the 100-300 range just to get out of a full blown pain episode. If taken in doses of 30-50mg every 2 hours I could stay out of pain with the 7-oh. The pain in my lower back goes down my left leg and into my foot giving sharp to dull constant discomfort spiking levels from 3/10 to 9/10. 1 being the lowest level of pain and 10 being the highest. Times I can’t even walk until I’ve had a dose. The rapid release Pseudo are great, 5-15 mins tops. Some take 30 mins
7-oh: takes 15mins to 2 hours to kick in.
So with that being said

Pseudoindoxyl is the strongest out of them all. Nods are wild, pains are gone. I feel energized at lower doses which seems to increase my Oxytocin and Dopamine levels and almost instantly. By no means is this a miracle 💊. But it’s as strong as Oxycodone if not more potent with sedative effects lasting longer than Oxy. Of course for me to get these effects would be around 80mgs of Oxy. Withdrawals: Haven’t had a single one and I’ve been taking for 3 months with little change to my dosage.​

Best brands: Kama 100mg 4 pack (25mg per tablet)
Lucid: 200mg 4 pack (50mg per tablet)
Then my favorite with the Chromapure Tech!: Real Botanicals products are pure, potent, and free from contaminants.
Ps: I don’t like how Kama breaks apart so easy and then Lucids are really hard to break.

Any questions just ask!
 
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