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Minimal effective dose for the long haul?

lodgepan

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My partner and I are probably the most boring MDMA fanatics on earth. We're following Ann Shulgin's recommendation to roll no more than every three months (4x a year). We take 120 mg of pure crystal that we've reagent-tested. No redosing. We sit on the couch, put on the music, say "I love you" to each other for four hours straight, and then curl up in bed and sleep for 12 hours. We've been doing this for years. The magic is still there.

My question is about going to a lower dose. If an 80 mg dose were still enjoyable, for example, then maybe we could squeeze in a fifth annual roll, and maybe extend our magic runway even farther. If trip reports are to be believed, some people have never taken more than 60 mg, others don't feel anything until 180, and still others are doing all this but also redosing. I am sure all these reports are true, but people are different sizes, some people mix other drugs, some do it once a year or once a weekend, and all these rolls are probably entirely different experiences. So it's hard to predict from reading alone what 80 mg will mean if we've been doing 120 mg all this time.

We treat these experiences as kind of sacred, so we're reluctant to experiment and maybe waste a roll and have to wait months to try again.

If you're boring like us, and you've experimented with going lower, I'd like to hear about it. Thanks for sharing, and stay safe.
 
I think it likely you'd be unsatisfied with an 80mg dose

You seem to onto a good thing with your present dosage, and quality experience trumps quantity every time

(feels a bit icky using the word 'trumps' now, ewwww, apologies. Another thing the orange moron has ruined)
 
I think your "boring" MDMA routine is perfect. As @ageingpartyfiend said, it's better to have 4 magic rolls a year than to try and squeeze in an extra one. It sounds like a lovely time imo; if it ain't broke don't fix it.
 
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