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Milk doesn't do a body good.

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Horizon is the first brand that comes to my mind..but Ive only seen it in magazines...I feel your pain everythinginside..there is a very limited selection of organic foods in my area as well.
 
Genetics tend to determine if milk is good for a person. If you have the right genetics (you're not lactos intolerant/allergic) and drink organic milk, it is very good for you. It has fat, protein, vitamins and USABLE calcium. Osteoperosis could come from a million different places.

I personally wouldn't touch the stuff unless I raised the cow my self...:\
 
Ooops, sort of didn't see the mammal part, sorry about that! I shouldn't post while drinking. ;)

Most of the dairy I consume is organic -- all the butter, cream and milk (and recently I found organic buttermilk, yay! great for pancakes and waffles :)) and most of the cheese. I f I can't find an organic version of a cheese I want, I try to get a raw milk cheese from another country (usually Europe), or I go for artisan (local, small batch handmade) cheeses. These tend to use better milk in their production.

I will tell you one thing, organic dairy is NOT cheap, being about 3-5x more expensive than non-organic depending on the product.

I def agree with genetics being part of it (as I implied earlier), and a large part of that can be determined by looking at your heritage. I am descended from people who have been consuming lots of dairy for millenia -- at least on my mother's side of the family -- so it makes sense that I should be able to eat it without problems.

I too would prefer to have my own cow (and actually I used to long for a farm overall, and my own eggs etc), or even to just be able to get it from someone whom I know who has cows. Fresh from the cow, unhomogenized/unpasteurized milk has some risks but alot of potential benefits (enzyme and nutrients) and it tastes DELICIOUS!
 
I have cut out dairy products in the past few days and am observing my body for changes... I did however eat half a sandwich that had some cheese in it :( (I was really hungry) today but from now on I will cut out most if not all dairy products!

Milk I can cut out easily
Cheese I can cut out easily
Yoghurt I can cut out easily
Cream easily

Butter is probably gonna be the most difficult thing to cut out. What else can I put on my bread???!!
 
Maybe I'll just stick with butter. And that will be my only dairy product consumed in 1 month and i'll see how my body acts with no dairy products being ingested:)
 
Italian sandwich: rub fresh tomato over bread, so the juice goes to bread, put some olive oil and put some cheese and that's it :)
 
you know- i got real with myself.

how can i not eat pizza? I don't eat it much anyways.. but when i do it's awesome (we have the greasiest pizza available here ;) )

I will still eat pizza- but milk is a no as long as I can't get the organic stuff around here.

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That actually doesn't sound bad.. the olive oils, spices.. one of my favorite dishes is kale(sp?), a kind of cabbage- in a little bit of vinegar and spices... although i've only ate it once, it was great... weird. I need to pick some of that stuff up. I guess that's not bread.. but I can see how it might go decent with some toast. Have to at least try it someday.
 
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I will be so suprised if you can't get organic milk where you live. Have you tried looking up health food stores in the phone book? Also, ASKING in the largest supermarket near you?

SLM, how can it be foul? :D I mean I can see how you might prefer butter (for me, it depends on the bread type and my mood) but FOUL? Really?
 
^^earth balance is an awesome non-hydrogenated butter. It tastes just like (or better than) butter and even has some omega-3 content :)

also, olive oil and vinager on good bread is awesome!
 
I feel priveliged to live right near a Whole Foods supermarket, which, if you're not familiar with the chain, is an amazing and loaded organic foods market that is geared towards vegetarians and vegans, but also has much meat and dairy, most, if not all meeting "organic" standards. Plus, they have a buffet style area for breakfast/lunch/dinner, which probably has the best food (and healthiest food) I've ever had "buffet" style (most buffets are your typical half-cooked, half-assed, Hometown Buffet garbage; this place is vastly better).
 
I DESPISE milk and couldn't drink it if you made me. Which is funny because when I was much younger, I loved it. But in the last 10 years I haven't been able to stomach it at all, and I can't even tell you the last time I had a glass of milk.

However, there are dairy products that I like. I LOVE yogurt (only the light kind though) and cheeses and frozen yogurt and icecream.... HOWEVER I'm convinced I'm at least somewhat lactose intolerant. I get sick about 75% of the time that I eat any dairy product (excluding light yogurt for some odd reason). I believe I heard somewhere that the human body isn't capable or designed do digest dairy anyway.... or something like that. Anyway I still enjoy some dairy products and just take my chances as far as whether or not I'll end up in the bathroom for 1/2 hr after consuming it :p

I should probably consider a calcium supplement though, I'm sure I don't get enough.
 
starlightgemini said:
I get sick about 75% of the time that I eat any dairy product (excluding light yogurt for some odd reason).

Many lactose intolerant people can actually eat yogurt. Or at least small amounts. It has something to do with the good bacteria in it or something.
 
Anyone ever tried any kind of variety of those OTC meds that lactose intolerant people can take to help them digest dairy? Just curious if they'd actually work and what exactly they do.
 
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