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Heroin Mid South U.S. Heroin Discussion

most people will not touch heroin because of its stigma, but pharma dope is acceptable because it is sold in walgreens and is prescribed by doctors. As far as price, the prices in florida are cheaper than chitown when it comes to oc's and roxis.,. I get the oc 80's from my doctor monthly, which my insurance covers, you would be suprised how mmany people love the shit and prefer it over dope. if you are getiing strreet dimes in chicago, oc and roxis are defintly the better choice. jabs and all that bullshit is for the people that live in the hood, low budget. Get a real connect who gives it to you raw with the pills in a seperate bag so you can add cut as you see fit. All that red tape and other bullshit is for the people that live in that hood. its like coke used to be for the people who can afford it and crack for the ghetto poor

if you stick a needle in your arm for pills who can say anything?? so fuck a stigma

you say get a real connect but fuck that..my connect is great, consistant, reliable, never takes a day off and when they are sold out they still pick up the phone and let you know it wont be for a couple hours..with a new connect you have to acually go out and find one..which that alone is super hard and risky and takes alot of trial and error. time i dont have really and say i do find a new connect..you have to start rebuilding a new relationship. they might make you drive to shittier areas, they might not be consistant or reliable, i mean i can go on forever theres alot of reasons why i dont try find new connects and the easiest answer to sum it all up is i dont need one

i dont hit the corners and cop from random people, i use a phone connect and you say the red tape is for locals..your wrong i would say 90% on their business is white folks, from the burbs

now i can call my pill dude and get a OC80 for the same price as 2 bags of dope...and you say its cheaper down in florida but most pain clinics in florida the insurance doesnt cover those pills or anything else for that matter..they make you pay cash for everything..cash for the doctor to see you is $200 first visit then 150 for follow ups then you need an MRI and thats another 300 so before you even get the script you already have to shell out 450=500$ cash and they you have to pay cash for the script and when your getting 120pills of roxy and 90 xanax and whatever else they might give you ...thats another 400-500+bucks..and then your gonna do it agan the next month and have to spend another 800-1000bucks or something..i dont ever come close to spending 800/month on dope so i dont see how you can say that its cheaper...maybe in illinois where you can get your insurance to cover it but not in florida

and if im sick i can call my dude up and get a bag or 2 for cheap but when your sick and need pills would one oc 80 even take the sik away when you need 600mgs of it??


and SHAKE.....i know i put prices in the post but the prices where hypothetical and not actual fact..if it breaks the rules im sorry and ill remove them but i was trying to prove the point..i neve mentioned the price of an individual bag of dope or pill or the price of bulk weight, i just gave the prices for doctor visits and things related
 
if you stick a needle in your arm for pills who can say anything?? so fuck a stigma

you say get a real connect but fuck that..my connect is great, consistant, reliable, never takes a day off and when they are sold out they still pick up the phone and let you know it wont be for a couple hours..with a new connect you have to acually go out and find one..which that alone is super hard and risky and takes alot of trial and error. time i dont have really and say i do find a new connect..you have to start rebuilding a new relationship. they might make you drive to shittier areas, they might not be consistant or reliable, i mean i can go on forever theres alot of reasons why i dont try find new connects and the easiest answer to sum it all up is i dont need one

i dont hit the corners and cop from random people, i use a phone connect and you say the red tape is for locals..your wrong i would say 90% on their business is white folks, from the burbs

now i can call my pill dude and get a OC80 for the same price as 2 bags of dope...and you say its cheaper down in florida but most pain clinics in florida the insurance doesnt cover those pills or anything else for that matter..they make you pay cash for everything..cash for the doctor to see you is $200 first visit then 150 for follow ups then you need an MRI and thats another 300 so before you even get the script you already have to shell out 450=500$ cash and they you have to pay cash for the script and when your getting 120pills of roxy and 90 xanax and whatever else they might give you ...thats another 400-500+bucks..and then your gonna do it agan the next month and have to spend another 800-1000bucks or something..i dont ever come close to spending 800/month on dope so i dont see how you can say that its cheaper...maybe in illinois where you can get your insurance to cover it but not in florida

and if im sick i can call my dude up and get a bag or 2 for cheap but when your sick and need pills would one oc 80 even take the sik away when you need 600mgs of it??


and SHAKE.....i know i put prices in the post but the prices where hypothetical and not actual fact..if it breaks the rules im sorry and ill remove them but i was trying to prove the point..i neve mentioned the price of an individual bag of dope or pill or the price of bulk weight, i just gave the prices for doctor visits and things related
i say fuck stigma also, iwas just trying to say that most people wont touch heroin but they will mess around with oc which i think is worse. but since they get them from doc they think its ok. If you have a good connect then i agree that you should stick with it. Red tape is a the most garbage product there is from what i here. Me personally i cant see myself copping ten dollar foils. 9 times out of ten its probably cut to shit. And they have many local customers. As far as oc 80's (name brand purdue) i would think one would take the sik away for sure, but thats just me and i only party on fridays so im clean by monday. Partying one day a week will keep the sik away, i can vouch for that. the one guy i know in florida hooks up roxi 30's the same price as a dime of dope
 
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Damn thats pretty expensive to me, but I never was into Roxy's,never saw them around while I was scripted to OC's in 2003-2006, MSContins,Percocet 10's, Fentanyl patches,etc..although I was a doctor shopper from 1999 till 2006, I was scripted all the above plus Demerol, Methadone,etc..never was scripted to roxy's though, even got Dilaudid's by the shitload from a quack doctor as well as OC's etc..Roxys must be a newer drug to be scripted or the doctors I went to just wrote out scripts for OC's and Dilaudid,etc..
Now I hear about Roxy;s all the time,but never see any, but I'm outta the pharm. opiate game since 2006, and have been doing heroin instead, with the occasional Dilaudids here and there..
Saw a girl on Intervention smoking Roxy's off foil, like tar heroin or something, did not know you could toss a part of a Roxy on the foil and smoke it and it get you high!!Crazy huh?!
 
but the amount of people i have seen/heard do it, says otherwise

I got to say, the few people I've ever seen do it definitely got fucked up off of it. Once they tried it they swore by it and wouldn't snort em. I never tried it so I can't say personally. Now some dumb shit I've heard of is people crushin up pills and putting it on blunts, now that's fuckin stupid and I've never seen no body noddin off from doin that.
 
I got to say, the few people I've ever seen do it definitely got fucked up off of it. Once they tried it they swore by it and wouldn't snort em. I never tried it so I can't say personally. Now some dumb shit I've heard of is people crushin up pills and putting it on blunts, now that's fuckin stupid and I've never seen no body noddin off from doin that.

I have heard of people doing that (smoking Roxys) from a friend in another town who says like 1/2 the people there that do Roxys smoke them..I had never seen it before until that TV show where the chick was doing it, and I asked him via Email and he was like yeah, 1/2 the people here smoke Roxys!
It tripped me out, never did it myself or saw anyone before that show doing it...People crushing up pills and putting it on a blunt is defintely a waste of drugs..lol..
I know a few people that have mixed like a 1/4 gram of tar in a blunt and I hit it, but did not feel any "heroin buzz" lol...fucking idiots, thats like dipping a blunt in hydrocodone cough syrup and smoking it..you not gonna get shit really from that, not the hydrocodone ,it will be wasted, but I guess people get a "placebo" high from doing that shit, it's usually younger inexperienced people, inexpereinced with opiates that is that do such shit,
But I can see smoking a roxy off the foil via tar style would work..Seems like it would but I personaly never have done it but I trust my buddy and also you highonlife , if you say people can get high smoking the Roxys I beleive you, got no reason not to believe you after all, you never posted anything in here that I thought twice about it being true, so I know think maybe I missed something when I used to get OXy's ..lol..damn..oh well..I moved on to the Heroin anyway, shits cheaper than pills about everywhere I think..
 
Fuck you can get high doing anything. Smoking roxies is such a fucking waste, and i'm sorry but I will never understand why some people "swear by it" there brains are definently gone. Your probably getting 25% of the drug smoking it with all the binders and fillers, just a rough guess.

I'll stick to eating and a 90% bio, thanks.
 
Fuck you can get high doing anything. Smoking roxies is such a fucking waste, and i'm sorry but I will never understand why some people "swear by it" there brains are definently gone. Your probably getting 25% of the drug smoking it with all the binders and fillers, just a rough guess.

I'll stick to eating and a 90% bio, thanks.

Well I never smoked any roxys and now I snort heroin anyway, so I really don't care how some one else chooses to do their drugs , whether it wastes 90% it's their shit to waste, so I don't care!lol,,,I prefer oral or IV OC's ,the old school ones which I have not done in several years,I don't mess with the new ones or anything but heroin, except for Dilaudid's which I inject only, only way to get high on Diluadid is to IV, but thats my opinion, tried snorting and all that shit, but IV dilaudid is the only way I will do them..
 
ill stick to putting em in my arm because when your tolerance is as high as mine you just cant fathom snorting a gram+ of powder to get fucking high it sucks. I have plenty of friends that love to smoke there fucking pills and if it tastes anything like it smells i cant imagine it being very pleasant.
 
Yeah it looked pretty nasty , left a trail of black shit , thats why for a second I thought she was smoking tar, I know some tar or maybe most tar leaves resdiue burns or "black shit" on the foil, so I assumed it was tar..but I cannot imagine the taste of smoking a pill on some foil!
 
Dude that girl from intervention that went to that school in Jamaica that you watched. I was at that fucking school in jamaica in 2005 after i got kicked outta my high school. That place aint no fucking joke and kids really were killing themselves while there. My parents lied to me about it and i was like fuck yea ill go to jamaica for school and got there and wanted to kill myself and everyone around me. I sat in the isolation room for two weeks when i got there for telling someone i was gonna strangle them when we went to bed. Place was very fucked up.
 
Dude that girl from intervention that went to that school in Jamaica that you watched. I was at that fucking school in jamaica in 2005 after i got kicked outta my high school. That place aint no fucking joke and kids really were killing themselves while there. My parents lied to me about it and i was like fuck yea ill go to jamaica for school and got there and wanted to kill myself and everyone around me. I sat in the isolation room for two weeks when i got there for telling someone i was gonna strangle them when we went to bed. Place was very fucked up.

Elaborate?
 
look up "tranquility Bay Jamaica" on google or something man. Or look up "WWASP programs" They are basically brainwashing efforts by this mormon dude that started it David Gilcrease. And they make you go to seminars and all kinds of bullshit and basically make you do what they say. I still have nightmares of that fucking place atleast once a week. I was at Tranquility Bay and at Cross Creek which was in Utah. They had one of those schools in Costa Rica that the government shut down because of child abuse back in like 2006-2007 i think. Basically that group of school has a lot of lawsuits against them for child abuse, neglect, and child endangerment. I was a lucky one though i turned 18 and after that they cant keep you there if you want to leave. When you go your parents sign over 51% custody of their child and you are their's until you either graduate the program or turn 18. I turned 18 and took my "exit plan" which consisted of a bus ticket and $50. I was homeless for a week before i got ahold of my parents and they flew out and picked me up and later found out about this place. Really though i guess my parents didnt lie but more they were lied to. These places werent fucking cheap either so of course the people selling your parents on it haveta lie out there ass to get you there. It was $5400 a month and i was there 11 months. You can hit me up on PM if you wanna hear more though but that shit really has scarred me for life.
Actually here ya go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tranquility_Bay
 
It was $5400 a month

8o Holy fuck for that price they shoulda been passin out blowjobs and crack rocks. But on a serious note, I never thought I'd say it but I'm glad I got sent to a juvenile lock up not that shit. It was a fucked up experience, but at least the staff wasn't the ones you had to worry about fuckin you up. And I deserved it cuz I got a gun and dope charge and I was already on probation, not like that where it says kids get sent there just for "causing trouble" like getting caught smoking weed. I feel bad for anybody who had to go thru that shit.

This was one of the references on that wiki, definitely worth reading..

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2006-06-22/news/rough-love/full
 
yea dude i was in there with everything from 12 year old kids that just had a bad adhd problem up to this one gangster azn dude from sacramento that the courts sent him there for gang activity. And honestly ive been to jail and would much rather have been in jail than that place. I mean the doors were think steel and magnetic you couldnt get out no possible way. They screened all of our letters and phone calls so you couldnt be like oh yea there is kids killing themselves and staff is fucking us up to your parents. They got as brainwashed as we did being there.

im just happy that this shit is finally coming into other peoples views cause these places fucked up a lot of people for life. No one should haveta go through the emotional and physical abuse at these fucking places. That article you posted Bricks&stacks is actually a really good account of how those fucking places are.
 
Damn that Jamaican place sounds a lot like Hell...fuck having some religiuos guru type leader...damn I never went to rehab, I kicked at home over one hellish month of self isolation,having my family there to run off the 10 times a day visits from dope fiends and the constant phone calls, they were wanting me to get them dope more than hook me up, the bastards, I used to sell Diluadids, OC's and heroin at one time,all in pretty large amounts, but I kicked at home for about a month striaght with no drugs of any kind, made it outta that hellish scene , although know, about 5 years later I still do heroin, but I mostly always snort it, and have managed to keep my habit low compared to then, and when I run out of dope know, my withdrawals are not 1/10th as bad as then..anyway I'm not in my city where I get my dope,or was last year, I'm out in the sticks 99% of the time now, and heroin is harder to get, but still around, I am one of the few people in my area, that have a connection in a nearby town, and I get good powder from them, kinda pricey, but they cut me a better deal since I know their uncle and cousins,etc.. and I get Oz's of really good coke from them so I can get dope ,but sometimes the run out, and so do I, but the WD's are not too bad ,compared to that one month of hell on earth..

Dude that girl from intervention that went to that school in Jamaica that you watched. I was at that fucking school in jamaica in 2005 after i got kicked outta my high school. That place aint no fucking joke and kids really were killing themselves while there. My parents lied to me about it and i was like fuck yea ill go to jamaica for school and got there and wanted to kill myself and everyone around me. I sat in the isolation room for two weeks when i got there for telling someone i was gonna strangle them when we went to bed. Place was very fucked up.

Damn was the faciltity surronded by tall walls and guards around and all that?! I would have escaped day one from such a naziish sounding place, stole some money of the bible thuming guru leader or something, fucking woulda stole a butcher knife and slahed my way outta there, and if they had guards with guns, I would have tried to sneak up from behind and drop him with a blade into the base of the skull=instant death..and grabbed his gun,money,and gone out like a crazy outlaw into Jamaicas mean streets, and then fuck it , use the gun to get by...thats just crazy though...I'm too violently opposed to shit like that for me to have stayed, jail was bad enough, and I made by toothbrush into a sharpend pointed shank the first day I was in jail, lol..I had practice making homemade weapons tho...lotta ex-con relatives you know..lol..For real..
 
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Yea it was surrounded by tall fences that kinda leaned into the facility so you couldnt climb out if your life depended on it. And believe me i thought of all kinds of shit to try and escape. There literally is no possible way. I mean i got taken to a dr once and i was handcuffed to the fucking staff. And they say that staff didnt have many requirements which is true other than being big intimidating mother fuckers. We had a dude there that was pretty much "discipline staff" is what we called him but he was this big 6'3 375lb samoan dude named mr. sam. This dude was build like a brick shithouse and could dunk a basketball or run any of us down. And you couldnt steal money cause there was none in the facility. Staff werent allowed to carry wallets or any form of currency into the place. There wasnt any guns or knives either just big mother fuckers that would fuck you up on the quick.
 
No access to any kitchenware like a fork or anything? Toothbrushes, razors to shave with, metal from bed frames? Nothing? I would defintely have found something to make a weapon with, but a Samoan dude that big would be hard to beat, lol..I'm 6'4" and 275 Lb.s and I would not want to fight a dude that size, shorter but 100 pounds heavier!! Damn..I would use some jail/prison type tactics to make a weapon, but you were only 18 or something though? I can sharpen a toothbrush down on a concrete floor or anything down into a pointed object in 15 minutes tops..lol..No matter how big a dude is, a sharp object of any kind jabbed right into the base of the skull will sever the brain stem ,killing them before they hit the floor..anyway thats some hard core shit there, sounds worse than any jail I have been in, and I have been in several!! Damnit, but you can use a spring from a spring bed frame or a fork, piece of hard plastic, etc.. to shank someone, you just gotta hit them as hard and as fast as you can in the guts, especially around the lower rib cage...lol..I sound like I'm in jail giving advice huh?! lol..sorry, but I can't help talking about it, I'm thinking of myself in that place, and what I might do, if there was any thing to do..Also taking apart a disposable razor, having the blade wrapped in a piece if cloth,where your hand goes around it, two quick slashes to each side of a person neck, if deep enough, will cut the carotid artery,and the jugular vein, which causes blood to squirt 5 feet out with each beat of the heart, no way to suture them up quick enough to save someone if done right, total bleed out ( Brain Dead) in 4 minutes, instant shock and passing out in a minute tops,lol..I read about that move from a "article online" by a former Isreali Commando and Assassin...lol..
 
well all the beds were wooden bunk beds and you get checked for shit at least 3 times a day. Yea when i got there i was like 8 months from turning 18 so i was counting down the days thats the only thing that kept me sane was knowing i could walk when i turned 18. The people that could shave werent allowed razors only electric trimmers man. Im telling ya they thought about all this shit for a long ass time. Did you read those articles man? That shit was way worse than boot camp. The only physical activity was basketball and honestly i was a baller at basketball by the time i left haha. Im only 5'10 170 lbs and i could dunk the fucking ball when i left. And there wasnt just one staff that was big as fuck almost all of the male staff were big dumb mother fuckers. I mean i can run really fast and am very athletic but these guys for how big they were us kids didnt stand a chance. And like it says that place would break people so not only did you haveta worry about staff fucking with you but the kids that had been broke and brainwashed would stab you in the back every chance they got to make themselves look better and get rewarded. Its basically a snitch camp and the people that had been broke i called em "robots" cause you could tell exactly what they would do in a certain situation. There was a group of us guys that werent broke and we plotted but believe me but seriously you couldnt trust anyone with shit so you were basically on your own. I seriously am scarred from that place like night terrors and flashbacks of that place and being taken in the middle of the night from my house while my parents knew what was happening to me really fucked me up. Anytime you would try to tell someone on the outside you would be called a manipulating liar and that nothing had changed and you need to be demoted in level and sent to isolation and lay on your face and think about what you were doing in your "program." i still talk to a few of the guys i was there with that graduated and shit and they still sound like robots. I have too much free will i guess and am not gonna conform to some mormom horse shit like that it aint for me. Im not religious and damn sure wouldnt be mormon if i was. I saw a kid start yelling at this mr. sam guy and get tackled down some stairs and half his skin on his face got burned off by the carpet on the way down the stairs. they gave him some peroxide and made him sit in isolation for a month. No hospital visit no dr come to check him out nothing. Now that kid is in prison though for armed robbery so oh well kid was a dumbass anyway but no kid deserves the shit that went on there.
 
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