MGTOW

[Zopiclone bandit]

Came across this the other day via a show on the BBC & been having a look at their site, even though I find some of what they say just damn wrong & it really doesn't ring any bells for me as some of them seem to have a real hate for females which is beyond me some of the other stuff on there is so true.

"I’m still waiting for my white male privilege membership card. Must have gotten lost in the mail."

"Most whores are just honest women. Most women are just dishonest whores. By the way, that is just as much an indictment of men as it is women. Men get what they pay for, and we are notoriously poor shoppers."

"A prenup is like a kevlar glove on your dick before putting it in the wood chipper. Why not just avoid putting it in the wood chipper? Run. Run far. Run fast."

Anyone care or would dare to admit they belong to this online group, how do women view these sites & men that agree with their views?

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

MGTOW

MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way - is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestion of one word: No. Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a man is. Looking to no one else for social...

www.mgtow.com

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Came across this the other day via a show on the BBC & been having a look at their site, even though I find some of what they say just damn wrong & it really doesn't ring any bells for me as some of them seem to have a real hate for females which is beyond me some of the other stuff on there is so true.

"I’m still waiting for my white male privilege membership card. Must have gotten lost in the mail."

"Most whores are just honest women. Most women are just dishonest whores. By the way, that is just as much an indictment of men as it is women. Men get what they pay for, and we are notoriously poor shoppers."

"A prenup is like a kevlar glove on your dick before putting it in the wood chipper. Why not just avoid putting it in the wood chipper? Run. Run far. Run fast."

Anyone care or would dare to admit they belong to this online group, how do women view these sites & men that agree with their views?

I had never heard about this group at all until a friend told me about it, using the ackronym which I asked him what it meant. They seem to forget how most women do not respect whores/prostitutes, and most women who are or were whores/prostitutes know this.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

They seem to forget how most women do not respect whores/prostitutes, and most women who are or were whores/prostitutes know this.

Most women in one way or another get paid for it, the amount of women I know that don't work & give it up to their boyfriend / husband to be kept in a lifestyle they want is insane.
Isn't that the same thing?........my ex works 16 hours a week in a country that taxes people 40/50% so her income to actually live on isn't worth talking about, she would be eating out of date dog food if she had to stand on her own two feet but she drives around in a Telsa worth over £90,000, has all her fashion needs taken care of, meals out etc & all he asks is she gives up the pussy once a day & some ass now & then.

Go figure..............

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Most women in one way or another get paid for it, the amount of women I know that don't work & give it up to their boyfriend / husband to be kept in a lifestyle they want is insane.
Isn't that the same thing?........my ex works 16 hours a week in a country that taxes people 40/50% so her income to actually live on isn't worth talking about, she would be eating out of date dog food if she had to stand on her own two feet but she drives around in a Telsa worth over £90,000, has all her fashion needs taken care of, meals out etc & all he asks is she gives up the pussy once a day & some ass now & then.

Go figure..............

Your ex is from Norway, correct? Taxes and the cost of living are very expensive in all of the Nordic/Scandinavian countries.

Not all women are like your ex and want to be kept, etc.

 

[Lucy20]

I am not a woman who needs to be "kept". I pride myself on getting an education to support myself. No man has ever had to buy me drugs or anything i needed.
Alot of us women are independent and wouldn't have it any other way.
Im an engineer and my boyfriend a musician so i make more so he would be the "kept man" . We are both independent people

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

She sure was @PriestTheyCalledHim & she also had some weird hate for my Burroughs collection....go figure.

I firmly believe anyone that hates Burroughs is mentally ill.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

I am not a woman who needs to be "kept". I pride myself on getting an education to support myself. No man has ever had to buy me drugs or anything i needed.
Alot of us women are independent and wouldn't have it any other way.
Im an engineer and my boyfriend a musician so i make more so he would be the "kept man" . We are both independent people

IMHO you seem to be well above the average woman these days, what I've read of your posts you really broke the mold when God made you.

 

[Lucy20]

IMHO you seem to be well above the average woman these days, what I've read of your posts you really broke the mold when God made you.

Aww thank you, my anti bum sex grandma did a good job. She instilled early to be independent so i would never have to rely on a man. She was an intelligent lady but denied an education by her husband because she had to stay home with the kids.
Be there for her husband's needs while neglecting her own.
She is old fashioned in alot of ways but always stressed independence and education

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

She sure was @PriestTheyCalledHim & she also had some weird hate for my Burroughs collection....go figure.

I firmly believe anyone that hates Burroughs is mentally ill.

That's very odd. I know a gay man who was basically kept, in a way. He said it was like living in a gilded cage, and he knew that at any time he could be easily replaced, and this is exactly what happened when his ex cheated on him, and took up with the paramour.

 

[morpher001]

So much of what is said of women or romanticized about them is quite often either wrong or the polar opposite of the reality.

Women as a group are quick to jump to the defense of other women with zealous loyalty, irrespective of the situation. Men tend on the other hand tend to by sympathetic to the plight of a women, also with an alarming level of blindness.

Hence the existence of mgtow and why they tend to be a bit salty.

Look at Lucy20. She has a weird complex about being supported in a relationship, even though she supports her boyfriend to certain degree or would be happy to. All because her salty granny drilled it in to her head and no-ones called her on it. Or invited her to consider that perhaps her grandfather made sacrifices as well, as opposed to gallivanting around as he pleased to the detriment of his oppressed spouse.

Clever enough to be an engineer but still harboring an irrational fear or perhaps distrust of men, even her spouse.

 

[pofacedhoe]

Came across this the other day via a show on the BBC & been having a look at their site, even though I find some of what they say just damn wrong & it really doesn't ring any bells for me as some of them seem to have a real hate for females which is beyond me some of the other stuff on there is so true.

"I’m still waiting for my white male privilege membership card. Must have gotten lost in the mail."

"Most whores are just honest women. Most women are just dishonest whores. By the way, that is just as much an indictment of men as it is women. Men get what they pay for, and we are notoriously poor shoppers."

"A prenup is like a kevlar glove on your dick before putting it in the wood chipper. Why not just avoid putting it in the wood chipper? Run. Run far. Run fast."

Anyone care or would dare to admit they belong to this online group, how do women view these sites & men that agree with their views?

they just sound bitter and stupid

no-one is making them do anything but if they want a woman all the time they have to compromise on something

and if they dont then they dont have to

marriage is a financial contract to provide stability when raising a family

 

[Lucy20]

So much of what is said of women or romanticized about them is quite often either wrong or the polar opposite of the reality.

Women as a group are quick to jump to the defense of other women with zealous loyalty, irrespective of the situation. Men tend on the other hand tend to by sympathetic to the plight of a women, also with an alarming level of blindness.

Hence the existence of mgtow and why they tend to be a bit salty.

Look at Lucy20. She has a weird complex about being supported in a relationship, even though she supports her boyfriend to certain degree or would be happy to. All because her salty granny drilled it in to her head and no-ones called her on it. Or invited her to consider that perhaps her grandfather made sacrifices as well, as opposed to gallivanting around as he pleased to the detriment of his oppressed spouse.

Clever enough to be an engineer but still harboring an irrational fear or perhaps distrust of men, even her spouse.

You are dead wrong. I don't have female friends for one. And my grandmother teaching me to be independent isn't wrong either.
And yes my grandfather was out drinking after work til he came home and beat my nan, so yes he was out enjoying himself while my grandmother was stuck at home raising kids and keeping a good house, oppressed is the correct word .

 

[Lucy20]

So much of what is said of women or romanticized about them is quite often either wrong or the polar opposite of the reality.

Women as a group are quick to jump to the defense of other women with zealous loyalty, irrespective of the situation. Men tend on the other hand tend to by sympathetic to the plight of a women, also with an alarming level of blindness.

Hence the existence of mgtow and why they tend to be a bit salty.

Look at Lucy20. She has a weird complex about being supported in a relationship, even though she supports her boyfriend to certain degree or would be happy to. All because her salty granny drilled it in to her head and no-ones called her on it. Or invited her to consider that perhaps her grandfather made sacrifices as well, as opposed to gallivanting around as he pleased to the detriment of his oppressed spouse.

Clever enough to be an engineer but still harboring an irrational fear or perhaps distrust of men, even her spouse.

And if you read i trust my partner more then anyone else

 

[morpher001]

Lucy20 - I didn't intend to be critical in a personal way, even though I clearly was.

Its horrible to consider any human life spent shackled to a task not of their choosing. Even too survive a tough natural environment where primal necessity dictates those terms would chafe badly enough.

When its driven by unduly rigid social conventions, narrowly focused ideologies, or a draconian regulatory and/or market environment; thats when it bites the hardest. I'd say these are the circumstances that your nan didn't want you to endure.

You nan lived in a time where (as I understand it) after a rather basic course of schooling almost all the girls stayed home and did an apprenticeship with their mothers on how to keep a house. Most men did an apprenticeship in a trade. Then small percentage went on to further education and those that did almost exclusively were boys - any girls that got to study mainly came from wealthy families (where being unable to keep a house didn't matter).

An efficient arrangement that would cater to the preferences of most. But what of the rest?

Consider than your grandfather may have been equally miserable with the duty he was shunted into and had no more control over it than did your grandmother. Every day both build up a fresh and full load resentment to greet each other with in the evening. How long before a relationship between even the of nicest people deteriorates & you can paint the rest of that picture. Was one of them a saint and the other a sadist? Maybe. Probably not though.

If we pause the tape there, I wonder if we see the the same thing? Add to the picture an increasing level of automation in the home.

So what should society do to better accommodate itself and its diverse interests, while best leveraging off and flexing with the rapidly evolving nature & magnitude of household duties?

How does that contrast with what has in fact occurred?

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Seems my thread is turning into a small war sadly.

Well anyway it is my thread so I'll post something here that will go over the heads of 99.8% of BL users like usual but what would my posts be if it didn't mean anything to most of you huh?
@PriestTheyCalledHim You ever used a Brion Gysin Dream Machine?

Maybe of interest to you......


EDIT

Also I take it you know about his café in Tangier 101 nights that was taken over by some Scientology nutcases, the music he used to have were a group of Sufi Muslims, he got turned onto them by Paul Bowles (the famous American author) & this is the recording Brian Jones did of them in Joujouka, this album for some reason really helped "heal me" when I was doing a brutal withdrawl off heroin with no meds or sleepers etc.



The rest of you can carry on with your "salty" argument now.

 

[TenPi]

they just sound bitter and stupid

no-one is making them do anything but if they want a woman all the time they have to compromise on something

and if they dont then they dont have to

marriage is a financial contract to provide stability when raising a family

I agree, I think there is a lot of truth to this. But they did not know better at the beginning. They like many people were memed into doing things they didn't want to do because they thought it was the right thing to do. My favourite way of hearing about it was that it was "men sent their own way".

I used to be into redpill, I did not gain anything but a warped way of how evil women were, an archetype of BPD and how to manipulate women of that kind. Never had the heart to, I'm a bit of a pussy. But these men who wrote that are simply angry that they were divorced and didn't get the happily ever after. They were duped and are now very angry. Lets be honest, divorce rape is awful for a man. He can feel that way. But what is the point of this post? You can find it all out on /r/MTGOW they are just resentful men that don't need women but talk nothing but of women, like /r/childfree a facination of hatred of people they can't stop talking about.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

I agree, I think there is a lot of truth to this. But they did not know better at the beginning. They like many people were memed into doing things they didn't want to do because they thought it was the right thing to do. My favourite way of hearing about it was that it was "men sent their own way".

I used to be into redpill, I did not gain anything but a warped way of how evil women were, an archetype of BPD and how to manipulate women of that kind. Never had the heart to, I'm a bit of a pussy. But these men who wrote that are simply angry that they were divorced and didn't get the happily ever after. They were duped and are now very angry. Lets be honest, divorce rape is awful for a man. He can feel that way. But what is the point of this post? You can find it all out on /r/MTGOW they are just resentful men that don't need women but talk nothing but of women, like /r/childfree a facination of hatred of people they can't stop talking about.

Yeah, r/childfree is full of crazy people. I have friends and relatives who do not have children, or want them, and they do not behave the way people do there.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Men get what they pay for, and we are notoriously poor shoppers."

Finally managed to spend some time with the only person I know & can call a real friend, his the same guy I was moaning about a few weeks ago that has hooked up with this woman via some weird dating app. I've not seen him for over two months & we used to be together all the time (we had each others back in this gear world, if I was sick he would help me & vice versa. When I got paid or he got his monthly wage we would smoke crack till the early AM & drink K cider while breaking down Brexit & other English political events etc, he was my best mate & the only person I like to spend time with)

Anyway I saw him yesterday afternoon driving past, he blew the horn & I waved but he drove on so I was like "Well fuck it, his got that pussy now so what do his mates matter huh?" it turned out he was dropping this woman off at work & rang me the second she was out the car & asked me if I wanna go burn a few rocks & get some gear for afters......cause I fucking do man!!!!!

Anyway after scoring & getting back to his flat we began to chat as we had a lot to catch up on, turns out his lost his goddamn mind, his now posing for Instagram photos with all these filters on that give HIM a dog nose / bunny ears etc & the one he looked like some K-pop homosexual fuck boy with his arm around this woman all smiles, I felt a slight bit sick tbh. His so in "love" with her & all the stuff he said he would never do before he got with her has gone right out the window, his so "pussy whipped" right now it is actually quite a disturbing sight, I showed him the MGTOW site but he wasn't impressed as I think he kinda knew what I was getting at. His given up his flat to move in with this female that his known for 9 weeks so NOW she holds the cards, they are getting a joint bank account, going on holiday etc etc...........I just rolled my eyes & held the heroin smoke in deeper as he talked (Thank God for opiates is all I can say)

She has his bank card at times & all kinds of weird stuff, it truly is like his joined some weird cult. What makes men loose their minds when they get sith someone like he has is truly beyond me, I'd not trust a woman 100% ever & I tried to tell him this, she is a human & in my experience of life 99.9% of humanity sucks, I told him when it all blows up in his face I have a sofa for him to sleep on, he just laughed. I'm counting down the time till I get the "Can I crash at yours for a few days please?" call.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

"She put on a brave face, but ouch... Death by a thousand cuts"