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mg scales

ponch said:
I have a set of these:
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Never had a problem with them, have to make sure they are calibrated often though.
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Yeah I'm sorry I lied when I said I had the same one as Albion, that's the one I've got! I had the HA-20 but I broke it in a drug-crazed frenzy.

Although they're so similar I wouldn't be surprised if the insides are identical.

I find having a set of reference weights is pretty handy, this one comes with a 10g reference and my Acculab came with 20g (or was it 100g? Think it might have been). But I've got references down to 5mg, helps with the confidence.
 
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But we're always happy to answer questions in there :)

I bought the cheapest set I could find on ebay, to compare to my professional ones.

It was the same set as ponch, except without the logo, and it actually compared really well. I would be quite comfortable weighing things over 20-30mg with it, and anything less you can just use volumetric dosing.

They did start break after about 6 months though, they now just say FULL quite angrily when switched on.
 
ponch said:
I have a set of these:
gemini-20_main.jpg


Never had a problem with them, have to make sure they are calibrated often though.
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I've got these too. Think I paid about a tenner for em

They're not bad, but I don't like the little bowl thing. It's too textured and powders stick to it way too easily, which also makes things hard to measure for tiny amounts. you always have to have a flat surface like a baggie on top of it and drop your powder onto that, which isn't always convenient and makes things more fiddly
 
I paid £50 (yes FIFTY) pounds for some 0.01 (10mg) scales over 10 years ago.

They are still as accurate as they ever were.

I have no problem weighing 2c's on them.

A mate bought a set of £6 0.01 scales off internet last year. They were inaccurate at the start, and now they don't work at all.
 
Marmalade said:
I've got these too. Think I paid about a tenner for em

They're not bad, but I don't like the little bowl thing. It's too textured and powders stick to it way too easily, which also makes things hard to measure for tiny amounts. you always have to have a flat surface like a baggie on top of it and drop your powder onto that, which isn't always convenient and makes things more fiddly
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Yeah the little bowl thing is a bit crap, mine came sellotaped in to the box on the weighing side so it had all sticky residue on it which isn't ideal for weighing stuff out. I fold a small square of paper into quarters across the diagonal so it forms a little paper bowl and weigh on that, works pretty well and is easy to pass around or whatever.
 
Transform said:
But we're always happy to answer questions in there :)
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Sorry to say this but............all my posts before on PD or AD have gone into "chemisty porn"
stuff like "The 4 carbon chain cant be taken to 561-679APZZXV position, with a extra radom atom attached at the 3-4 positioon a extra carbon chain may be possible"

May as well be in Chinese for me tbh
 
Marmalade said:
I've got these too. Think I paid about a tenner for em

They're not bad, but I don't like the little bowl thing. It's too textured and powders stick to it way too easily, which also makes things hard to measure for tiny amounts. you always have to have a flat surface like a baggie on top of it and drop your powder onto that, which isn't always convenient and makes things more fiddly
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Use a folded square of greaseproof / baking paper to sit on the weighing pan and add the powder to, powder won't stick to it and makes it easier to get at. (I have a set of those scales aswell and they are alright and have lasted years)
 
@Ceres

Maybe this aint the right place & if not we can take it to PM but can you give EADD a basic idea of how this works?.......

Take for example PCP, you have normal PCP, 3-MeO, 4-MeO. Why does it end with 4MeO, why can't it go on & on forever?
 
farmaz said:
@Ceres

Maybe this aint the right place & if not we can take it to PM but can you give EADD a basic idea of how this works?.......

Take for example PCP, you have normal PCP, 3-MeO, 4-MeO. Why does it end with 4MeO, why can't it go on & on forever?
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It's because there are a limited number of positions that the Methoxy group can be attached to on the benzene ring in PCP :

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The benzene ring is made of 6 carbon atoms, so there are 6 positions around it that other atoms can be bonded to. The 1-position is taken up with the bond connecting it to the rest of the molecule, leaving 5 positions free for substitution.

Because the whole benzene ring can rotate freely around the single bond connecting it to the rest of the molecule, a substitution at the 5-position is actually the same as a substitution at the 3-position, and 6-position is the same as the 2-position.

So really you can only have 2-(something)-PCP, 3-(something)-PCP and 4-(something)-PCP.
 
I actually understand, I am shocked tbh.

Is it the same for all chemicals as in having 6 positions?.........

Serious thanks Ceres, I know I sound dumb by not understanding but I guess it would be like me trying to tell someone that's not into music about the way bass frequency works or sound in general.

"Why do you feel bass more than hear it when it's low?" - I would have to run down on Hz & how bass etc works on the human body & levels of human hearing etc etc etc...............
I mean it, thanks for taking the time, it means alot to me :)

More scat pics too btw ;)
 
farmaz said:
Serious thanks Ceres, I know I sound dumb by not understanding but I guess it would be like me trying to tell someone that's not into music about the way bass frequency works or sound in general.

"Why do you feel bass more than hear it when it's low?" - I would have to run down on Hz & how bass etc works on the human body & levels of human hearing etc etc etc...............
I mean it, thanks for taking the time, it means alot to me :)

More scat pics too btw ;)
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I could tell you just about any pharmacology or chemistry question you'd be likely to ask butI don't know the first thing about bass frequencies - just that my brain likes them. Everyone in PD is aware that not everyone studied chemistry and will be quite happy to simplify things for you. the only stupid question is the one that isn't asked.
 
Ooh, thanks Ceres, I actually understood that. Chemistry's not my strong point. :D

Anyhow.. Would I be optimistic in hoping for a scale below £50 that could measure small mg quantities (5-15mg of 2cb, for example)? I'm suspecting so...
 
Albion said:
I have a set of these:

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'HA-20 Digital Scales 0.001g'

please get a check weight set down to 10mg. Do not rely on the weight that (sometimes) comes with the scale.
My .001 scale says .010 mg is .013 but I would never know without the 10mg check weight. I got my check weight set
for $5.99 (us $) on sale on e-bay or amazon
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Are say 10/20mg reference weights easily available on ebay and the like?
Do you guys use mini spatulas? I think the smallest I'll be measuring will be about 15mg, so I got 0.001 scales.


BTW @ the bass thing: Because the sound waves are at the same frequency at which organs & other bodily parts' natural frequencies (natural frequency is the frequency something will oscillate at without a driving force) they will resonate and therefore move with maximum amplitude / maximum energy transfer. This is why you can feel the ground shake and your belly wobble around monster trucks.
 
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