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Methylone vs. Mephedrone Megathread

I'd just like to add my thoughts to this comparison. Partly because I have recently tried both drugs for the very first time, but mainly, because I'm currently high as heaven trying to find something to focus on.

Firstly, I've done MDMA in the past and it's magical. Don't think you will achieve this with either of these two substances. Combining doesn't work either. HOWEVER, both are excellent drugs in their own right and both are so far ahead of current street pills and coke in the UK. By a very long way.

A few observations:

Mephedrone:
(1) A little bit will do you. I honestly believe the problems in the media at the moment are due to teenagers hoovering it up like it's 15% pure street coke. It's not, it's 100% pure which makes variances in dosage absolutely critical. Buy some scales ffs, and don't get killed. It's quite simple. Anyway, I digress(!), 100mg - 200mg injested should do you for a good few hours. Try not to redose it, take something else instead (Methylone!). From my experience, the second dose rarely prolong things, but simply serves to increase the stimulation keep you up for longer.
(2) It's a body euphoria drug for me. It feels great when high. Jaw clencing is a bit of a problem but simply pop a couple of magnesium tablets prior to a session. This should sort you out a treat.
(3) This is what coke should be. Use this in small doses in social situations when you would normally have coke.

Methylone:

(1) No here's a substance. A decent 200mg dose injested will have you high for about 3 hours. It's the kind of high that you get from a street pill. You know, the high that's over within 10 mins and then quickly replaced by an overwhelming need to vomit?? It's that good. Again, no 'magic' like MDMA, but it is seriously better than any pill I've ever had.
(2) Redosing is even more pointless with this one. You can prolong things slightly but snorting is terrible with this drug, and so you'd have to get your timings just right to drop, which is tough.
(3) This is drug is the same high as about 3 or 4 pills, without the messy additives which leave you feeling, well, dead. Use these when going out, or when you just want to chill to some music for a few hours. I've found this drug a bit less sociable than Mephedrone. Less empathy.


All in all - WOW. Stock up before they ban it. Not a MDMA substitute though. I've done pure (or close to), and it was the best night of my entire life by quite a long way. These substances are however significantly better than most pills and coke in the UK.
 
I NUK3D U said:
Methylone:

(1) Again, no 'magic' like MDMA, but it is seriously better than any pill I've ever had.
(2) Redosing is even more pointless with this one.
(3) I've found this drug a bit less sociable than Mephedrone. Less empathy.
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speaking as a methylone lover...

(1) perhaps i am misunderstanding, but that seems like a contradiction. you haven't had any ecstasy that was better than methylone? really?

(2) i disagree, somewhat. i think one redose is totally worth it, 1-2 hours after the first. 250mg + 250mg and no more is perfect, in my experience. but no more.

(3) i disagree, totally. funny how people are different, eh? :D

don't you get the jaw clenching on methylone as well? it's the only downside for me, i get it really bad, even after gobbling lots of magnesium.
 
felix said:
speaking as a methylone lover...

(1) perhaps i am misunderstanding, but that seems like a contradiction. you haven't had any ecstasy that was better than methylone? really?

(2) i disagree, somewhat. i think one redose is totally worth it, 1-2 hours after the first. 250mg + 250mg and no more is perfect, in my experience. but no more.

(3) i disagree, totally. funny how people are different, eh? :D

don't you get the jaw clenching on methylone as well? it's the only downside for me, i get it really bad, even after gobbling lots of magnesium.
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Hi Felix

(1) Sorry, wasn't clear. MDMA makes up quite a small part of most street pills. I haven't had a pill that was better than a decent dose of M1. Pure MDMA (crystals) however is what I was referring to as being majical.

(2) I do actually agree with you here based on a more recent experience. I would still suggest a redose of 4-MMC is pretty pointless (only serves to increase negative effects), but yes, a redose of M1 does definitely prolong.

(3) Yeah, funny. Having done both again since my previous post, I remain of the view that M1 is less empathetic. I suppose a lot is about your surroundings and the people you're with. I've found that I'm not paranoid on either drug, but when I was round new(ish) people the other day, I started thinking that they were all undercover cops (!!!), and I complete shut down socially despite being extremely high!!


What do you think about my comments about the dangers of Mephedrone? I'd be interested to hear your views. Do you agree that it's a safe drug in medium-size single doses??
 
I NUK3D U said:
. I've found that I'm not paranoid on either drug, but when I was round new(ish) people the other day, I started thinking that they were all undercover cops (!!!), and I complete shut down socially despite being extremely high!!
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The undercover cop thing has been experienced by my friends and I whilst on methlyone...the paranoia is the single biggest reason why I want to stop taking mephedrone and methylone as it kills the night if I cannot relax properly
 
this may be me being stupid here but ive only recently heard the proper names of them but is the Methylone and mephedrone combo called dundees\bubbles as well??

oh and on comedown is it jus me or they only appear when you snort it??(mkat)
 
that makes no sense, you may feel shitter if u been snorting just cuz your sinuses hurt but the comedown will not be dependant on the ROA....IMHO
 
mephedrone is a great drug, i just tried methylone today. i prefr mephedrone cos *snip*. methylone i just did my first line today, it much like mephedrone it seems, just a lot stronger and you wont have to do much.

i went on a week binge with meph me and 3-4 other people did 30G in around 7-8 days. its almost the same feeling just with mephedrone you seem to be able to socially and mechanically function better. and you can choose when you come down where or not to redose, methylone seems you just have to take the buzz for however its gonna last.

its hard to compare the two, i did 100mg of methylone, seems like i did .5mg of mephedrone, and its lasting longer... i dont feel on methylone i can function in society or around family, mephedrone i can. also methylone feels more like the euphoric feel ive been looking for since the good e pills dissapeared.

all in all they both have ups and downs, i say its a tie.

i should also add i took 3 denver brand 2mg xanax at 7am, and a suboxone at 8. dose methylone at 130pm est. i had to blow my nose and clean it out so i can drive, otherwise id never be able to drive, i guess i thought it would be more like mephedrone and just last longer, but its really stonger and longer! just my opinion -renzo
 
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RLP said:
Based on that babble, you should really stop taking drugs.
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cant make any promises, as your opinion or thought do not matter to me, but i can try to not post WHILE on drugs. i just seen where some of my words didnt type out right due to haveing a greasemonkey script running in 3 other tabs, that kinda made it looke bad, that it wasnt babble.

maybe the guy who reads an entire post of what he considers babble should get a life?
 
BenzoLorenzo said:
methylone i just did my first line today, it much like mephedrone it seems, just a lot stronger and you wont have to do much.
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FYI snorted methylone is shit. You really need to take it orally to fully appreciate it. 150-175 mg is a good place to start.

It really is infinitely superior to mephedrone.
 
BenzoLorenzo said:
i went on a week binge with meph me and 3-4 other people did 30G in around 7-8 days.
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wow. that's stupid.


i did m1 once and didn't feel anything at all. maybe because I've done mdpv the day before or because I snorted it. anyway, did two lines and then decided that it's boring.
meph is ok but I dislike the fact that it's so "obvious". and i always get bad come downs/ strong paranoia. at the moment I don't have access to benzos so I wouldn't even touch meph.
 
Did about 100mg of methylone snorted earlier today. Small amount but good enough to make me feel comfortable and chatty at the mall with random chicks for about 2 hours, no "lovey-dovey" feelings though, oh well.

Anyways, I got strange symptoms from it today. The skin on the palms of my hands and my lips became really dry and flaky and peeled in random places, my vision was unfocused and delayed, and during the comedown, aside from feeling "blah", the joints in my fingers felt very loose and bony with a pins/needles sensation that came and went for about 6 hours. Scariest part was about an hour ago, I left a diner and as I'm walking to my car, I felt like my arms and face were brushing against spiderwebs. I get in my car and as I'm driving, it feels like there are parasites swimming under my skin. I managed not to panic and I turned up my music and opened my windows to distract myself. After about 15 minutes, the weird creepy-crawly sensation subsided.

I feel as though I'm slowly doing damage to myself despite my very light use. I've only used 3g of meph and approx 1.5g of methylone total within the past 24 months, I don't smoke or use any drugs (illegal nor legal), and prior to this, I drank socially once a month with buddies from work at the bar.

Never read about anyone having these types of symptoms on methylone other than the comedown and feeling wired afterwards. Any ideas as to what methylone is doing that could cause symptoms like these?
 
Snorting methylone is shite. That doesn't really explain what happened to you, though. Perhaps you got some crap methylone, or it's just really not for you.
 
Less is definitely more with methylone. Lower doses produce euphoria while large doses feel like you've taken about half a gram of ephedrine. I'd say 225mg is about the cut-off point. Strangely you dont feel any less fucked on 180mg as you would on 250mg, the euphoria is just a lot more pronounced and not swamped by uncomfortable stimulation. Redosing works better after lower doses too and if you time and dose everything perfectly you can squeeze aaaaaalmost as much euphoria out of it as MDMA. Don't expect the floaty feeling of utter bliss you get on mandy though, methylone is definitely more of a 'fun' drug.

I'd say the high of methylone is better but mephedrone has less side effects and comedown for me, and works for longer with redosing. It's a tough call :\
 
I tried methylone a while back and i enjoyed it, doubt i would again though:)Ive stayed clear of mephedrone lately, no good meph flying about this area
 
Methylone

Just read up on this and according to Wikipedia :

Methylone resembles MDMA in its behavioural profile, as it substitutes for MDMA in rats trained to discriminate MDMA from saline

Just wondering if anyone knows why this drug has not been as popular as Mephedrone ?
 
cos it does not last as long as MDMA so you could not go out all night on it. and was not great for redosing. just my opinion
 
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