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Methylone dosing strategies?

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infantannihilator

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Hey everyone, I'm going to be acquiring a few grams of this hopefully before the weekend and I'm wondering what people do for dosing? I've read about it and its differences between mdma, and the fact that some people love it, some people hate it, etc. I know generally what I am getting into, and I know that the peak doesn't last as long, something like 2-3 hours vs 5 of mdma (though truthfully I never found mdma to 'peak' that long which leads me to believe that my mileage may vary and/or that different people have very different definitions of what may or may not be a peak).

Anyway I got into another cathinone 4mmc recently and I found like an oral dose of 100-200mg with 30mg bumps every hourish when I felt the rushyness fading provided for a good long night of fun. I am anticipating taking a similar strategy with methylone and am wondering what your thoughts are?

Despite the apparent sinus damage due to the incredible burn, I absolutely love snorting 4mmc.. its not overly horrible and lasts a short time but I find it to be very very exhilarating and wonder if I may find the same from methylone?

I don't see a lot of reports of methylone use like this, but back in my teen days I would actually treat mdma in a similar manner, so I assume things should translate pretty well to methlyone although obviously with slightly different effects

Thoughts? Ideas?
 
We were getting 300mg caps being passed off as mdma, they fooled a lot of people but the peak of the high was just never there. A mate dropped 4 of them in one go, he ended up spewing, though, wreckless fucker. People just kept doing more and more trying to get that mdma high that never eventuated. Gets quite trippy at higher doses. A second rate and mostly useless substance imo.
 
speak for yourself...

doing 600mg in one night with redosing put me into true euphoria and ecstacy almost feeling like a god basically and with ultimate flirtation skills

the downside for me is the comedown, which is sometimes, quite bluntly, almost suicidal, at least in my experience

this can be avoided by keeping it to approx 400mg max a sesh and spacing out M1 experiences by a month at least

it is seriously a very empathetic, and loving drug, i dont think ive been that loved up off of mdma b4, also as a side note m1 can be pretty vasoconstrictive, and the dry mouth and gurning can be pretty serious, magnesium could help combat some of that~
 
WI wouldn't snort it. The effects are short lived as itis. Also snorting enhances the stim effects and mutes the empathy.

I typically start with 300 mg and redose with the same amount. This does leave some uncomfortable and long lived residual stimulation. It would be beneficial to have some benzos on hand if you expect to exceed two doses. Typically I end up at three doses due to the short duration of effects.

Aside from the residual stimulation this is a wonderfully erotic substance. It's mdma and cocaine combined.
 
Wow, these doses are high. 8o (Of course, now that methylone is illegal as MDMA, maybe more is cut these days.)

In the "legal RC" days it seems like the standard dose for methylone was 150-170mg, with many not recommending going over 180-200mg. Also, unlike MDMA, I haven't heard many reports saying that redoses are worthwhile, though I've heard some people have success with top-offs.

(I've always been a one and done, 160mg, on this one.)
 
The comedown on this one fucking hurts.
Maybe it's because when I do it I always chase the mdma high and end up going through a gram of the shit in like 6 hours.
It's no mdma, I don't really like the stuff.
I've been sitting on 5 grams for awhile now and haven't done it in months
 
Such a tricky compound, such brevity. I've found matching the attack dose just right after the peak hits works okay. Haven't gone over 450 mg in an evening (that was 2 redoses) though; y'all munters cray.

ebola
 
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I was. Learn to read imo..
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lol, I agree.

But I take issue with your notion that this is a "second rate and mostly useless substance." I gather that you mean this when compared to MDMA with the premise that its somehow trying to replicate its effects. While it may have come about as an alternative to the whole illegality issue of MDMA, I personally don't really like comparing drugs in this manner. I liken it to those who deem the whole phenethylamine compounds as being second rate and mostly useless substances in comparison to LSD. I think they're all unique in their own ways, and as substances affect everyone slightly differently some people actually rather like these newer 'second rate' substances compared to what they're supposedly trying to replicate.

Either way, I wasn't trying to open a discussion about whether or not its good or bad.

Anyway, I noticed someone mention its like MDMA and cocaine, which is kinda exactly how I feel about 4mmc. I rather like 4mmc, and while I don't expect methylone to be the same, I figure based on everything I've read its going to be likely similar.

As I said my strategy I came to like with 4mmc is taking a bomb and then supporting it with bumps at the peak and throughout the rest of the night. I don't really think there is any drug where you can recreate the exact peak over and over again within close proximity of the initial dose, so ultimately thats not really what I am after.

What I like about 4mmc in that even though its 'mooreish' as people like to put it, I don't feel its like cocaine in that respect at all. For me cocaine doesnt really seem to have any sort of peak and no matter what I always find myself trying to chase something and then ending up higher than I really think I am.. there are rushes of sorts but I felt with 4mmc that these are more tangible feelings and maybe its just the burn or psychosomatic, but I found snorting it as I said to be rather exhilerating and uplifting..

I'm not after an mdma replacement, if I really wanted mdma I could just go get some. As I said I realize the whole reason it came about was as a semi legal alternative, but every drug has its pros and cons and ups and downs and its own little unique attributes that some may love and others may hate and I guess only I can determine what works for me..

I guess I'll find out lol

Thanks guys
 
Well stuff didnt arrive last week, I just got it today. Figures the one time I want stuff by a certain date it doesnt get shipped out to me within 2 days lol.

Now im toyin with trying some tonight.. I dont wanna be up all night.. I dont have any benzos or anything either, just a single 50mg dph left which doesnt do much to me normally.

want to bomb since everyone seems to say thats the best, but tempting to just rail some since I dont wanna be up all night

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T8:30 200mg down the hatch. Dissolved freely in room temperature water, no cloudiness or sheen noticed to the liquid and would not have been able to discern there was anything in it except for the sharp reassuring and somewhat delightful chemical taste

as of this moment my legs are beginning to feel like jelly and there is stimulation as bouncing them around at my chair feels kinda good or natural if you will.. and away we go ;)

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t+40mins elevated heartrate, slight vasoconstriction, nothing major but I can feel my hands cold, feeling what I can only describe as reverberations in my body but nothing really affecting me mentally yet (if it does happen). no pupil dialation noticed, however, I did notice that when I leaned into the mirror my pupils rapidly increased in size.. this could just be a perception distortion but I think its real, however I've never noticed this before, maybe I never thought to look. I assume the lack of light reaching my eyes when I leaned in and came out of direct view of the lights over head would cause them to dilate more, but I never expected it to happen so rapidly.. come to think of it now, some mental affects occuring as I'm writing like a storm here when I meant for this to just be a simple jot note. hah. based on how I am feeling I will add a 50mg attack dose at t+1h depending on how the affects build over the next 15-20 mins

t+1h insufflated 63mg, couldn't be arsed to take out the 13mg, plus it was a solid rock. Crushed down into a very fine white powder. snorted it tastes delicious.. and pretty much no burn at all, a slight twinge once it settled into my sinuses. I can feel it back there and in the back of my throat.. very nice. pretty jittery and some jaw tension setting into effect.

t+1:15 drip doesnt taste the best, eye jitters, id say im pretty high, but there is an astounding bit of mental clarity as if I were sober. beginning to understand what people say when they say that it doesnt really materialize. i think this would probably mix well with 4mmc.. and will be trying this the next time, however I still have a few more hours to go to form a final opinion.
 
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That's why I prefer a .3 bomb right off the rip. It gets me where I like to be. Anything less is a tease for me. M1 does hit really fast. No need to horn it.
 
If by horn you mean snort, well, I just kinda have a thing for snorting, I really enjoy it.. its just psychological I guess, but Ive always enjoyed it.

Plus, this being my first time I figured starting with 200mg which is about the ballpark range a lot of people use it at would be best. I admit I kinda threw harm reduction out the window by not doing an allergy test, but I already know that I take well to cathinones, and even though I know whats true of one isnt true of another, I felt confident. I guess slightly reckless if you want to really judge :o

Anyway, the tpyical mdma jaw clenging and dry lip licking moving is affecting me now. Im feeling crazy empathy and made a number of insights while I was in the shower, which I might add felt absolutely fucking amazing.

edit: so its been 2hours so far and severe dry mouth has set in
 
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