Methylone (bk-MDMA) turned bad?

[borega]

Hi there,

I have been keeping a small stash of Methylon for some special occaisions. I keep it in tightly screwed glass vial (brown glas) and in a draw. The exposure to light and/or heat is kept as minimal as possible. Storage temp. would be around 18°C.

When optaining the substance in March 2012 the results were as expected. A nice roll for about 3-5h with a stimy afterglow and no comedown rly (exept that the good feelings went away but nothing other than that)
Recently I and a fellow Person had another go with it. The initial results were as expected. The roll was great but when it came to the end of the trip it became a desaster! We both had bad cardiac problems (feeling realy dissy, nausua, sweating etc.). Both of us didnt dose very high (150mg) and we had a good meal before the roll and kept hidrated with water and juices. We both took a magnisium suplement while rolling and evan managed to eat some candybars and some bannanas. Thats why id say it wasnt just a normal bad comedown.

Is it possible, that the Methylon has degraded in some parts and as a result turned toxic or into smth. that is very hard on the cardiac system?
Is there a way, other than GS/MS, NMR and other very technical testing methods, for me to find out if smth. has changed?

Best regards and thx for any Help

 

[PhyllipThylamine]

As I understand it, Methylone is a pure chemical that, provided the conditions are perfect, does not degrade at all. If there was something in your Methylone that degraded to cause the effects you describe I suspect it might have brought an effect that differs from a normal Methylone trip. In most cases something degrades to inactvity, rather than some unpleasant action.

Obviously, without a proper GCMS test of your compound, no-one can be sure exactly what you've got & as such it's near impossible to explain the cardiac events.

One other possible cause is psychosomatic. Perhaps one of you suffered some miild anxiety (which often manifests with chest pain or headache) & the other empathically picked up on it & "caught" it, so to speak.

 

[borega]

First off, Thx for your post!
I can rule out psychosomatic as with other ppl. that tested this batch reaktions were reported to be similar. But i dont know the testingconditions with them...
Anyway i thank you for ur help. If anyone else has smth to contribute it would be highly apriciated

 

[electrodevo]

Is it possible, that the Methylon has degraded in some parts and as a result turned toxic or into smth. that is very hard on the cardiac system?

Methylone, while milder than some, is not easy on the cardiac system. You really would have to go over what everyone was taking / eating / etc. Both stimulant wise, and also anything that could possibly cause serotonin syndrome, to see if there is any common ground with these reactions.

Cathinones do seem to have a habit of polymerizing into a yellow sort of compound over time, but if anything this would make the product less active not more, I would think, and may not have happened at all under your storage conditions.