Methylone (bk-MDMA) and MDxx combo.

[thestudent14]

So I have for the weekend, both Methylone (bk-MDMA) and some Yellow clovers. MDEA-Medium dose.

Now I don't really have enough Methylone for a BIG night out. Nor do I have enough clovers. So I wanna do em both. My other option is to try to swap with mates and have a couple clovers but no methylone or vice verser. But I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I WILL be trying this on saturday haha.

I imagine MDxx and M1 should compliment each other quite well at the correct doses, as they react with the body in similar ways. As a rule I prefer to start the night strong and not have any more pick me ups through the night, but when trying new combo's I'm a bit more cautious. Say the clovers are 80mg, ppl have speculated they are 100 but I'm skeptical. And then M1 is in large caps apparently having 200mg each.

Most ppl say 250mg bk-MDMA roughly equals 100mg MDMA. So I'm feeling if I drop them both together should hit around the 150mg mark which would set me just fine for the night.

Or would I be better off having one first and then dropping the other. And maybe having one more of one of them after a couple hours or so.

I also can get my hands on some pretty good quality whip (Not shard, just strong speed) If I was to have any of this it wouldn't be until a few hours afterwards to perk myself back up.


I want peoples stories of past experiences, aswell as Harm Reduction advice. But I'd also like people to say how they'd approach it without thinking too much about the HR.


I'm pretty set to try this combo out so unless I hear some real horror stories I will be trying this.
Cheers team xD

 

[headdah]

M1 is one of my hatest drugs ever. I mean the high is alright. (lacks the special ZING that mdma has) Always get a wicked wicked wicked come down off it. NO idea why. I just do. I mean worse than a come down from a 6day ICE ICE BABY bender.

But i think this combo might just work good for you brother. I've always wondered how this would go down when i had M1 around,but there was never Mandy around to test this out.

I reckon you will have a wicked wicked night brother

HR wise. Just watch out on your dosage etc, serotonin syndrome is a bitch YO

Def report back ^^

 

[thestudent14]

Come down may be a bitch. But hey, I don't work until 4 in the arvo on Monday so I think I'll be sweet. thats a big Ice bender btw. Whip leavers me more scattered then any other drug. I was awake for 3 days and I came down like a bitch a few weeks ago off the stuff.

But M1 and MDxx have all been good to me in the past.

 

[kroniic]

Alex Shulgin said that bk-MDMA aka M1 is about the 1/3rd the potency of MDMA, very similar, but doesn't leave you as brain dead on the high, I find it a great social drug (you can hold very intelligent conversations on it), the neurotoxicity is also less on bk-MDMA, the only bitch is staying awake for hours after TS14, so get some Xanies handy. I found once you do sleep, you wake up with no hangover.

bk-MDMA x MDEA would be a weird combination, as people find MDEA very "smacky" while M1 gives you more of a charge. Let us know how you go.

 

[grugz]

honestly what i would do is drop clovers first as per usual, and then use M1 as little bumps to keep going, instead of all at once.

reason is because M1 does have a shorter effect due to its structure (doesnt bind as long to some receptor i think), hence the higher dose required, so it would be useful to 'prolong' the clovers

In a HR viewpoint, i would suggest to be quite cautious with mixing M1 with any other serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine releaser, as m1 for soem reason does act as a releaser as well as a reuptake inhibitor, so can flood the brain with too much serotonin. hence why i suggest to take it after teh clovers are starting to wear off, to prevent too much release of serotonin

oh yeh cant sleep after m1 either bitch to sleep.... bitch to sleep after any pills which arent mdxx...... either have a few bongs ready or benzo

 

[ooh.shiny]

Hmm, I don't know about those pills, I haven't bought anything since March 2010, but have been doing bk-mdma instead. I agree with grugz... if the clovers are the goods I'd drop them first.

Speed keeps me up too... One line and I'll have trouble sleeping for days. Ugh!

I'm curious to see how you go

 

[grugz]

Also to my point, mdea (clovers) release serotonin, so by time they start wearing off n its time for m1 you sorta jave the reuptake inhibitor as alot has already been released, n be less to be released n better to inhibit uptake....if you kimda get what I mean....

 

[thestudent14]

Rage!

Didn't end up getting the clovers, so I didn't get to try this combo after all =(
Still had a sweet nite on M1 though. Thanks for your advice anyway team.
It's still something I plan on trying in the future so if I ever do I'll re-boot this thread haha.