methylone and 2c-e ?

[dice101]

hey would it be safe to do 10mg of 2c-e then wait 2hours and insullfate 75-100 mgs on methylone? Does anyone know if this is a good combo? and if 10mgs of 2c-e is a good starting dose for someones first time or should he do 5-7mgs ?

 

[stom10]

2C-E has a very sharp dose/response curve, especially when snorting. 10mg for a first time is a very heavy dose. I'd definitely work up to that. Start with 3-6 mg, and lower your dose of methylone from your usual. The 2C-E on its own just might be enough. Also be prepared for some horrific nose pain from snorting the 2C-E. You could always try plugging a similar dose to reduce the pain / side effects.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

No one's snorting 2C-E. It should be safe AFAIK, as I don't recall any 2C-T-7+MDMA tales with 2C-E, but remember this: Both drugs are very new and relatively unexplored on their own, much less taken in conjunction with each other.

 

[dice101]

yeah im gonna take the 2c-e orally. Do you think that 10mgs of 2c-e would be a good starinting does for someones first time if they are experienced with lsd and shrooms and x.

 

[stom10]

Oh oops, I spaced out and read 2C-E and insufflated in the same sentence and somehow paired them.

10 mgs orally seems like a rather reasonable dose. Though I haven't explictly heard of this combination in particular, I've never heard of 2C-E having a particularly "toxic" interaction with anything. It might be a bit more intense than you bargained for with those two substances separately, but since 10 mgs of 2C-E is a rather low end "standard" dose, I think you're pretty safe.

I would say, take the 2C-E and see where the trip takes you. If after ~2 hours, you feel in control and desire the methylone, then by all means, insufflate a bit and go from there.

 

[egor]

Its a really good combo actually, goes quite well with 5-meo-dmt at the peak

 

[dice101]

Thanks for the info guys and the 5-meo-dmt part man I wont touch that ever again the last time I did it was when I was on like 5 hits of L and my friend just told me to hit a pipe and I figured it was jus tree but yeah it was dmt man I coulda killed him but yeah I dont think Ill do it again any time soon but thanks for verifing that its a good combo.

 

[Riklet]

I wouldn't snort M1/methylone, disolve it in a drink and have that, it's far nicer and smoother orally. Personally, I find M1 can have a short duration and a nasty crash, so really take that into account if you're doing a powerful psychedelic like 2c-e. It might be better towards the end of the trip... you don't want to be wired and agitated whilst tripping for hours more.

 

[dice101]

yeah thats what i was just thinking like it would prolly be better to do at +4-5 but it looks like Ill have a lil while to figure shit out since I cant find anyone to do the 2c-e with me.

 

[Xtc <3]

Thinking of attempting this combo soon, 22mg 2c-e followed by 200mg of methylone at the peak.
Can anyone else confirm that this is a good combo?

 

[bartlebooth]

Thinking of attempting this combo soon, 22mg 2c-e followed by 200mg of methylone at the peak.
Can anyone else confirm that this is a good combo?

Several friends and various cohorts I've met have tried this combo. Not sure why it is so popular amongst people I've discussed this with as it doesn't seem to be an appealing combo to me. However, recently a peer of mine whom I have the utmost respect for, as regards experiences with RCs, has rejuvenated my interest in this combo.

In summary, what this person explained to me is that first of all you have to accept that the combo will yield something that is not "the best of both worlds." You will likely have an experience that is unique compared to either of these RCs on their own, and that means there is some give and take.

It seems the 2C-E loses more of it's character than the methylone in this combo in this friend's experiences. The OEVs, he says, becomes far more focused - still beautiful, but not nearly as imaginative. CEVs on the other hand remain more or less the same as a regular 2C-E experience without as much potential for dark territory - although, honestly the dark territory offers some of the most dazzling CEVs...

On one occasion he claims to have reached a ++++ and felt as if he were communing with ancestors telepathically and felt his heritage all the way back to hunter-gatherer times. However, he also said the methylone comedown on this combo is very crushing (having taken the methylone 2 hours after the 2C-E). When the methylone begins to taper off, it's as if he was dropped from a cliff into a state of complete non-feeling and indifference. If he weren't a stronger person, he tells me that he would likely have dove right into a methylone redosing binge.

Additionally, he claims the 2C-E trip seems to suffer a short life-span in this combo, more or less ending around the 6 hour mark rather than the usual 10 hours. Finally, he said that he felt his cardio-vascular system was ravished by this combo. Still, for him, he feels the benefits of this combo at least balance with the negatives if this combo is only attempted very infrequently.

One final comment - his doses of both were about the same as what you have suggested, although with 20mg of 2C-E rather than 22mg. Personally I'm surprised he did 20mg, but my advice to you would be to consider a lower dose of 2C-E at least. 2mg can make a HUGE difference - plenty of BL posts will back this up. I'd even venture to say that you should consider something on the order of 12-15mg. You know your body best - just be careful.

 

[daltonprince]

I dropped 17mg 2c-e with 200mg methylone orally without staggering the doses at a festival and it was unreal. Added that with a few nitrous chargers here and there, would strongly recommend this. It was definitely a little overwhelming, and the body high is a little weird, but I was dancing my ass off all night. Would maybe recommend staggering the doses or not doing as much if you aren't with good friends who you know have your back and arent going to get too fucked up themselves. Don't plan on sleeping though, the high lasted me 12 hours on an empty stomach .

 

[Swimmingdancer]

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