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methylone-1st time

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Ingested 170 mg of methylone on a full stomach, had drank 3 small glasses of wine over the course of the evening.
Felt the first alert within 15 minutes, very much like an mdma comeup: fluttery stomach, electricity rushing through the body, vision starts to blur and mildly empathogenic feelings toward others begin to surface rapidly. :)
During the first hour there is a marked upward rise, I want to listen more than talk and overall felt very serene and centered but not really euphoric. As others on this site and elsewhere have mentioned, there was no mdma 'push' and I didn't miss it.
Spent the next four hours talking with friends and thought that the methylone broadened our conversation, made everything very comfortable and cozy. I felt frequent waves of contentment and happiness washing over/through me for about 2.5 hours. The come-down seemed to consist of the waves of contentment coming less and less frequently (to my disappointment) yet I retained a steady level of underlying stimulation without emotion. I really wanted to prolong the good feeling, even though it's not even one of the best feelings I have ever had, and thought about taking more. Of course I knew this was a useless proposition and so I just went along with the descent. At about the 4 hour mark I blinked my eyes and realized I was too tired to think and had to get into bed immediately.
I snuggled in bed with my SO for another hour or so (which was really enhanced) then fell into a dreamless sleep.

When I wake up 7 hours later, I totally feel like I am tripping...much harder than I was the previous evening! The ceiling and my skin look rather like they are made of a million tiny dots and I get very uneasy. I am horribly panic-stricken by the notion that I accidentally dosed 170 mg DOC instead of methylone because I feel so altered. I really panic-- my heart beating wildly, shallow breathing--and try to make certain I didn't make such a mistake even though the notion is totally illogical because no one else who dosed with me feels like this and I have everything clearly labeled. I even do a marquis test and it is the methylone reaction, so I start to calm down a bit and just start doing things that don't take any concentration...like household chores, all the while feeling incredibly shaky but trying not to think about it. I eat a sandwich and start to calm down, have a headache. I don't feel entirely normal until about 3 hours later.

Overall, I am not so sure how well the methylone treated me. My friends seemed to gain more pleasure from the experience than I did and the strange irrational panic attack I had the day after suggests that this chemical may not agree with me. I found myself missing a certain depth and was wishing something more profound would manifest itself. Nonetheless, it was really fun at times and I would possibly--if I am honest, probably--do it again (maybe a smaller dose?).
 
What a strange reaction... especially so much later, and after sleeping.

If you're like me, you'll like methylone more each time you do it. Nice report!
 
Thanks for your reply, I'll probably try again in a few weeks at a smaller dose, just to see if there are any wierd lingering after-effects...and because it felt really good in some ways.

My uncharacteristic panic attack the morning after was really unexpected and that's what made me write the report, I'm curious if others have had a similar experience. I know that many folks feel lingering effects of drugs the day after ingestion so that part is not surprising--what is surprising is how panicky I got--how quickly I lost control of my emotions.
I am not totally convinced this can specifically be related to the methylone consumption though.
 
I haven't had a panic attack at all from it... I just get a cracked-out feeling at about 2 hours when the euphoria starts to drop off and I feel like I want more. But that has faded significantly the last few times I tried it. Also, I found a dose of 200mg to be more uniformly pleasant and worthwhile than a smaller dose. Likewise, 170mg was better than 150mg. 100mg was actually the least pleasant dose I took... all of the side effects were present with very little of the positive effects. Take that for what you will, but it was my experience.
 
Methylone is well active at 20-30mg, probably even less. . . I like to take just that, and then add 70-80 within half an hour later in order to spread the come-up and thus the high. It hits much, much harder on an empty stomach than wehn full (when full, 100mg may not get me really "there")... and when I feel like it's the peak and it first starts fading as little, I add up to another whopping 120-150mg (sometimes less...) to go even deeper into the Methylone high. I then comes on so strong it's all good.

I can confirm the fiending morish feeling that comes towards comedown. Redosing more than once is definitely unwise though, I have used 400-600mg on more than one occasion, spread over a day/night... it inevitably ends up a bit on the miserable side eventually... before you can finally sleep ...
it's not unlike cocaine in that way, although the effects are otherwise quite different, methylone being much more empathogenic, and it can also be quite euphoric for me at times, especially when making music or listening to music.
Generally listening to people who are talking to me while I'm on Methylone is great. And it just seems they talk to me so much more!!

When the feelings of deep happiness subside post-peak, a certain melancholy / emotional confusion and vague longing manifests itself - more so sometimes than at other times, and sometimes it would last a couple of days, other times it would just be a couple hours. But I guess that's more to do with What I Did during the trip and My Current Preoccupations in life than the drug itself - although I have no doubt there's something VERY emotional to the nature of methylone.

I think it can be used as a therapeutic and/or spiritual tool, but it's also great material for socialising, partying, and dancing . . . can easily be abused like MDMA, for pure hedonism, escapism . . . but, even though far more easily manageable than MDMA and most likely undetected by straight people because you behave so in control and perfectly normal (not hectic, not high, just friendly and open, without judgment), it has a dark side that will rear its head when methylone is abused and one's behaviour/thoughts while high not compatible with one's principles in everyday life.

Oh, and more than one person (though by far not everyone) I know has found it has a sinister side to it... edginess, being a bit irritable... especially on sub-breakthrough doses. So yeah, I'd say 170mg as you took should be enough (though I'd space it... 70 and then add a hundred 30min-1hr later) - but not on a full stomach. Though to aid absorption, you could keep it in your mouth and whoosh it round a couple of minutes for mucosal absorption. But it tastes just so vile. Yuck.

I've taken this substance probably 30-40 times in over 18 months, and I have to say it hasn't lost its magic for me. It gets better and better, especially socially, which is how I most often use it. It teaches me how to be perfectly unafraid when looking at people, and this effect seems to linger... I guess that's not the substance alone but how I try and take some of its lessons on board as I grow.
 
That is definitely a strange reaction. I have had various batches of Methylone, have tried it at least ten times, and my friends have tried it multiple times, and every single person, including myself feels that Methylone is very easy on the body and produces an extremely comfortable experience. Very strange indeed.
 
yeah, methylone is like the worst drug I ever tried.

Gave me a panic attack too (a mild extended one)...... felt toxic to my mind and body.
 
I agree with Ximot in that methylone has gotten better the more I've done it. The first time I did it, I decided I was never going to do it again. Now that I have a good 9-10 experiences under my belt, so to speak, I actually find it quite rewarding, when used appropriately. It seems to have started to last longer and the comedown has gotten much gentler.

Too bad it's still too expensive to be worth it...
 
roughly 1/10 have residual anxiety tending to severe, panic attacks are not unknown and have given several ratties a one-time and forever after 'allergic food aversion', if you will.

in re dose, pays to remember Sasha's wise words: 'it is almost equipotent to MDMA' and 'DMT is everywhere' ;-)

now, roughly 100% experience hard and lasting comedowns, but as they used to say - if you like sledrides, you best better like walking up the hill...
 
hmm, that's good to know nanobrain.
Many phenethylamines have a dark edge for me and I usually dose conservatively so as not to fall prey to it. At the same time, my ability to handle this dark shit can really astound me, because sometimes on these chemicals I will think about stuff that I know is so totally disturbing to most people and I wonder how I can just sit there thinking that stuff and not really get upset. Generally, I'm really happy and not interested in the dark side of life at all, so in a way that aspect of it is one of the most interesting parts.

This isn't to say I don't go crazy with unconrollable laughter if someone tickles me when I'm tripping! It's not all solemn contemplation about how evil the world is...
 
I definitely felt that methylone lingered in my system long after I felt I had returned to baseline. The addition of caffiene, weed, or any drug really, many hours later, had a pronounced, augmented effect. I think, at least for certain metobolisms, this drug can linger in the system fo a bit.
 
I really like the effect of methylone. Its defintitely different from MDMA, and not at all a substitute, but it feels familiar in that warm, soft fuzzy MDMA sort of way.

Unfortunately, I only really get there from ~200mg orally or ~150 or so rectally (preferred due to intense come-up rush) which makes it somewhat expensive considering MDMA won't cost me too much more than that (I am VERY fond of MDMA though). Then the pleasant effects seems to wear off around T+1.5h, and I'm left with a very long drawn-out come-down and feel strung out for the rest of the day and some of the next.
 
Perhaps the full stomach of food delayed some of the methylone from being metabolised. For example there are a number of discussions of people consuming MDMA, failing to feel anything only to start peak 10 hours later as there bodies begin metabolising the agent.
 
Yeah, methylone isn't any cheaper than MDMA, and if you know the right people for MDMA, it's more expensive. Definitely different chemicals. Overall I definitely prefer MDMA. But I do love how methylone does not have a 2-3 day long down period afterwards. You crash a bit harder than with MDMA (IMO, and at reasonable dosages at least), but after you crash, it's gone, not to bother you the next day.

Next time I find myself in possession of methylone, I'll definitely have to try rectal administration... fizz, did you mean that rectal has a more intense comeup rush than oral? I love the oral rush, so that intrigues me for sure... =D
 
it would be a very hard decision to choose between wine and methylone, i love them both so much. what bottle were you drinking incidentally? [don't say goon, you'll break my heart] :)
 
Xorkoth said:
Next time I find myself in possession of methylone, I'll definitely have to try rectal administration... fizz, did you mean that rectal has a more intense comeup rush than oral? I love the oral rush, so that intrigues me for sure... =D

Way more intense. From ~175mg I feel almost dizzy for a few minutes when it really kicks in because it happens so fast. I'm sober one minute, then all of the sudden, I get this powerful "rushing" feeling, MDMA-like visual distortions, strong feeling of well-being, etc.
 
Bodacious =D

I'll have to work on finding more... you know, a pile of it on the street or something. Of course I won't pick it up, but I enjoy finding such things.
 
This is interesting. My friend is a big fan of methylone. Consensus is that methylone is the closest RC to MDMA, but he's never been able to compare the 2 himself for lack of access to the latter. Does rectal administration change that comparison one way or the other?
 
I'll venture a guess and say no, although I can't be sure. I wouldn't expect that rectal methylone would alter the character of the experience other than make it hit faster and harder and reduce the dose.

Orally, I can compare, as I've taken both that way numerous times. Methylone, for one, hits MUCH faster than MDMA. It's pretty shocking how fast it hits. It builds to a fast peak, but that peak drops off quickly. The come-up and peak feel much like MDMA, except that MDMA clouds your head more and feels more dreamy. methylone makes you feel 100% lucid, but overcome with euphoria and openness. IMO, methylone feels more natural than MDMA (although still not exactly natural), and less pushy. MDMA feels very drug-like and there is a push to enjoy it, or something, and you feel practically forced to spill your guts about everything and be loving to everyone and everything.

That being said, I like MDMA more as an experience. Methylone, after the (short) peak, drops off into a very calm state that, if utilized properly, facilitates very emotionally open discussion and pleasant, calm euphoria. But it has to be used properly for this work. MDMA hits a peak, and then the plateau still is basically the same effect except less intense. Also, MDMA's tactile enhancement is better, although methylone's is quite good also.

Finally, MDMA gives a wicked hangover, especially after the first few times you do it. it consists of lethargy, depression, and apathy for sometimes 3 days after the experience. But the actual comedown I don't find too bad. Eventually you just are down, and you may wish you had more, but it's no big deal. Methylone, on the other hand, comes down faster and harder, and always makes me feel like I really want more, or want something to stop feeling uncomfortable and strange. It reminds me of a coke comedown, but it's not as bad as that. However, after you come down, it's done - the next day, you'll feel fine and be all over it, rather than having aftereffects linger for days like with MDMA.

This has been my experience, anyway.
 
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