Do you Would say that mxe is better trip than 4-aco-dmt? For the follow purposes: feeling inner peace, mistyc thougts, no mindfucking, easy on the body, euphoria, laughing a lot, no side effects like tachycardia, chills, tremors etc... I question this because I´m very little experience with 4-aco-dmt, but the trip experiences on it was very smooth, gentle, easy, euphoric, and deep sometimes, a very good one. I´m considering trying mxe but is a very novel rc and im satisfied with 4-aco properties. Is mxe better in the above aspects at normal relatively "safe" doses (25-40 mg)? I only have experience with nitrous as dissociative. The first two-three times I laughed as crazy, but after that no laughed so more, only feel a warm vibrating feeling in my body with metallic hear.
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Methoxetamine Vs 4-Aco-DMT
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StonedNative
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I LOVE MXE.
It's a great drug. However, it's not really a "trip", it's a dissociative. It makes you completely numb and puts you out of your body.
It's a great drug. However, it's not really a "trip", it's a dissociative. It makes you completely numb and puts you out of your body.
polidelaiko
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^ Not always, light doses can make you feel great and not dissociated, maybe a little "drunk".
4-Aco-DMT on the other hand results in tripping for me no matter the dose. And it can be quite demanding sometimes.
4-Aco-DMT on the other hand results in tripping for me no matter the dose. And it can be quite demanding sometimes.
boiledfruit
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Bingo.
Termino
Bluelighter
MXE is not in the same league as 4-AcO-DMT - they have very different effects. I enjoy them both but not as substituted for each other. High dose MXE gets pretty crazy but I still wouldn't compare it to 4-AcO-DMT.
sekio
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The two chemcials are apples and oranges, MXE is a dissociative and 4-aco-dmt is basically psilocin.
bluedolphin
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4-aco-DMT is a classic trip. Basically Psilocin like sekio said and in actuality its effects are only very slightly different from 4-ho-DMT. You've already experienced it so I don't have to tell you what it does.
Methoxetamine can give you what some people would call a "trip", but not in the classical sense at all. At lower doses it feels like a highly nootropic and somewhat spacey antidepressant. At medium doses you may feel "drunk" in the mind, but also like you are sort of tripping. High doses might have you feeling out-of-body and require you to be in a controlled environment.
While MXE is certainly easier than 4-aco-DMT, and may be worthwhile in its own right, it is in no way at all a replacement for 4-aco-DMT -- which, in my opinion, is one of the absolute best psychedelics. Also 4-aco-DMT has a low side effect profile and is usually psychologically tolerated pretty well, so if you are having trouble with that, first I would suggest try to limit your dose to 8mg (which should be a +/++ and be a very easy time but still insightful and interesting). Or else perhaps you should just take a nice dose of LSD before you decide whether or not psychedelic drugs are for you
edit: just re-read your post, saw that you love 4-aco-DMT... okay then, I think you're probably all set. Try MXE if you want, but keep in mind this: MXE will probably seduce you and make you forget about 4-aco-DMT or probably all other drugs included until you have no more MXE. At which point you will probably want more MXE.
Psilacetin, on the other hand, doesn't beg you to take it constantly. Which is a nice feature of all the true psychedelics.
Methoxetamine can give you what some people would call a "trip", but not in the classical sense at all. At lower doses it feels like a highly nootropic and somewhat spacey antidepressant. At medium doses you may feel "drunk" in the mind, but also like you are sort of tripping. High doses might have you feeling out-of-body and require you to be in a controlled environment.
While MXE is certainly easier than 4-aco-DMT, and may be worthwhile in its own right, it is in no way at all a replacement for 4-aco-DMT -- which, in my opinion, is one of the absolute best psychedelics. Also 4-aco-DMT has a low side effect profile and is usually psychologically tolerated pretty well, so if you are having trouble with that, first I would suggest try to limit your dose to 8mg (which should be a +/++ and be a very easy time but still insightful and interesting). Or else perhaps you should just take a nice dose of LSD before you decide whether or not psychedelic drugs are for you
edit: just re-read your post, saw that you love 4-aco-DMT... okay then, I think you're probably all set. Try MXE if you want, but keep in mind this: MXE will probably seduce you and make you forget about 4-aco-DMT or probably all other drugs included until you have no more MXE. At which point you will probably want more MXE.
Psilacetin, on the other hand, doesn't beg you to take it constantly. Which is a nice feature of all the true psychedelics.
4-aco-DMT is a classic trip. Basically Psilocin like sekio said and in actuality its effects are only very slightly different from 4-ho-DMT. You've already experienced it so I don't have to tell you what it does.
Methoxetamine can give you what some people would call a "trip", but not in the classical sense at all. At lower doses it feels like a highly nootropic and somewhat spacey antidepressant. At medium doses you may feel "drunk" in the mind, but also like you are sort of tripping. High doses might have you feeling out-of-body and require you to be in a controlled environment.
While MXE is certainly easier than 4-aco-DMT, and may be worthwhile in its own right, it is in no way at all a replacement for 4-aco-DMT -- which, in my opinion, is one of the absolute best psychedelics. Also 4-aco-DMT has a low side effect profile and is usually psychologically tolerated pretty well, so if you are having trouble with that, first I would suggest try to limit your dose to 8mg (which should be a +/++ and be a very easy time but still insightful and interesting). Or else perhaps you should just take a nice dose of LSD before you decide whether or not psychedelic drugs are for you
edit: just re-read your post, saw that you love 4-aco-DMT... okay then, I think you're probably all set. Try MXE if you want, but keep in mind this: MXE will probably seduce you and make you forget about 4-aco-DMT or probably all other drugs included until you have no more MXE. At which point you will probably want more MXE.
Psilacetin, on the other hand, doesn't beg you to take it constantly. Which is a nice feature of all the true psychedelics.
Thanks for the very complet reply! Yes I like 4-aco-dmt but... I only tried at low dosages because a "inner fear" remembering difficult experience on mushrooms (only tried mushies two times and no more because ultra harsh-anxiety induced come up). The light doses aren´t challenging compared to mushrooms at all, but I can "suspect" that higher maybe converts in challenging/difficult headspace. The only side effects I found with 8-10 mgof psilacetin is excessive pissing, cold/hot changes at come up, excessive relax at the end (too sleepy... very very sleepy) and this triptaminic "density", even gentle and smooth the trip is percieved as dense or long, sense of "content" ("many things have happened"). This last effect isn´t good or bad, but is a kind of a little "exhausted" feeling that forces me to think "uhmm I´ll not repeat this very soon" (like next month maybe).
With 2c-b at low dosages too, do not occurs this feeling, when trip ends i´m feel ready for other trip the next days, but nexus had more physical side effects (like chill, tremors, tachycardia), and is for this because I prefer 4-aco-dmt over 2c-b (as I feel a more warm, euphoric and more "all in one multiple purposes" psychedelic). My interest in MXE was for the "promise" of anxiolitic easy-going comfortable trip with the plus of a deep one. Deep, very warm, comfortable and euhporic sounds like the best drug ever XDD. Maybe I`m wrong, and perhaps psilacetin is my ultimate true drug of choice hehe
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