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Methoxetamine - Tell Us More

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You'll be fine to dose daily, but be careful if you notice yourself starting to do so. Dissociative aren't the kind of drugs to begin using habitually, I noticed real feelings of escapism after repeated daily use of MXE.
 
This belongs in the Methoxetamine Thread boys - it will be of interest to others, so if you want to chat more about it find it there.

Moving.
 
Yes you can, but be warned, until you're truly out of the woods, you'll want to use again and again. I find it takes me 3-5 days to truly shake this craving effect.
 
I find it produces far less kravings than ket does. Pretty mild cravings that I'd barely even call cravings really. But am a ket monster and could see that if you're not a big user of dissociatives it may be surprisingly tempting to keep at it. Dissociatives are addictive as fuckery fuck if you're not careful.

Tolerance would be more my concern than craving in the short term. If you find you're using more days/nights a week than you're not then taking a break is always wise but two or three nights on the trot is no real problem if you don't make a habit of it.
 
Shambles said:
I find it produces far less kravings than ket does. Pretty mild cravings that I'd barely even call cravings really. But am a ket monster and could see that if you're not a big user of dissociatives it may be surprisingly tempting to keep at it. Dissociatives are addictive as fuckery fuck if you're not careful.

Tolerance would be more my concern than craving in the short term. If you find you're using more days/nights a week than you're not then taking a break is always wise but two or three nights on the trot is no real problem if you don't make a habit of it.
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I agree, I'd sniff more ket if I could as soon as I'd come down. This leaves a nice euphoria afterwards so it's not as bad, but if you fiend ket and have a few g's of this you'll be taking it daily.
 
Scientifically and legally speaking, can Methoxetamine be considered a salt, derivative or analogue of Phencyclidine?
 
I'm not qualified to answer that, but it seems to have chemical & in-vivo similarities to both K & pcp. Purely anecdotal.

& yeah this stuff is rather more-ish & I'm trying not to use it every weekend. Trying not to use it in the week either, for that matter.

I rekon we can assume that the addictive qualities & physical risks of ketamine (bladder troubles etc) can be extrapolated to apply to mxe & while it's new it's wise to go easy. But do as I say, not as I do ;)
 
qnibb said:
Scientifically and legally speaking, can Methoxetamine be considered a salt, derivative or analogue of Phencyclidine?
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Depends how tenative a link you can handle it being.
It is not a salt, and is significantly different enough not to be an analouge, but whether or not it's a derivative depends on how good your lawyer is IMO. It's up to the court to prove it is a derivative, but they get to set the definition of derivative.

Both are in the class of arylcyclohexamines so caveat emptor.
 
qnibb said:
Scientifically and legally speaking, can Methoxetamine be considered a salt, derivative or analogue of Phencyclidine?
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It's an arylcyclohexylamine, a group covering PCP,PCE, ketamine, tiletamine and a whole range of compounds that cause similar efffects because of their actions in the CNS of mammals, producing a state known as dissociation. It's actions are a bit like those drugs, but different in the same way psilocin, DMT, AMT etc are diffferent tryptamines
 
It stops you from wanting to sleep while you're on it. I don't think it would stop you from sleeping if you put your mind to it though.
I don't seem to get "quality" sleep though -- like when you go to bed drunk -- can sleep lots but still feel tired.


Thought I'd pop my head into this thread --

I usually enjoy methoxetamine at doses of 30mg-50mg. For me that produces the right balance of drugged-ness and staying in control.
I find it really enjoyable -- it's relaxing and nice-feeling.

So... the other day, I took 50mg. Then after about 1.5 hours I could feel the effects but decided I wanted a bit more. I tried to weigh out 30mg -- but the scales were on the wrong setting! Since I'd already had a bit, I didn't notice that the amount was more than usual. Scales were set to "troy ounces" meaning I'd taken about 90mg, on top of the 50mg already in my system.

It took me by surprise obviously -- I didn't find out the scales were set wrong until a few days after.
I haven't quite worked out if it was a good experience or a bad experience.

It was very intense... I ended up with loads of parallel universes all merging and splitting... and in each of them I was trying to make sense of what was going on.
I got a bit scared, and found mugabe for hugs. Then I threw up a bit.... then I finally started to regain my grip on reality.

I've never experienced the "afterglow" people describe -- I felt like hell the day after this.

All in all I think there are interesting times to be had at the higher doses -- but to be honest I don't think it's for me.
 
I made a similar fuck-up with scales set to the wrong setting with methylone for a while. Was dosing it for days before I noticed. Was only when it got to the night I weighed Sadie's first ever dose of it - was kinda hard to not notice that it was a wee tad more than the average dose when it kicked in 8o8(=D

I also ended up accidentally IVing ~750mg instead of the 250mg I thought I'd weighed out that night. Was the most fun I've ever had on M1 by some considerable distance but no doubt horrible on the HR side of things. Thankfully it worked out great for two of the three people who got uberdosed - we feckin' luuuurved it in fact =D - but the third still got pretty much no effect from it. Odd. But just goes to show how wide a range doses can have depending on body chemistry (and possible drug interactions).

Moral of the story = check, check again, then check again that you definitely set your scales to the gramme setting - especially if you have a large amount of *substance* and are too fucked to realise how big the pile on the scale actually is ;)

On topic: I agree that higher doses are far more interesting with this as with most - if not all - dissociatives. I also agree that higher doses are definitely not everybody's cup of tea. Fortunately lower doses are still pretty goshdarn funkypants too =D
 
Honestly? Not that low in the grand scheme... but as I often point out I do have a smidgeon of a dissociative tolerance ;)

"Low" dose for me would be in the 100-200mg IM range. That definitely isn't actually low unless you have similar tolerance though. And still isn't actually low (obviously) but doesn't have anything like the effect that higher doses (for heavily tolerant users) have. Not sure how that would equate to sane tolerance levels though. If it's even possible to equate. From what I've read many find 20-30mg or so dosed sublingually or nasally to be a very enjoyable, fairly light, but "deep" enough to still have merit.

How d'ya find the stuff yer good self, Sir Fishalot?
 
I kinda guessed you might have a different interpretation of 'low' from myself ;)

I've found it to be a very enjoyable and useful compound but haven't 'needed' to venture over 50mg to date and sometimes enjoy 12.5mg as a tonic.
 
After reading all this info i have decided to bite the bullet and purchase some, this will be a totally new experience from the sounds of it and the first compound that i have actually felt the need to buy some scales. Everything else i have just started with a tiny amount and worked my way up. The "main" supplier as i see it also has some scales for sale on their site. Without mentioning which site would these be good enough for this purpose?

Cheers Boomer
 
have never taken ketamine, but I am the urban legend faceplant that took 1g of dxm on her first go. thanks to lsd experience survived to live to tell the tail. Methoxetamine:
10mg oral.
10min glassy eyes.. music sounds goood
+1 25mg insuffated. music kicks. reading, typing. tweeting.
+2 25mg insuffated typing is getting hard' music amaziing headphones on in the dark leftfield on repeat.no m/k-hole yet but i can sense it. ....opiate fluffy feeling.
this continues in a state of contentment without really tripping in any sense. able to tweet and listen to music moved on to drum and bass, want some dubstep cant
be bothered to get laptop. someone phones me. i turn mobile off for everything but data services. move onto a ambient dj mix by future sound of london. music music music.
+4.5 turned music off. got up. can function. feels nice but wearing off. slight psychadelia, maybe comparable to canabis. very "cotton wool" feeling
i could function fine. fed cat, talk, etc. not sure how this would work in a social context. will try 50mg insuffated after dinner

a lovely lovely lovely mellow drug to listen to music and chill. i see no comparison to ketamine (again i havnt tried ketamine) but from what i expected.
 
I enjoy the larger intramuscular doses as well but lately I have gotten the most mileage out of small (10-20mg) doses, more like an evening tonic than a full meal. Quite lovely, and surprising how much of an effect 10mg can still have!
 
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