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(Methoxetamine) - Experienced - a word of caution

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I had tried methoxetamine quite a few times, it feels really similar to K, and seemed like a just replacement as it has some effects i quite like, lasts longer, is more potent, and actually gave me energy and motivation to do things, antideppressant effects very similar to what PCP used give before I quite it for various reasons.

I thought maybe I had a new ally for witch to into Kholes with, but 2 recent incidents have made me think otherwise. Blackouts.

One incident at a club, I did a dose which i thought would put me just on the cusp of a hole 85mg, which I had done before no problem.

Next thing i remember my head is in some sort of a water bubble like sensation. I'm fucked up badlyI felt like I was split in 2???. I appearently tried to grab some random girls breasts. got in a major brawl and bit one of the bouncers at the club. Obviously shit i'd never even consider doing. Like something was controlling me.

the other incident was with my room mates mother she saw me in a hole and i guess tried to come at my face and I hit her which i thought was just reflexive, but still i had not the slightest recollection.
This is after barely feeling it kick in. it just hit me outta no where and made me do shit i'd never do.

this reminds me of PCP horror stories. I have done alot of K and alot of dust and never experienced this.

Be carefull with this shit, it may not be as nice as u think
 
I think the bigger lessons here would be to not do enormous doses in clubs or in front of other people who don't know whats going on, no? That seems beyond foolish to me What did you expect? :|

Not to sound like a condescending ass, but common sense is advised, jeeze!

Be safe<3
 
When you're in a hole, your perspective on reality is more skewed than any could ever hope to imagine, have they not been in a hole themselves. Your actions are most likely due to you being removed from reality in the extreme.

So similar situation to people who are hopelessly drunk. The danger lies not so much with the drug, but with whether or not it is used responsibly.
 
the dose I did was not enormous for me, it seems to have different effects at the same dosage, 75mg usually puts me on just the edge of a hole as most people do 50mg for what seems like just short of hole, i usually need a bit more

Typically on dissociatives I just sit or stand in 1 place and chill, I don't usually blackout and grab other people
It's not like this is my 1st party in a club where I or anyone else for that matter got into a hole, but I wasn't even trying to get into a hole in the ist place

Perhaps it may be that I need to give dissociatives a rest in general, I don't feel that I use them that often but maybe my mind is not reacting to them as it normally does, who knows...
 
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i think the problem was taking too much in public

ket is not a club drug - if it were so great for clubbing then why do so many people get thrown out for being unable to co-ordinate their movement? i've seen this happen before

dissociatives are good for coming down from clubbing at home after an E or some aMT
 
I think people should actually tread carefully with this drug in particular. Yes, it`s a good idea to be careful with dissociatives in general, but this drug is relatively new, while ketamine has been used recreationally for many decades. I have done fairly hefty doses of ketamine in a club environment and have never experienced a blackout. Ketamine is particularly popular in the southern California area at rave parties, and I know many people who consider this their drug of choice at raves. I have heard of people becoming completely immobile and are forced to sit in the corner for an hour or two, but I have never seen anyone go wild or blackout whilst on ketamine.

This drug is new. We don`t know everything about it. It seems somewhat less safe than ketamine, at least judging from anecdotal reports and educated guesses about the drug. We need to take extra caution with it, beyond what you would normally take for something like PCP or ketamine. Yes, you should keep your wits about you on any drug, especially dissociatives, but you can`t claim completely that this is a case of simply having to be careful on dissociatives in general. This is an essentially unresearched chemical. It deserves extra caution.
 
pofacedhoe said:
i think the problem was taking too much in public

ket is not a club drug - if it were so great for clubbing then why do so many people get thrown out for being unable to co-ordinate their movement? i've seen this happen before

dissociatives are good for coming down from clubbing at home after an E or some aMT
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Yes, I cant imagine taking this in big doses like 40+mg and being in a club full of people that just arn't on the same level. Smaller doses on top of aMT or E i can see being more managable in having to mix with reality but its a fine line you tread.
 
MXE can make me think of doing things I wouldn't usually do. Like I've had "extreme" sex drives on it , and god forbid anyone had been around me something weird might have happened. I've also felt "immortal" on it but have supressed this feeling by doing weights and stuff like that. Obviously these were when I hav'nt been in a hole, but on lower doses or during the afterglow.
 
When on MXE , its caused me to think (not do) things Id never think of doing ever. Like being extremely turned on and like wanting to do inapporpriate things. I've had feelings of immortality or immense power, but have suppressed these feelings by doing weights and such. These were at lower doses, or during the after glow of a hole.
 
One needs to keep in mind that this is an N-Ethyl substituted dissociative, this increases potency to quite some degree, plus it is probably much more stable metabolically (drip being also active etc).

Did experiment with a few N-Methylanalogs but all appeared down in potency, unclear/erratic in effects and such. Actually, the N-Ethyl is there to make it active orally, to reduce handling with needles, not to snort rocks etc. (frankly though I have used it ever since - i.m.)
 
hugo24 said:
Did experiment with a few N-Methylanalogs but all appeared down in potency, unclear/erratic in effects and such. Actually, the N-Ethyl is there to make it active orally, to reduce handling with needles, not to snort rocks etc. (frankly though I have used it ever since - i.m.)
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More details please! :) Very fascinated by the SAR of arylcyclohexylamines, and the new-er work that has been done is eating me up. Please share what knowledge you have? :)

cheers!
 
Going through a shitty depression, no words from me for some time.
 
I'm sorry Hugo. I know how that goes (all too well) and I wish you the best of luck in getting to a better place:)

Thank you<3<3
 
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