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took a valium earlier, hoofed 30mg, and another 30mg just now, feeling good =D bitter backdrop compared to previous batches though, dunno what its cut with
 
Oh god...

http://www.nme.com/news/various-artists/61559

Users of club drug 'Roflcoptr' warned about unknown long term effects Doctors say no research on mket's effect has been done


Users of a new legal high known as 'Roflcoptr' or 'mket' are being warned about possible unknown longterm dangers of the ketamine-like substance.

A report in the current issue of Mixmag say users of the drug, which comes in white powder form, claim the drug gives them "feelings of warmth and enlightenment" and adding that there's a "hallucinatory" element to the drug, which users purchase legally online as a research chemical – it cannot be sold explicitly for human consumption.

However, the article quotes Dr Valerie Curran, a psychopharmacolgist at University College London, who says: "People are playing Russian roulette when they take something like this, because there's been no research on its effects."

The Mixmag piece also talks to users of the drug, one of whom, 'Jeremy', recalls watching a snow-filled Kate Bush video. He says: "I was in the video, actually inside the frame. I forgot where I was, what I was listening to, everything. I was that snowman, and I'm not usually prone to hallucinations. I don't even like Kate Bush."

Another Roflcoptr user states: We were on it at Glastonbury. When a mate shat himself, rather than take the piss out of him, we were just really understanding.
Dr Adam Winstock also warns users in the piece of increased vulnerability and safety issues, explaining that people on the drug "aren't too preoccupied with the world around them and they go off into the world within them."

Is Roflcoptr the worst drug in the world?
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roflcoptr? Are you fucking kidding me?

and

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/we-interviewed-the-man-who-invented-roflecoptr

I do agree with the bit about risks from taking something that hasn't had any proper research done on it.
 
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Something a bit concerning happened to my mates girlfriend the other day.

They were on mxe, 50mg IV, decided to top up with 60mg IV (a bit crazy! I recommended against it!) the stuff wasn't very potent though.

After the second shot her hand went into the 'retarded' position and she kind of lost feeling on that side of her body. Also started to 'shudder'. Freaked the shit out of me and was just about to call for an ambulance...put on some chilled music (the beatles) and talked to her calmly for a minute or two, and that seemed to help. Lasted about five minutes max. She didn't have any memory of it...

I took possession of their stash until I have more info. They weren't exactly pleased but understood why. Her nutrition probably hasn't been the best (not getting her 2 fruit and 5 vegetable servings per day for example, not like she's eating maccas every meal though...) I told her to get some B12 and a multivitamin to start on daily.

If that happened to me I wouldn't be touching drugs for a long time...but she's still rather keen to get on the MXE this weekend. I'm thinking of just limiting how much I give them, like maybe 50mg maximum?

Also suggested intranasal or at most IM, just so it isn't such a shock to the system.

Anyone else have any thoughts on what I should do? I'd never be able to live with myself if she had a stroke or something...

Strange thing was after the 60mg they were probably only 'm-holed' for 10 minutes...if that. Within half an hour someone could have mistaken her as almost sober. Maybe this is just tolerance?
 
great, so the media's onto it now - i suppose that's it for MXE.
i was really hoping to try this before it became impossible (or obviously illegal) to obtain. fucking english media, jesus.
 
I don't think the media will be able to kill MXE, it's user base will demand for it far more than the user bases of Mephedrone and Methylone.
 
last nights random MXE experiene was weird but amazing, felt like i had become a messiah or something and reached some level of enlightenment, upped the dose further than usual, didn't hole and lose myself but became at one, at peace everything melted together, all thoughts silenced into one perfect moment of "being". it seemed to lack the usual euphoria but it was awesome. woke up today feeling a bit groggy and realized i was slightly dehydrated, drank litres of water and it sorted it out, feeling ontop of the world, productive but not overly manic, feel on the spot, motivated, sharp. awesome stuff. excellent
 
^I've had similar experiences with MXE, and in the days following it always leaves me wondering how I could attain such a state naturally, and permanently. It feels very much like descriptions of the state of (or at least the beginning of the state of) enlightenment: feeling connected, being able to see your everyday self clearly and separately from your permanent self, feeling not excited or falsely euphoric but with an unlimited sense of curiosity and total lack of fear.

It can be quite remarkable.

Other times it's just straight out weird, fear and loathing style, why-am-i-crawling-on-the-floor?, mania. And sometimes I get paranoid too.

It's not always an instant, guaranteed trip to a higher state of being, but sometimes it sure seems to take you there.
 
ColtDan said:
last nights random MXE experiene was weird but amazing, felt like i had become a messiah or something and reached some level of enlightenment, upped the dose further than usual, didn't hole and lose myself but became at one, at peace everything melted together, all thoughts silenced into one perfect moment of "being". it seemed to lack the usual euphoria but it was awesome. woke up today feeling a bit groggy and realized i was slightly dehydrated, drank litres of water and it sorted it out, feeling ontop of the world, productive but not overly manic, feel on the spot, motivated, sharp. awesome stuff. excellent
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Mine was also incredible.

I was in this blissed out wonderland of soft fuzz. Not even close to an m-hole, but I think that's how I like it best.

Was just at home by myself and it sure beats drinking by yourself, smoking weed by yourself etc.

Water is definitely something you have to remind yourself to drink on MXE. I setup a reminder on my phone.

Music was amazing.

Apparat - The Devil's Walk is an album everyone on MXE should listen to at least once. It's got a very slow and warm vibe, with evolving textures and melodies. If anyone has seen the latest breaking bad episode they use one of his tracks in Gus's final moments. Don't let 'the devils walk' put you off, if it's anything but devil/hell vibe, genre is mostly chillout. 'Synths swell up and retreat, drums skitter in and out frame-- there's a lot of motion but it's got grace and purpose.' Not such a good album awhile sober mind you.

Ended up reading Edgar Alan Poe on the tail-end until 5am.

Had a small amount of benzo (like equivalent to 5-10mg of diazepam, any-more and kills the warmness) Also had a cup of coffee around 11pm.

Can't really compare it to how good MDMA is, but it was approaching that kind of experience...minus the social aspects (although I still felt pretty damn social) Very profound.

Feeling great today :)...a drug this good with no horrible come down? I'm glad I don't have much of it, and have managed to control myself from taking it much during the week.

For someone who has shyed away from psychedelics like LSD, mushrooms and the like in the last few years, it's the perfect 'trip'. Fear/paranoia never creeps in, and for me it kind of wraps me in a warm blanket where 'everything is going to be fine' - can't say it's the same for everyone though, I've yet to do large doses.
 
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crazy stuff, more often than not think ive gone fucking nuts until valium sorts it out, does some really weird shit. trying to sleep on it is odd as well, felt like some aliens had taken me and all kinds of stuff. saw some very alien things, abstract stuff being shown to me, was almost DMT like but slower. also at one point before i went to bed i was sat melting into the music with my headphones up full whack, and suddenly i snapped out of this deep vision that id been projected into a shop where i tried on some "Dr dre beats" headphones on awhile ago, it was literally like i re-lived the past, thought i had them on when i came out of it, came out of it like "what the FUCK" and ended up a bit confused. never had such a literal moment of reliving the past, it was more than a memory it was like i had been projected through time. makes me wonder how people can do this stuff daily, fuck that. gotta love the afterglow though
 
I have re-lived the past of myself as well as other past and future events whilst on MXE :p. It can be very confusing experiencing something that is yet to happen several times before it happens.

It's been too long since I have had MXE and have had my depression seep back through manifesting itself in other forms of drug abuse.


Daily use will kill the magic, it took a decent break + some to get it back after 7 days of daily use.
 
Interesting to see you guys above talking about effects on time. That's a theme (message?) I've had repeatedly with high dose sessions of MXE. I'll often feel that time is an abstract concept (which I guess it is) and that the reality of life is that everything (past, present, future) somehow exists at the same time.

Yesterday I blew my head apart with an oral dose 40mg/25mg MXE and 3-meo-pcp. I've never had so much 3-meo-pcp at one time before.

After about an hour I had a surge of energy and I spontaneously pulled out some of the electronic music I used to love and had myself a little private retro disco in my room. Boards of Canada, AFX, Venetian Snares, and Download (anyone know these guys?) took me back, in a very literal sense, to times past.

Listening to "Flight of Luminous Insects" by Download with the volume high almost killed me it was so intense, and somehow I experienced the song and album and every past experience I'd had related to it all at once - I remembered; finding and buying the album in a music store in Tokyo more than ten years ago (was really happy because I had been looking for it for ages); listening to that album on several different stereos I've owned and the details of buying each of those systems; the people I knew during the months that I listened to that album; opinions and feelings and reactions to things in my life at that time; a billion other minutiae that I was sure were gone from my memory forever.

Funny thing is that I can't remember even a fraction of those details now the following day, but I know that pretty much every thing down to the smallest detail (objects, people, words, thoughts, dreams, sounds) is all still there (in my head? in the cosmos?) somewhere and nothing is lost.

It was one of those experiences which was both amazing and weirdly enjoyable, but which I have no desire to repeat anytime soon. Intense.
 
Jakeperson said:
Time is a dimension, not a time-line as we are led to believe. There is only one moment in time and it is right now.
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so very true.

Had a breakthrough MXE experience last night, on par with DMT, 10mg of valium, some alcohol and some 30mg lines... pushed the dose higher... fucking christ. so euphoric, felt raped with euphoria from all directions, became the master of myself, everything melted together, to become one thing. music took me on an adventure, felt like i was surrounded by entities/guides watching me, it was profound. magical and majestic. seriously head bending stuff though, whole room turn into a weird mystical playground. this stuff is boundaryless, seriously amazing stuff. at one point i felt like i was on all drugs combined, broke through some hidden layer of a dimention. physcadelic as fuck. must have looked like a right nutcase

came out of the experience laughing and giggling like i get from returning from shocking DMT breakthroughs, shook me up

woke up with a beautiful amazing afterglow, feel fresh and spot on. feel motivated. kinda re-born. beautiful. perfect long last afterglow anti-depressant, as many people have said, and its so true. for some reason it took me a long long time to ever feel any of the afterglow effects, didnt really like this stuff to start off with

of course this is all delusional bullshit, to be taken with a grain of salt, but interesting none the less. but... ah well who knows. life is a big mystery, these drugs are weird, but thats what they're all about. probably sound like a right nutcase haha

Valium + MXE = golden.
 
^Be careful with that combo, some serious respiratory depression right thar. Also, another warning on mixing MXE and alcohol - just don't do it. Too many people have stupidly done it and payed the price.

I found MXE to be very nostalgic, was great for old tracks and dancing like a complete fucktard :P
 
TripppAR said:
There is MXE going around in fucking PILLS now man... ! White Spades and they are roughly 45-50 mg's a pop. .. leading people to take 2 during the long come up - 2 hours - and then leading them to be FUCKED on MXE after thinking they got ripped etc...


Tested them for a mate with multiple test kits, then consumed .. 99.9% sure it was MXE .
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Huh. If that is true it explains my fucked-up saturday night at Rainbow Serpent... had one of those pills in thirds throughout the day and then about 50mg of MXE a few hours later... and was holed for the rest of the night, sliding around in a klein bottle and slightly worried I was about to die..
 
just dosed my first trial of MXE, i weighed up .013g, and split that in half and nosed it. glad i did, felt like i started coming up in about 2minutes [i didnt even stand up before i felt something], opiate like body feeling.

watching tv, everything is brighter, softer, and the visual effects are incredibly 3D?! it is a 3d tv, but it has 'depth' that iv never seen in 3d before, its nice!
easily distracted, taken ~20minutes to write just this much now. ill update later i guess
 
I woke up this morning at 6:30am and remembered that i passed outb witth half g coke and over half a g of mxe!! still in my pocket... I fuckin went to the toilet and IV'd some charlie that actually made me feel sick prob bout .2 anyways anoyyed thgat in felt anxious ansd not as as high as i thought i snorted 75mg up each nostril and hadf a fuckin semi bad trip come to fruition on the best trip eva!! and have just baqreley come 2 now as i write this.....
 
i didnt redose the other little pile, just the one ~.006. other than feeling chilled, playing BF3 [my k/d ratios are back to normal now lol] everythings back to base. still feel a little 'floaty' when i stand up and thats it. will try more later tonight and see where i go.
oh and iv never dont K or MXE so i dont know what i should feel like, or what a hole is like.

are these figures sound right for what im feeling, or trying to describe? maybe im just sensitive to the stuff? or over exagerating, placebo [been reading tonns about this stuff before i got it]?

as for the anti-depression effects, how would one dose? dad has had sever depression for a decade, with minimal effects from current meds, so iv been talking with him about this stuff and K. he and i are researching it a bit, and probably too hopefull.
dad is very... anti-drug-for-recrational-use? he's smoked pot and maybe done other things, be we wouldnt just sit around and share a line or anything... would/should i cap it? this would be easiest for him im sure.

how much to get the effects if one was to eat a cap? start low for safty reasons, but what would be the "average" ammount one would use to acheive the anti depressing effects, but minimal high?
how often? just when the afterglow is gone?
 
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