Methodone, I never realized how strong it really is !

[hwbush336]

So I'm down to 50 mg a day of methodone and it's still affecting my sleep motivation and drive . I never thought my receptors and tolerance would recover like it has . I feel absolutely amazing the first 2 hours of the dose and then I start to get sleepy and tired unmotivated.. EKG are better than normal always , so it's nothing to do with my heart or anything it literally only happens when I take the methodone.. So I'm wondering at wat dose I gotta be on for it to stop or will it always affect me at any dose until j come off . Also I want no euphoria or high I just want to feel normal not sleepy content none of that .

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Methadone is a very powerful and long lasting opioid.

It can and does provide a very noticeable level of euphoria akin to other opiates/opioids.


But if you're using it for treatment, then the fact that you feel 'amazing', followed by tiredness and lack of motivation, suggests to me that your current dose is actually too high.

You need to find that sweet spot where it keeps you stable, but doesn't provide a sense of wellbeing that is obviously chemically induced.


This can be done, it just takes a long time.

Methadone was my saviour, and I'll defend it all the way. It just has to be used wisely.

 

[hwbush336]

Methadone is a very powerful and long lasting opioid.

It can and does provide a very noticeable level of euphoria akin to other opiates/opioids.


But if you're using it for treatment, then the fact that you feel 'amazing', followed by tiredness and lack of motivation, suggests to me that your current dose is actually too high.

You need to find that sweet spot where it keeps you stable, but doesn't provide a sense of wellbeing that is obviously chemically induced.


This can be done, it just takes a long time.

Methadone was my saviour, and I'll defend it all the way. It just has to be used wisely.

Yesss bro my Saviour as well !!!! I defend it just like you my friend, I fought long and hard on Suboxone and it slowly turns into something horrible as it just threw me into PRECIP no matter how long I waited , and even when I was stable I would relapse , alot to do with I wasn't ready and alot the medicine. But I was as high as 178 mg coming off Fyntinol, I live in Ohio , and now at 50 , , how much u think I could cut a week and not be sick ? I get 100 monthly and only take 50 so I have a suit case full of back stock so not worried if I get sick I just want to hit that sweet spot

 

[Keif' Richards]

Everyone is different of course, but in general, it's said that if you're dose is making you noticeably sedated, then your dose is probably too high. A lot of people chase the Methadone all the way to the end in terms of dosage increases. People will often increase their dose compulsively while getting increasingly diminished returns in the process. In short, their mind and body are telling them they want/need more Methadone when the true reality is that they would feel their best at a lower dosage.

This leads a lot of people down a path that ends with them feeling completely numb to everything, sleeping all day and generally not experiencing life the way they should be.

I'm not saying this is you specifically OP, but I thought it made sense to discuss this. You're right that the appropriate Methadone dose should have you feeling "normal". It should be enough to reduce your cravings completely, without making you sedated or otherwise interfering with your life. This is different for every person. It involves being really honest with yourself and being mindful of what the drug is really doing to and for you as opposed to what you think it's doing.

 

[Coffeeshroom]

I agree you need to find that stable dose where you just feel like a normal person and can function with pain s aches or need to use ( though the mental part is all on you there ) plus I personall find dosing every 12 hr helps keeps me level and stable.

 

[MedicinalUser247]

I've seen plenty of people that where on high dosages of methadone in recovery classes. They were always nodding out and scratching their face.

 

[hwbush336]

Everyone is different of course, but in general, it's said that if you're dose is making you noticeably sedated, then your dose is probably too high. A lot of people chase the Methadone all the way to the end in terms of dosage increases. People will often increase their dose compulsively while getting increasingly diminished returns in the process. In short, their mind and body are telling them they want/need more Methadone when the true reality is that they would feel their best at a lower dosage.

This leads a lot of people down a path that ends with them feeling completely numb to everything, sleeping all day and generally not experiencing life the way they should be.

I'm not saying this is you specifically OP, but I thought it made sense to discuss this. You're right that the appropriate Methadone dose should have you feeling "normal". It should be enough to reduce your cravings completely, without making you sedated or otherwise interfering with your life. This is different for every person. It involves being really honest with yourself and being mindful of what the drug is really doing to and for you as opposed to what you think it's doing.

Totally agree , lower my dose the better more euphoria I feel tbh . And I'm on 30 mg now from 180 if I take an extra 30 in HIGH AF for 2 days , not literally but for a long while and it's a nice warm nodding high which sounds bad but it was so worth going down

 

[pixies+]

Totally agree , lower my dose the better more euphoria I feel tbh . And I'm on 30 mg now from 180 if I take an extra 30 in HIGH AF for 2 days , not literally but for a long while and it's a nice warm nodding high which sounds bad but it was so worth going down

I went from 120mg to 10mg in roughly a year. It wasn’t the most pleasant experience I’ve ever had but I don’t remember it being awful either. This was also the first and only time I had ever been on methadone. Not sure if that had anything to do with why it felt relatively ‘easy’ to me.
I know everyone reacts differently.

I did exactly what @Keif' Richards said people tend to do. I went above and beyond what I knew I needed.

Methadone gave me the appetite of a pack of velociraptors.
It made me feel like complete dog shit. I was tired, fat, hungry, and had zero motivation 100% of the time.

I vividly remember getting up in the middle of the night and scooping mashed potatoes and gravy into my mouth with my hands. Then opened up a can of condensed milk and basically drank it. I was a fucking disgrace.

I had become a completely different type of unhealthy and that wasn’t sustainable either.

I can’t remember my exact timeline but it was something like this.
I started dropping by 20mg a month, which wasn’t nearly as uncomfortable as I thought it would be, until I got to around 60mg.
Then I dropped by 10mg a month until I got to 30mg. From there I dropped by 2-5mg until I was down to 8mg.

Then I fucked up. Inhaled steel wool and burnt the shit out of my throat. Didn’t tell the doctor I was on methadone (he didn’t bother checking) and was given a shot of dilaudid, and a couple refills. Then a bunch of other bullshit happened and I ended up on suboxone.

Methadone was an amazing stepping stone for me… and as much as I want off the suboxone (i’m down from 24mg to 8mg), I had no idea how fuzzy methadone made me until I went on subs. Subs feel much cleaner and clearer… but I personally find them far more difficult to withdrawal from even when done properly.

I think I started to feel somewhat normal once I dropped to about 20-30mg of methadone.

Sorry for the rant but hope it helps in some way!

 

[Coffeeshroom]

Hav8ng used both bupre and methadone I can also testify to its potency. Hell even on a low dose of 10 - 20mg a day a had too shoot dbl to feel anything where with bupe on my lowest dose 500mcg one bag was enough and to breakthrough. When I was on 40mg methadone my first shot did nadda and only the second would break through and I would feel it.

 

[Them Witches]

If you are heavily opioid tolerant like myself, I have a hard time feeling euphoria from Methadone. However, I find Methadone IR Mallinckrodt tablets king of addressing physical dependency even in smaller dosages because of the full-life of the drug.

In my life I have been on all kinds of dosages, 180mg, 120mg, 80mg, and 40mg all at different times. After being on it for a period of time all the dosages feel the same as far as "euphoria or mental effect."

Over the past year I have found a new use for Methadone. I take 4 x 10mg IR tablets throughout the day with 7 x Roxi 30mg IR. It keeps the Roxi from dropping below a certain level providing linear levels of narcotic. Without the Methadone and at 8-10 x Roxi 30mg, every morning I wake up at 5am sneezing like crazy and yawning every 15 seconds.

Just Methadone 40mg makes that much of a difference for me. As far as I am concerned, Mallinckrodt makes the best generic Methadone 10mg IR tablets and he best generic Roxicodone 30mg IR tablets. ** The generics are "Oxycodone HCl." I have had two 30-day Rx's of Mallinckrodt brand name Roxicodone 30mg IR and I found those to be a tad better than Mallinckrodt's generic version. They want too much for the brand name.

Back to the Methadone, I find the generic Mallinckrodt IR tablets better than the brand name Methadose solution. My old cancer patient friend got the Methadose 750mL of 10mg/1ml monthly and said the Mallinckrot generic IR tablets also felt stronger to him. He was taking 250mg of solution daily. Go figure. He was nuts and would take 50ml (500mg) at once and would skip the next day's dose (48hrs) before withdrawals would start.

Oxycodone has a concentrated solution 20mg/1ml or 200mg/10ml. Imagine the condition of the patient to get this Rx. The final boss of Oxycodone.