I already went to Erowid and they werent to clear for me just as to what it is? I know its used in treatment for people who are addicted to heroin but what kinda feeling does it give you? what doeas it do to you? etc..... if you can help me out Id appreciate it, cuz im debating about taking one soon.....
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Methandone.....what is it?
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ebeneezer_geeza
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Firstly, as i was addicted to this for 10 years i would never recommend seriously taking it. Its a very strong opiate with a much more prolonged withdrawal syndrome than heroin.It has a half life that is 4x longer than heroin. So effects, and when u r addicted - withdrawals - are four times as long. You could take say 15mg and be stoned the next day. Its effects in "some" people including myself are similar to heroin.
I have found that it has a more "speedy" effects than heroin - you can get work done etc. If you do too much you feel sick and sleepy, much the same as H. So in some ways its similar to other opiates.
It comes in tablets, linctus/syrup and ampoules (the latter only are for injection - never the other preps).
It was invented by Nazi scientists when the allies blocked the opium supply. As far as clean drugs go methadone is that and if you can take it or leave it (few ppl can) then fine.
I have found that it has a more "speedy" effects than heroin - you can get work done etc. If you do too much you feel sick and sleepy, much the same as H. So in some ways its similar to other opiates.
It comes in tablets, linctus/syrup and ampoules (the latter only are for injection - never the other preps).
It was invented by Nazi scientists when the allies blocked the opium supply. As far as clean drugs go methadone is that and if you can take it or leave it (few ppl can) then fine.
Eldon
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be careful with methadone,i took it for three years and just recently i decided to quit,ive had withdrawl symptoms for three months now.
after long term use,it rearanges your body chemistry thats why withdrawls can take up to a year. but besides all that its a great high,and it gave me super powers,it made work fun.
after long term use,it rearanges your body chemistry thats why withdrawls can take up to a year. but besides all that its a great high,and it gave me super powers,it made work fun.
ebeneezer_geeza
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yes that w/d sucks on methadone. by far the most prolonged withdrawal of any opiate.
i used to take this recrationaly, once to twice a a week (15mg). I thought this was well under control, but it was enough to give me a nasty little habit. I had no idea at the time as i thought you had to use daily to be addicted. Its because it stays in your system so long.
[ 07 February 2003: Message edited by: ebeneezer_geeza ]
i used to take this recrationaly, once to twice a a week (15mg). I thought this was well under control, but it was enough to give me a nasty little habit. I had no idea at the time as i thought you had to use daily to be addicted. Its because it stays in your system so long.
[ 07 February 2003: Message edited by: ebeneezer_geeza ]
Roachsucker
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4:20-VERTIGO
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If you just got off heroin, you feel like hell and you feel like your gonna die. Methadone when properally given to you. Will help you feel better.
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ps. See a doctor if you need this stuff. Clinics don't know how to gradually give you less of the stuff untill you need none of it. There the ones that give drugs like this a bad name. Why ?, because half the time the people working at clinics don't give f#ck about you. So it dosn't matter to them if you end up getting addicted to the stuff. To them your just walk in bussiness. If you go to a doctor to get treated for your addiction the treatments more interactive and you get better help with it.
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ps. See a doctor if you need this stuff. Clinics don't know how to gradually give you less of the stuff untill you need none of it. There the ones that give drugs like this a bad name. Why ?, because half the time the people working at clinics don't give f#ck about you. So it dosn't matter to them if you end up getting addicted to the stuff. To them your just walk in bussiness. If you go to a doctor to get treated for your addiction the treatments more interactive and you get better help with it.
ebeneezer_geeza
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Roachsucker try and go for subutex as opposed to meth. I had to get down to 30mg of meth to start subutex. IMO sub is a wonder drug, the effects of w/d are so minimal and its easy to taper. Good luck.
PS - this site below might help
http://www.dhs.vic.gov.au/phd/buprenorphine/
PS - this site below might help
http://www.dhs.vic.gov.au/phd/buprenorphine/
Roachsucker
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eb, thats exactly what i was already thinking of doing, having gotten the advice from Dr. Groveller...
i in fact discussed the issue with the doc at the detox centre, who agreed its one possibility, but first i have to taper down on meth. like you say... only that i plan to taper lower than 30mg, since i'm shit scared of getting hit by instant w/d from sub's antagonist action...
did you not get hit by any w/d's taking sub after being on 30mg of meth? how long did you wait from your last dose of meth before taking your first sub pill? and how strong was your very last dose of meth & how strong was the first pill of subutex?
and thanks for the link, am going to give the pdf file a look for some more useful info...
i in fact discussed the issue with the doc at the detox centre, who agreed its one possibility, but first i have to taper down on meth. like you say... only that i plan to taper lower than 30mg, since i'm shit scared of getting hit by instant w/d from sub's antagonist action...
did you not get hit by any w/d's taking sub after being on 30mg of meth? how long did you wait from your last dose of meth before taking your first sub pill? and how strong was your very last dose of meth & how strong was the first pill of subutex?
and thanks for the link, am going to give the pdf file a look for some more useful info...
ebeneezer_geeza
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ya have to leave it 24 hrs between taking your last dose of meth.
i suppose its better to go as low as possible, but the w/d are not that bad, the first day is the worst, but its do-able and i'm a real wimp when it comes to w/d. But i'd say mine was bad cause i was on it so long and at the height of my habit i was on 50mg x 3 amps per day.
The first day they only would give me 8mg, wankers. I needed at least 12mg then i tapered down to nothing over 21 days. Afterwards I had trouble sleeping and kept getting temperature changes but otherwise not bad. I dont know what the cost is to you but this stuff is damn expensive 56 ukp for 14 8mg tabs (chemist cost).
i suppose its better to go as low as possible, but the w/d are not that bad, the first day is the worst, but its do-able and i'm a real wimp when it comes to w/d. But i'd say mine was bad cause i was on it so long and at the height of my habit i was on 50mg x 3 amps per day.
The first day they only would give me 8mg, wankers. I needed at least 12mg then i tapered down to nothing over 21 days. Afterwards I had trouble sleeping and kept getting temperature changes but otherwise not bad. I dont know what the cost is to you but this stuff is damn expensive 56 ukp for 14 8mg tabs (chemist cost).
Roachsucker
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eb, apart from the disconcerting temperature changes, the info you gave me is actually pretty encouraging... i'd personally anticipated a 2-month tapering down to 0 (i mean zero of anything)... proably split half n half between tapering off meth & tapering off subutex... so fro your account that sounds about right (even if you seem to have startd WAY higher than me - i'm at 1/3 of your meth. doseage)...
the one good thing about italy i'll tell you, is that detox treatment is 100% free... so i'm basically getting methadone paid for by the government... same with subutex when it gets to that...
and just as well, since there's no way i could ever afford it if it wasn't free...
the one good thing about italy i'll tell you, is that detox treatment is 100% free... so i'm basically getting methadone paid for by the government... same with subutex when it gets to that...
and just as well, since there's no way i could ever afford it if it wasn't free...
Check this ou if u r ADDICTED to herion and tryed everything to get off then methadone might be fro u it is not a drug u should take to get u high since i been taking it i was up to 130mg and never got high like herion just tired and close to death probably so before u think of fucking with methadone for a night remeber it is addictive it is a opiate worst of all its a synthic opiat , but if u need it it works to get off herion when u feel like u can't.
day_for_night
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Clonazaman
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Anorak
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^you may, but a lot of us don't. Goood luck getting off of H. And thanx for the good info people!