Methamphetamine Myth Maddness

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I also force myself to eat on any type of speed. I take vitamins daily, also. That really helps.

 

[Invalid Usename]

I think there should be a section dedicated to dental care...

This would be more so an issue for a chronic user, as opposted to someone who uses the drug once or twice per month.

Still, this is an impiortant issue to bring up, so consider it noted and added to the list of items to cover.

Thanks

 

[lifeisforliving]

^ Classify the dental issues as a side-effect that needs management tis all.

 

[Synapse999]

This would be more so an issue for a chronic user, as opposted to someone who uses the drug once or twice per month.

Still, this is an impiortant issue to bring up, so consider it noted and added to the list of items to cover.

Thanks

heh, you have changed the topic of this thread like 3 times.
first time was myths about meth psychosis and stories.
Which i purposely avoided, cause i can't usually follow non-fact threads. But i opened it right now, and you are talking about dental.
its like you are trying to decieve a way to compile a new type of FAQ into one thread or your own study. ;p
(becaues amphetamine world is naturally scattered).
Sorry now, that i overlooked psychosis thread as a typical story/debate/argue run on segment..as we see here to often.

Looks like there is actually decent questions you ask, easily answered by other threads and people's experience. scattered out there.
I'll have to read this later, and catch up.

It will be a sad world if people relied on kandy k's mix of experience/confused knowledge lol.

 

[lifeisforliving]

It will be a sad world if people relied on kandy k's mix of experience/confused knowledge lol.

lol... yeah, I've only been on bluelight for 6 months or so, but from some people's posting you get the sense that they are running headlong into a brickwall, denying the existance of the wall until they hit it.

(and no offense to kandy k, lots of people go through that use/abuse/crash cycle to a greater or lesser degree.. myself included.. and hey, it's fun living vicariously through them! all the craziness, none of the withdrawal)

Knowledge is power. If people still want to fuck themselves up, at least they do it with real knowledge and the decision will be a more informed one.

 

[Invalid Usename]

first time was myths about meth psychosis and stories.

That's actually in a seprate thread where I wrote a paper on meth related psychosis:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=201632&r=38

It is directly related to the work going on in this thread, but needed to be in its own space for the time being.

heh, you have changed the topic of this thread like 3 times...

It's all connected really, it has just been evolving as time has gone on.

The real (but initially, only implied) purpose of the thread was to begin to establish what is factual and not, and provide a pathway to avoid getting into trouble. (You'll note that my third post is where I first introduced the notion of the four risk factors).

Where we have gotten side tracked, is so many people will read just a few posts and "think" they know what is going on. Or worst, simply read the criticisms and believe that they know what is going on from they (a kind of blind leading the deaf and the dumb ).

And with that said, it is a sure bet that more poor individuals, who are solely equipted to reading the comic strips on Sunday, will pipe up in here yet again, telling us how misguided we are, and how evil the drug is. Not having any clue that their comment has nothing to do with our intended purpose, and is apples and oranges. :D

its like you are trying to decieve a way to compile a new type of FAQ into one thread or your own study. ;p

Not really. This specific thread is more or less a discussion/work area. Even the notion of "Frequently Ask Questions" doesn't fit because the nature of an FAQ is informational only.

What is in the works here is a guidelines, the format of which I first proposed a few days ago here:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?postid=3152695#post3152695

It will be a user manual, if you will, for those who have already decided to use the drug. The manual's purpose will be to isolate the discrete events which contributes to an acquired dependency, and how to respond to them.

People develop drug dependencies while not being aware of the cues indicating that its construction is in progress. By being aware of them, and having a set of responses to take, one is less likely to establish the neurological framework of an addiction.

Through out the entire guidelines, the first and most important rule to follow will be "planning" single drug sessions in advance, and then providing at least several weeks in between for the reward loop circuits that were established by the drug session to disperse (a natural neurological tendency towards stasis).

Whether the "session" be for one day, or for a whole weekend, it is critical that the brain has evough time to "cleanse" itself of the reward-loop network which is built up.


At the same time, those who don't care if they are going to acquire a dependency will get one anyway. The guidelines are not intended for that group.


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[Synapse999]

Ah, there is 3 posts.
Yeah, that is where the scattered amphetamine mind has issues ;p
From the first, didn't notice anything else. Have to put each part together now heh.

Where we have gotten side tracked, is so many people will read just a few posts and "think" they know what is going on. Or worst, simply read the criticisms and believe that they know what is going on from they (a kind of blind leading the deaf and the dumb

Thats why i told myself to avoid it altogether at start. (becaues So many times good knowledge and guidence is lost in the middle of an 8 page thread of fluff....but replying becomes habitual ;p).

People develop drug dependencies while not being aware of the cues indicating that its construction is in progress. By being aware of them, and having a set of responses to take, one is less likely to establish the neurological framework of an addiction.
Through out the entire guidelines, the first and most important rule to follow will be "planning" single drug sessions in advance, and then providing at least several weeks in between for the reward loop circuits that were established by the drug session to disperse (a natural neurological tendency towards stasis).

This above, is the concept and reason i have been working with for myself for past 2-3 years in use. Spending the amp driven dedication towards this.
I had interviened certain habitual routines before research, that out of logic and basic info seemed right. Even when a couple years ago....i had doctor questioning me on why i would always stop on weekends. take month off etc. (this is different already now, and made known as good practice).


i'm pleased to see somebody with a mind who can organize this layout accurately...attempt it. I'll input what i can...hopefully to further help understand/add in variables that are of use.

At the same time, those who don't care if they are going to acquire a dependency will get one anyway. The guidelines are not intended for that group

Well, from what i been reading so far...getting a gist of your intentions and goals. This all will prove...that for most people it still may not stop the "dependency" concept...depending on your definition of it. as i saw from your 4 risk factors...you can see how its hard to implement these variables together..to truely get an outcome.
But i believe it slows the process,dimishes it, keeps a person self-aware, and creating healthy habits to a bad addiction..instead of worse ones.
i.e. eating,sleeping, etc. To point it comes natural to keep the stasis..the balance.

So in turn, if they don't care about being dependant or not. They will end up reading it on some amp induced night...and relate/notice..and follow for a better good.

hate walkin in on middle of things, so i'll stop here. and read again/see where you at right now.


Sorry for so long. - and for repeating anything already gone over.
which i will delete promptly if noticed.

 

[Invalid Usename]

I haven't raised this issue yet (I've been holding off until it can be worked into the process we have unfolding), but it is going to be critical for those who have had a methamphetamine dependency to contribute their experiences of going from "interested user" to "chronic user."

There is a good deal of knowledge to be obtained from such experiences (so long as those who are sharing are of a mind to look at the process with a critical eye).


Where I am at something of an advantage here is that I've worked in epidemiology in the past, and am comfortable in approaching health problems from the standpoint that I am taking.

 

[Synapse999]

Heh, edited a few things out while you were responding it looks. Was branching to much at once, cause i havn't got pinned down where your at.
don't want discussion trailing off current point of intrest.

My bad.

 

[Invalid Usename]

Your not bad, and your posts are not too long. :D
Everything re-read and noted


The are three notions that I'll be presenting in the guidelines:

1) Planning drug sessions in advance (rather than allowing them to "happen")

2) Providing [at least] several weeks in between drug sessions

3) Only having enough drug on hand to supply the planned drug session (this prevents casual elective use from occurring)


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[Insane Platypus]

Meth inhibits sex.

I can assure you it certainly does not

*has pleasant flashbacks*

 

[drug related]

all i know is i have taken all kinds of meth every way you can cept banging it. and its way low on my personal fav drug list..

the smoking of ice is fun tho. but nothing to write home to mom about.

 

[Invalid Usename]

The more people that I talk with the less inclined I am to believe that methamphetamine is universally addictive. This appears to be the case with many drugs which are traditionally considered addictive.

Over the past several weeks I have been trying to find people who are of the "invisible" group who I have mentioned. I have been finding some, several of which have been using meth recreationally since the late 90's. They are functional in that they are employed (several are executives), and only use meth occasionally. None of them seemed to suffer from compulsive drug seeking behaviors.

I would be curious to hear what exactly occurred to people who have experienced a methamphetamine addiction. When did you first notice that you had a craving? How did you respond to it?



EDIT: Oh, and anyone who just comes in out of the clear blue sky to say something like:

Dat methfedmean! She be da bad mammy! She dun do cum n' take you out your bed. Den you gots noten buut hurten afta dat!

Uhh Huh! Uhh Huh!

is obligated to moon a police car.

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[NikkiNumberNine]

A really excellent, well-thought-out thread. Thanks for posting this.

And yes, I'm a casual, non-addicted user.

 

[geetered]

3/4 of the ppl I know that use meth, are not addicts. Meth hasnt destroyed there life in any way, just a fun drug to use every now and then.