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Methamphetamine - inexperienced - Is this it? A drug experiment featuring every MOA.

jykkE

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My drug experience is pretty large, at least compared to people that I know. Heroin, cocaine, crack, ecstacy, pills of all sorts colors shapes & sizes, benzos, psychedelics of all types, methadone, all used rigoursly both by themselves and in all sorts of combinations and methods (smoking, insufflation, IV, IM, etc). But I am inexperienced when it comes to the substance called methamphetamine, mostly due to the stigma surrounding both the drug and its users.

My roommate owed me $20 for some coke I that I had lent him on credit. Yesterday he had traded an old laptop (that he didnt need or use anymore, he isnt a junkie [anymore]) for a load of beautiful meth from a friend that recently started slinging. Nice, large shards. Obviously made with quality in mind. I opted to take a dub for ice instead of cash as I was a curious about this drug. It is the only hard drug I hadn't used. I say every MOA in the title, even though I didn't plug or eat it, and I stand by that because I say that both of those routes are a waste of good and clean shards so I chose to ignore them. Plus I don't like putting things in my butt :), exit only.

Starting quantity approximately .2g high quality methamphetamine.

T+0h0m :: I started out by IV'ing about .05g. Slight increase in heartrate is felt about one minute in, nothing major. My friend had told me that methamphetamine, when IV'd, takes longer to come on compared to cocaine IV'd, which weirded me a bit, but guess thats how it works.

T+0h10m-30m :: Within the next 20 minutes following a 10 minute break to let the effects occur, I proceeded to smoke the remaining .15g off foil in small bumps. Very light rush, again nothing major.

Thinking maybe I needed a larger hit to feel something, I gave him a few bucks for a large hit.

T+0h45m :: I smoked a larger bit, all in one hit, held it in, and released. A little bit of a rush, albeit still small, nothing lasting.

T+1h0m :: I end the session snorting a line that he gave me (0.05g), still nothing impressive.

T+1h30m :: Write this TR...heartrate slightly elevated, but nothing impressive. Fiending for some sort of real rush. Call cocaine connect, he should come through later :).

From what I've read and been told though, there is some cross-tolerance between cocaine and methampetamine. I usually have a coke session at least one night a week, mostly two though, where I usually will use between a gram and 1.5. I had an IV cocaine session two nights before this where I IV'd 1.5 grams of primo blow and this seems to have had an effect on tonights experiment. That, my friends, is what we call a variable LOL. I may try this another time in the future, if I happen to get a heavier sack of ice, to properly try it out the right way (in binge fashion), but doubt that will happen as I'd rather spend money on other things. I can get it relatively cheap for Atlanta prices since our friend recently started selling it, but he also slings the best girl I've ever used, and cocaine seems to have more off the effects that I look for :).

Be safe, know your body, know your drug, know your dose.
Peace.

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hey jeff,

thanks for posting...

I used to get shards from around atl here so I know they are good. Clear little rock hard crystals.

I very much dislike meth these days though...it almost destroyed my life.

yucky stuff.

I will try 4-fluoro-amphetamine though someday and I use amphetamine for study purposes occasionally.

peace and take her easy with that stuff,
samadhi
 
thanks for your peaceful message andy.

I definitely know the effects of addiction and will without a doubt keep myself in check. while ive been through my heroin addiction, my roommate had a battle with methamphetamine himself (while his addiction was shorter in length than mine, it was much more intense, he owned his own house and went without electricity for 6 months) so his experiences, coupled with my own, keeps me on edge and watchful over the battle, between drugs and myself, for control of my life. especially since i dont seem to really have a preference anymore.

When I was on heroin, thats all I did day in and day out. I would do cocaine sparingly, but everything else just seemed to pale compared to the brown dragon. Now that I don't do that and am on methadone, I've seemed to have fallen in love, again, with cocaine. I used it quite a bit before heroin, especially since in those days I sold xanax and klonopin and always had a benzo cushion to fall back on, but in those days just snorted it so I didn't do it compulsively. I guess I'm just in love with the rush that accompanies IV.

Holy shit...I'm rambling. Maybe this is the effect of methamphetamine with the weird cross-tolerance from the cocaine. I still really don't feel very much, my heartbeat is still slightly higher than normal, but I just feel the need to type every detail out.

anyways, andy, peace and can't wait til thursday. its going to rock and will definitely be worthy of a TR for sure ;).
jykkE
 
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If your looking for a decent rush 0.2 - 0.3g IV is a good dose. Don't expect it to compare with IV coke but it will last a lot longer.
 
Cocaine and methamphetamine, while both powerful stimulants, are very different.
Snorting cocaine, IV'ing it and freebasing (smoking) it are also distinct highs, while eating, snorting or vaporizing ice are more similar to one another than different.

For me, a good dose of shards is 100mg to 250mg, vaporized or smoked, at a time. However, most IV meth users I've known preferred 500mg per shot. Some people involuntarily cough when the injection goes through; others spontaneously ejaculate.

The high from methamphetamine is like coffee but much more intense and long lasting. It is somewhat subtle, especially when compared to cocaine, but keep using it and you will likely learn to appreciate the high more and more.

As for harm reduction, remember that staying awake for more than 2 to 3 nights in a row is a path to temporary sleep deprivation induced psychosis. This is less of a problem with cocaine and its short half life.

A good shot of cocaine IV leads to bell ringing in the ears and so will smoking a good rock, while snorting high quality cocaine leads to a pleasant taste and numbness in the mucousal regions of the nose and throat. Post usage nasal congestion is a drawback of insuffulated cocaine.

Overall, both cocaine and methamphetamine are highly desirable drugs. A good meth binge can increase concentration powers that lend themselves to prolific writing or painting, for example, that could never be achieved without drugs by ordinary means.

Enjoy!
 
^ You are kidding yourself if you think methamphetamine will do anything for you inthe long run but destroy your concentration powers as you put it. I speak from personal experience.
 
Yes, if it is impure or if you overabuse it will, but like Oscar Wilde said, "Moderation in all things, including moderation."
 
well I was getting very pure meth but I still had problems! Maybe I'm just projecting my problems/downfalls onto others, but I really had problems, it started as a weekend thing and eventually progressed to a midweek thing, and then.... :(

but yeah, I guess some might be able to control it. I've always had a hard time keeping out of the cookie jar. Stay safe please!

samadhi
 
If you lead a sedate lifestyle and don't really care about your physical health that much meth will snatch you up faster than you think.

IMO the only way to use hard drugs in moderation is to be a dedicated athlete, that way you realize what imense harm they are doing and will avoid excessive use. If you are too hung over to hit the gym you know your in too deep.
 
^ hey now that you mention it, it does seem like one of the strongest reasons I restrain my drug use: I want to feel healthy and strong and be able to be an active person.

Good point!
 
Update :: March 26, 2008

I originally had tonights experience with methamphetamine, my second dance with it, featuring the three MOAs yet again, posted here to show how much even a slight cocaine tolerance can have on meth, but for a couple of reasons I decided to delete it and to let it have its own thread:
--> Methamphetamine - inexperienced - Meth: take 2 <--
 
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samadhi_smiles said:
I will try 4-fluoro-amphetamine though someday and I use amphetamine for study purposes occasionally.

What differences does 4-fluoro-amphetamine have compared with meth/amphetamine?
 
The high from methamphetamine is like coffee but much more intense and long lasting. It is somewhat subtle, especially when compared to cocaine, but keep using it and you will likely learn to appreciate the high more and more.

The high from methamphetamine is definately reminiscent of caffeine when eaten, but when IV'd I would say methamphetamine ceases to become comparable with coffee.

In this case I can't help but think half a point (.05of a gram) was just not enough meth. I remember the first shot of meth I had was a bit over a point (0.1 of a gram) of high quality gear and it just about blew my damn head off. But perhaps it's not as good meth, or a tolerance has developed. Or perhaps you just don't like meth very much...
 
samadhi_smiles said:
well I was getting very pure meth but I still had problems! Maybe I'm just projecting my problems/downfalls onto others, but I really had problems, it started as a weekend thing and eventually progressed to a midweek thing, and then.... :(

but yeah, I guess some might be able to control it. I've always had a hard time keeping out of the cookie jar. Stay safe please!

samadhi
you are correct in your assumption... meth, especially pure meth, has a great deal of addictive potential...

happiness > addiction
 
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