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Actually you understood fine :) I just wrote my message out really badly . . . I mean, if I downgrade from crystal down to powered speed (not as strong as ice) - will i still get a good euphoria kick that im looking for??? Or will everything be shite & a waste compared to ice ?
 
michael6120 said:
Actually you understood fine :) I just wrote my message out really badly . . . I mean, if I downgrade from crystal down to powered speed (not as strong as ice) - will i still get a good euphoria kick that im looking for??? Or will everything be shite & a waste compared to ice ?
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It's hard to say...the majority of 'speed', 'gas', 'crystals', 'shards' and so on in Aus is all just methamphetamine of varying purity levels and with a wide range of different cutters and impurities. Crystals aren't necessarily even stronger than powder/'speed'. Especially now there are so many new cutters which can be crystallised into shards, it's quite possible for crystals to be very low purity.

So really it depends on a whole lot of factors that aren't easily generalised on, it depends on the purity, and on what cutters/impurities there are, as some cutters/impurities are psychoactive and affect the high. You may find a difference in the changed ROA; snorting comes on more slowly and gently, though I've still found snorting gives the typical meth euphoria/sexual effects, just not as intense or 'rushy'.
 
^^"gas" as its called around here i.e the impure meth that most people think is a different and safer drug than ice is what I mostly use and often for sexual reasons. Orally using the stuff is pretty crap in my opinion. I inject the stuff which I also don't suggest doing but the the best route of administration for this stuff next to injecting is plugging it or mixing it with water in a 1-3ml syringe without the needle on the end then sticking it where the sun don't shine(with some lube of course!). Just try to go number 2 before you do this as ive plugged drugs before and haven't felt the need to go then when the drugs are up there im busting to go and therefor have lost drugs on one or 2 occasions. Plugging seems pretty weird to people who haven't tried it before but I get the cleanest, rushiest and most euphoric effect from plugging meth, id even go to say that its on par with smoking and lasts longer, kicks in within about 10 minutes and is probably the best way to use meth that's not shard. Believe me its a lot more euphoric and you get more of the drug into your system with plugging than what you do when used orally or snorted. If I weren't a needle addict then plugging would be my choice method of admin.

Bout to go have a little shot now, getting shouted so why not. I just want to sleep tonight so im having it early. Lets hope its a good one hey :)
 
So I was thinking of plugging some of that speed that I have. It is not particularly good but it still has a noticable effect when snorted.

Some newb questions:

Do you need to filter it before plugging or just disolve it in water and plug away?

What would be a good dose to plug? About as much as you would snort or less?

Does it give you a rush administering it this way?
 
psytaco said:
Do you need to filter it before plugging or just disolve it in water and plug away?
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No, there is no need to filter it, just dissolve the methamphetamine in water and plug it up your bum without a tip attached to a 3ml or 5ml barrel, or whatever size you can "accomodate". Beyond that, I would imagine as the bioavailability of methamphetamine is quite high when taken rectally, 99% infact, according to Wikipedia, at least. So IV is only 1% better absorbed than plugging it. I would try whatever your usual dose is if you usually whack your methamphetamine, based on that information.

Does it give you a rush administering it this way?
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Personally, I have never plugged methamphetamine, just a crap load of MDMA pills, a handful of years ago. They certainly gave a rush and came on hard when you plugged them. I'm sure you will get a rush when you utilise this ROA, I have heard many people claim to. Though, for best results, I would advise emptying your bowels prior to dosing, so it is more readily absorbed.

A. <3
 
very curious to find these answers too. . . Looks like i'll be doing the same thing until I come across some crystal. Cheers

psytaco said:
So I was thinking of plugging some of that speed that I have. It is not particularly good but it still has a noticable effect when snorted.

Some newb questions:

Do you need to filter it before plugging or just disolve it in water and plug away?

What would be a good dose to plug? About as much as you would snort or less?

Does it give you a rush administering it this way?
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First time posting on here, up late again reading meth related articles...sigh
First of all I would like to say all this bullshit about Ice is so negative is such wank, all you have to do is use your common sense and understand your surroundings, if you let the drug do the decision making you will be destroyed and it loves doing that. Ice sucks though
Im on and off this drug for 11 years now, still haven't managed to stop even though I have convinced myself Im in the process of quitting. I would say Im pretty obsessed with it at this moment in time, but its easy to stop if you want...but so hard to quit, once you taste koots the voice lives in your mind forever.
I been on a nightmarish dream which was real but seems like it didn't happen and have still for the third time I have convinced myself that its different this time and there's some pure shit that needs to be someone to adopt it and show it some love ..because Im searching for that golden shard, you know the pure one once I smoke that ill quit. or atleast get maximum health bar level 99
Ice is probably the most crazy thing you could get yourself into., you really cant even explain what it is like to someone because they wouldn't even believe you... but you all probably know this hehe, I would like to help others before she consumes your soul in any way I can.
Just found out about this N-iso stuff today...what a way to completely ruin a drug :/ f**kin not happy, as if we already didn't waste enough money on it already.
I am 100% a better person for doing Ice and alot smarter from self analysis I spend time helping people where before I couldnt give a f**k about anyone or any thing but Ice was behind it all along which is an amazing story.
I actually became a spawn child of satan for about a month where all I thought about was killing people and demonic thoughts and that was pretty hecktik to deal with for my mind.
Dont get me wrong Meth fun but it is like inviting a deamon into your mind and if your not informed you can loop out and probally do something crazy.
Still koots though and would sell my balls just for a P , so rambling hard because im on cooker train number 5 to sample only the finest diamonds in all of argile and ill dig furthur then they have ever been anyways dont forget to check behind the doors that's where they like to hide... or thats what they want you to think.
Just read this and realised I sound like a person whos just reached hard boiled egg mode.
Dont take this as Im some ratjaw from the slums who just found the internet and wants to tell everyone about everything
I know nothing!


Anyways iIm going to try and sleep HA
Always make sure you have a plan to escape the boondie burglar, they are always there.
Peace and good day.
 
bosman said:
its easy to stop if you want...but so hard to quit, once you taste koots the voice lives in your mind forever.
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Welcome to bl bosman. The cravings driven by the psychological addiction to meth are powerful, I think about it every day and would be content to sit alone in a room with the pipe, I am far past the stage where I shouldn't be doing it but do anyway; that's some pretty fucked up behaviour imo. Even informed users sometimes go loop the loop..
 
That seemed like a quality post an hour ago, yeah its a shit drug to be addicted to that's for sure. So many times Id be doing it for no reason, id be thinking no more please.
The psychosis that you get is about as close to evil and darkness you could possibly get , like datura on pcp.. Well done for making it this far, I stopped a few times for quite a while over a year on one of them but still had that crave enough to bypass my brain and get some... crusty cookrat carves carpet conditioned crumb capitalist continuous covert complex circuts commited candle clasp carried comes conveniatly, Creator, Champion code cracker, constant compliments can create conflict capiable cubbyhouse crackcommander currently certain conspiracys condem c-walking changes can carrie court cost conditions commence. collapse constraints careful collective constitution cabable civilations corrode concoured creatures can carrie cocnuts c. City cheif counsiler cesil coldcook chews cavensous cracks certainly considerering charing constantly causing cranium combustion crisp charcoal cackles carted cautionously camo cover centrism cremation credited connected coastal comuter, comical compound consumer crital currency crash can cripple curious cavecritter cyrus crime crystal cutter cheap coin confusion caster corectly comenses collosial crackclaw central cybernetics constant camera checking chin chomping chest chatterbox checking crevasas, cracks caves craving crystal corrupt chemical coughing crosscontaminated crawling confident cartographer claims cryptic cracken canible cone chamber cowered criving cathy cootscloud cannot cope chasing chunks continuously cycling convict cooked certainly countain crow cackleing comensement collecting cans crowcloud combs carparks control ceases cannot contact cerebal cortex celluar corruption closing communications.
I have no idea what this mean but it seemed revilent
 
Apart from some poor typos, I managed to read those words and make a story out of them. One involving somebody really fucking high.
 
psytaco said:
What do you mean by 'cooking'? I'm obviously not up with slang.
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A perfect example would be a chat between me n this bloke on the tail end of a big weekend.


bosman said:
That seemed like a quality post an hour ago, yeah its a shit drug to be addicted to that's for sure. So many times Id be doing it for no reason, id be thinking no more please.
The psychosis that you get is about as close to evil and darkness you could possibly get , like datura on pcp.. Well done for making it this far, I stopped a few times for quite a while over a year on one of them but still had that crave enough to bypass my brain and get some... crusty cookrat carves carpet conditioned crumb capitalist continuous covert complex circuts commited candle clasp carried comes conveniatly, Creator, Champion code cracker, constant compliments can create conflict capiable cubbyhouse crackcommander currently certain conspiracys condem c-walking changes can carrie court cost conditions commence. collapse constraints careful collective constitution cabable civilations corrode concoured creatures can carrie cocnuts c. City cheif counsiler cesil coldcook chews cavensous cracks certainly considerering charing constantly causing cranium combustion crisp charcoal cackles carted cautionously camo cover centrism cremation credited connected coastal comuter, comical compound consumer crital currency crash can cripple curious cavecritter cyrus crime crystal cutter cheap coin confusion caster corectly comenses collosial crackclaw central cybernetics constant camera checking chin chomping chest chatterbox checking crevasas, cracks caves craving crystal corrupt chemical coughing crosscontaminated crawling confident cartographer claims cryptic cracken canible cone chamber cowered criving cathy cootscloud cannot cope chasing chunks continuously cycling convict cooked certainly countain crow cackleing comensement collecting cans crowcloud combs carparks control ceases cannot contact cerebal cortex celluar corruption closing communications.
I have no idea what this mean but it seemed revilent
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Haha, like your style bud.

As stated thou, time to hit the hay. Sweet dreams lad
 
??? Is it just me or do people honestly belive aussie speed to be something other than cut meth usually freebase. Speed paste (amphetamine sulphate) is a different beast to gas and is probably slightly better than cut meth but not much in terms of health issues etc. but I love the high of amphetamine sulphate. Also speed paste can't be smoked while "gas 2.0" can be smoked?? So gas is not speed but something else. I always find people say ohhh they were on ice like it's satan himself but "gas" aka aussie speed is seen as something that's okish vs the satan-spawn that is "ice" or heroin. These are educated people in a professional role who can't understand that it's one and the same thing but to get the effect of 1 point of pure methylamphetamine hydrochloride you'd need a gram of so of "gas 2.0" as it's mostly MSM or something similar and just a hint of meth or shit meth that can't be sold as shard cause the cook fucked up somewhere or it's leftover's. Mmmm... scrap meth cook off! Just pisses me off cause back in the 60's-70's and even the 80's most speed was amphetamine sulphate and "black beauties" were meth-amphetamine in pharmacuetical form. So these professionals still carry that outdated notion in their heads?? No point trying to educate them as they will tell you "ice" works primarily on the serotonin receptor sites not the dopamine receptors (it does have mild MAOI preoperties but not enough to be an issue or for you to start hugging everyone in sight). That was from a lecturer at the school of ...... at a certain state run facility... gives me much hope for the future. As does Doctorate level text books that classify GHB as an amphetamine (liquid ecstacy anyone?) WTF??? How the fuck are people surposed to get adequate ...... care when the people treating them have a fucking degree in misinformation. Both are true and sad states of affairs I have witnessed first hand. Back to being slightly on topic. I love the feel of good quality speed paste (not easy to get here in oz) while find "gas" to be very dirty from start to finish. Anyone else start hearing odd noises (a mobile phone thats not there, muffled voices, strange clangs/bangs that never happened etc. after doing a few to many stims and being awake for 48 hours or more???? Time for some much needed sleep... maybe tomorrow. Can't spell to save myself as well.
 
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