Methamphetamine Discussion Thread 3.0

[Dorogos]

Well I ended up shooting a gram and it's the next day now and it's done something to my lungs coz I'm coughing and I got a a strong chemi taste in my mouth. More side effects then ice but not nearly as much fun and all most the same price.... Give it a miss guys.

 

[Biscuit]

^ DOROGOS: I assume you mean 0.05 in your first post; that is half a point as opposed to half a gram? Shooting half a gram of an unknown substance, is extremely dangerous. If the substance is methamphetamine, then a point for most people if it is high quality is more than enough.

Whilst your warning to fellow BLs is appreciated, there is no way for others to compare what you had and what they might be offered. There are just too many variables with crystal methamphetamine (or any other crystalline stimulant). I don't think Canberra's smaller size in comparison to the other capital cities changes this either, particularly given its relative proximity to Sydney and Melbourne.

The cloudy nature of the crystal doesn't mean it is not methamphetamine; again the variability in the appearance of such crystals is infinite. A marquis test kit wouldn't hurt, although it certainly isn't going to provide nearly all the answers to what the substance contains and its purity.

When did the cough start relative to when you first had some? and how often and over what period are you coughing? Have you slept?

Could you have taken too much? You said you had 0.5 (which as I said I assumed must be 0.05) and then a gram (?!). Which now makes me think you did shoot half a gram to begin with. Is that the total amount or another gram on top of the original amount? Over what period of time? Do you have scales and if not how do you know how much you've had?

Sounds like you could have overdone significantly and if you are feeling unwell still you should seek medical attention without delay.

 

[Diveboss5]

Hey I joined this forum because after a few failed searches over the past few weeks I still can not seem to find the answer to my problem. I am been Rx adderall, conterta, ritalin, vyvance etc for the past 14-16 years and my tolerance is just crazy high even for just studying. 120 mg vyvance is my normal as of right now ed with 20mg of adderall. I have tried meth from the darknet and I have gotten 2 different kinds both came in 1 inch most clear/white crystals and everytime I do meth (oral) it make me tingly, pins and needles, mostly on the back of my neck and it is crazy annoying so i cant focus when I am studying. I take l arginine and l citrulline for vascular constriction prevention. vit c, 5htp and ZMA before bed. Magn. throughout the day, fish oil, vit d, 1 multi vit, Calcium ect.. u name it i have it. But I really want the enjoy the meth because my tolerance is so high to everything else but I dont get the neck tingling/ pin feel on anything else other than meth and sometimes darknet speed. and I can't figure out why. I no everyone will say I need to take a break from it but I have my medical boards exam in 2 weeks and need to be on top of my game. I have had no heart problems, no other side effect from all my stim use other than cold toes every now and then. Does anyone have an educated reason for why this is happening only from the meth?

 

[g0to]

^Your vitamins are good, make sure to keep regular meals, main thing that'll cause that strung out feeling is your potassium/sodium levels being out of whack and when that sketch feeling sets in its generally too late. As to why that only happens with the meth and speed and not vyvanse, it's cause vyvanse is specifically designed to circumvent that pins and needles euphoria. If your intent is to study I would start taking lower doses to where you no longer get that effect. It's a slippery slope cause that effect of being super euphoric and motivated about doing Anything no matter what it is, is the first tolerance to develop. If you wanna keep using it for studying have to lower the dose and push your motivation internally with the meth allowing you to go into that hyperfocus state with minimal side effects. Be careful cause it sounds like your already going down that slippery slope, 120mg vyvande will make any nontolerant or slightly tolerance individual rush their balls off when it kicks in. There is no free lunch with this stuff except the first few times after each tolerance break. Be safe and mak sure to weigh the darknet stuff. NAC (N-acetyl-cysteine) is a very good supplement (antioxidant) to add to your stack btw. I take 1000-1500mg every 8hrs when I'm using (500mg a day when not) Good luck

 

[wrek3000]

quick question about some shards.I ived about 0.3 as i havent used in a while, my question is regarding the gear. Strange to me that there was no rush, but had very long legs.Being an old iv user i dont know, im quite used to the intial rush i get off having a shot and as i havent used in a while i did miss the rush but it has me confused as it kept me up so long for not a very big shot? any ideas on what it might be it was very crystally type of shards and not being able to test its got me fucked. tho i dont smoke it does burn pretty well.Just looking for any info that might help out.
Stay safe

 

[Bentoboxed]

Hey guys, new here.
I'm pretty sure I've read this entire thread, I've had it bookmarked on my phone as it provides an interesting read when I'm up.

I've been using for two years with the pipe as my choice of poison.
It started off the typical once every couple of months - once a month etc. and eventually progressed to once a week,(which is what's been going on for the last 3-4 months) with the odd bender every now & again - longest being 5 days.
90% of what I read here are 'horror stories', if you like, but I'm curious as to whether or not anybody has managed to maintain a 'healthy' balance with this particular substance.

I don't mean to 'toot my own horn' or anything, and I know you guys reading will think these are some famous last words but I feel as if I am in full control.
Basically I have only ever hit on weekends, sometimes Friday + Saturday and sometimes just the Saturday.
I always leave Sunday as my comedown day (with the exception of one time which I will never let happen again because work on the Monday was horrid) but as I am unable to get a wink of sleep I have a routine of timing my last hit for about 12pm so that I sleep by 9pm also sleeping through the worst part of my comedown.
However when I come down, I tend to embrace the feeling of it and as strange as it sounds - I do genuinely enjoy it. I guess it's mind over matter and I'm making the best of a bad situation but I have never turned to anything to help me handle the comedown.
In 2 years I've never once missed a day of work and I am surprised to say I have never once had the slightest craving during the week/when coming down.

I know it may not seem that I'm 'in control' seeing as it's become a weekly thing, and not to make excuses as I have no reason to lie to any of you or myself for that matter, but the only reason I do it is because I love the high, the euphoria and the conversations the boys and I get into. I love the whole experience. I could go on for a while as there are many other reasons as well but I'm sure you get the gist of what I'm trying to explain.
We split 1.0g between 3 of us at a very generous price so as an added bonus it's not completely breaking the bank.

Obviously I wouldn't recommend this to anybody reading either, I have just been thinking about it this morning and would like to know if anyone else is kind of in the same boat I guess.


I have always thought that one thing I have realised from regular use is that the media portrays it a lot worse than it really is - but after a lot of thought about it this morning, is that just me?

 

[zephyr]

It depends on the person and their level of use and ability to stop using.

Ive been to hell and back on the gear. Ive done all levels of use.

The media lumps all drug users onto one category of deatbeat.

A lot of people can maintain once a week or fortnight use for ages. Some cant.

For me, I was using an 8ball a week for months and that did not end well. This was after years of social use only, maybe a gram a week or so. The availability of it at one stage was just so easy and i moved beyond social use to antisocial alone use.

Its so important to treat meth as a treat for now and then and not get hooked.

Its so hard to pick up the pieces and move on after losing your shit on it.

So yeah weekly use is good but if you go a weekend without is it a big deal? If yes then maybe a longer break is in order.

 

[Bentoboxed]

It depends on the person and their level of use and ability to stop using.

Ive been to hell and back on the gear. Ive done all levels of use.

The media lumps all drug users onto one category of deatbeat.

A lot of people can maintain once a week or fortnight use for ages. Some cant.

For me, I was using an 8ball a week for months and that did not end well. This was after years of social use only, maybe a gram a week or so. The availability of it at one stage was just so easy and i moved beyond social use to antisocial alone use.

Its so important to treat meth as a treat for now and then and not get hooked.

Its so hard to pick up the pieces and move on after losing your shit on it.

So yeah weekly use is good but if you go a weekend without is it a big deal? If yes then maybe a longer break is in order.

I find that myself personally there's no big deal in missing a week or a month for that matter, like last week for example I had a tattoo booked so I stayed sober and it didn't cross my mind once. I leave the stash in the top of my cupboard and go on about my life, until the boys and I meet up. During the week I have no urge to even have the slightest amount but I guess that's 'cause I have my mind set on keeping my job etc. and working in a roof space is warm enough without the effects and added strains of a few points.

However in saying that I'm worried about a friend of mine (literally a friend - None of this "SWIM" bullshit I'm simply asking advice) who quickly went from weekly to 3-4 times a week using. He regularly mixes this with multiple MDMA caps on a night out (our tolerance is sitting at about 3-4 caps lately) and just last night he's gone and mixed it with MDMA & cocaine as well.
I spoke to him today and told him it's dangerous to mix stimulants together, explained it can cause SS and worst case scenario - death - to which his response was
"Do you honestly think I care?"
Don't get me wrong he's not suicidal, we've essentially been family for years so I'd definitely know if he was heading down that road. If I had to describe his personality I'd say he's an egotistical asshole who genuinely has no care in the world about almost anything.

We are both 20 (still practically babies so I won't pretend to know everything because minding & if my information is flawed/you have a different - more logical opinion - please do correct me as the more I learn the better as far as I'm concerned) however he doesn't have a job, his parents hand him absolutely everything in a silver platter hence his attitude towards life and he doesn't seem to have the power that I do to say no. I left a ball at his house a little while ago now (on a Sunday evening) just to avoid carrying it with me and I return on the Friday to find out he'd finished it.
I'm obviously worried and feel the need to help him, however every time I bring up the topic he gets defensive. He claims he has cravings but isn't addicted.
Myself & the other friend have agreed to stop hitting it around him but we know how available it is to the 'friend in need'. He blows whatever money he has each week on as much as he can get. We don't want him to get in any serious trouble with 'tick' and more importantly we don't want a drug to be the thing that rips our friendship apart. So is there any further advice anybody can offer?

I'll end this off quickly, as I am currently still on (thank god for the day off of work tomorrow) & could type forever.

I don't want to see him go down that road & I'm not naive enough to think that just because I can say 'no' that he should be able to as well so I certainly don't put that pressure on him - but he doesn't seem to want our help and I don't understand why.
I've been thinking it could be shame/embarrassment but swallowing his pride should be a small price to pay to save him taking a massive trip down south that evidently far to many other people have taken.

 

[andyturbo]

Good answer^

Welcome to Bluelight Bentoboxed! Always good to have some new faces its geting quiet these days.
I have to agree ^ and say its a personal answer. Time and ammount is really not a factor. Its what impact the current of both
Are having on your life.
I don't suggest increasing usage ever to anyone, but I'm going to use my circumstances explain what I said above and my effect.

I smoke everyday, and have been for a while. I don't get comedowns because I'm never really coming down. But not geting high like it was during recreational use. Other than the first burn after waking up. That still produces a noticeable pleasant high. If I go out and for some reason I either forget my glassy or its not appropriate where I might need to go say 9am-5pm without, this isn't a problem at all. I don't get cravings or any real noticeable fiening. It more the occasional happy thinking of geting home and relaxing and having a puff will swing past but its nothing noticeable.

For me personally, my quality of life has improved dramatically from when I was doing the Thurs/fri-sun night thing then a few days off *repeat* that fucked me up bad. I had cravings, comedowns, lost interest in most things. The thing is during the weekend stage I would smoke more just for the hell of it. Didn't care about efficiency, it was all about geting fucked up, blowing huge clouds (wasting gear!) and passing around for the next round. My quality of life, finances and health were significantly worse than my current less intense more routine usage.
My 2c. Again in no way do I advise anyone to ever increase usage.
Cheers

A.T

 

[andyturbo]

Yay someone else is awake. Cheers �� *with the glassys and tokes lol*

Man I'm feeling you as many others will re your mate. Its a very tough and hard situation. You have done things
Right and all you can do as much as he wont like it, rather than hinting or going easyer as that didn't work be
Extreamly nice and caring, not in a attacking way and make sure he knows your saying this because u value his friendship
So much and his like a brother ect ect...then just straight out say Man I know you will get pissed or whatever but from
An outsiders point of view, who knows you Extreamly well I'm really worried about you and your usage. The
Denial will start, at this stage always try and keep a chilled and caring vibe even when his gets angry other wise it will
Go nowhere. Last past is just politely but sternly, use specific examples off the changes over time. It may surprise you.
I guarantee not on the spot. But whenever it is that his alone and goes to rest. Thoughts speeding threw his over stimulated CNS and mind. These are the times when the fighter jet that's been flying around has too land and refuel...that thoughts take over his minds distractions rather than action. It hopefully will be the time when he does start thinking about your words. Help only ever cones to those who are willing to accept it. Its hard, but you've done your best effects as a mate.
Hope it turns out okay mate.

A.T

 

[Bentoboxed]

Good answer^

Welcome to Bluelight Bentoboxed! Always good to have some new faces its geting quiet these days.
I have to agree ^ and say its a personal answer. Time and ammount is really not a factor. Its what impact the current of both
Are having on your life.
I don't suggest increasing usage ever to anyone, but I'm going to use my circumstances explain what I said above and my effect.

I smoke everyday, and have been for a while. I don't get comedowns because I'm never really coming down. But not geting high like it was during recreational use. Other than the first burn after waking up. That still produces a noticeable pleasant high. If I go out and for some reason I either forget my glassy or its not appropriate where I might need to go say 9am-5pm without, this isn't a problem at all. I don't get cravings or any real noticeable fiening. It more the occasional happy thinking of geting home and relaxing and having a puff will swing past but its nothing noticeable.

For me personally, my quality of life has improved dramatically from when I was doing the Thurs/fri-sun night thing then a few days off *repeat* that fucked me up bad. I had cravings, comedowns, lost interest in most things. The thing is during the weekend stage I would smoke more just for the hell of it. Didn't care about efficiency, it was all about geting fucked up, blowing huge clouds (wasting gear!) and passing around for the next round. My quality of life, finances and health were significantly worse than my current less intense more routine usage.
My 2c. Again in no way do I advise anyone to ever increase usage.
Cheers

A.T

Thanks for the welcome!
I think it'd be safe to say I've read every page of this thread over the last 3 weeks while I've been with the boys.
I've told them about it and they're not at all interested in it but I would say I've learnt a fair amount just from reading over it and all in all its just really interesting. Like I said I won't pretend to know everything, no one likes that guy
I'm also always open to new ideas & opinions etc.
My intention to join wasn't to post any sort of 'sob story' like above, so I do apologise for that, however it popped into my mind as I was typing and thought I may as well get it out there and see what else I can do for him. I just thought there was more I could learn about this stuff which is always a good thing in my opinion

I've never thought about further increasing my usage. I'm happy where it is and fortunately I'm not experiencing anything you mentioned above when you were sort of in the same routine except obviously - comedowns - which I personally don't mind, I rather embrace the feeling (especially the tingles at random parts of the body) and chill out which is probably strange to read. I guess I've always seen the cup half full.

I feel you in saying:
"The thing is during the weekend stage I would smoke more just for the hell of it. Didn't care about efficiency, it was all about geting fucked up, blowing huge clouds (wasting gear!)"
But only to some extent. I don't feel as if we smoke more for the hell of it, as I mentioned in my first post we only split 1.0g which we get at a generous price so my financial situation isn't at all bad, it's cheaper than a night out drinking if I'm being honest.
I had no idea we were disregarding efficiency, I'm assuming this isn't the place to give me some tips on that - would you mind PMing me ways to increase efficiency as I am all for getting the most out of my sesh unlike the other two who are simply obsessed with clouds.

I know it's a personal thing and it will be different for everyone, but I'm curious as to whether you think that what you experienced while in this routine would be 'universal' to everyone as time goes on?

In reply to your second post, thanks you the ideas. That was basically our next step but we weren't sure if it was the best thing to do. I think I needed just that little bit of reassurance that it's not going to make things worse. I just hope I can et through to him. Thanks for the kind words though Andy - I also hope he'll turn out okay but with saying that, I have complete faith that he knows the right decision and is smart/strong enough to make it. Whatever happens I'll obviously be here to help him out as that's what friends are for but I also refuse to be dragged down with him. Hoping for a the most positive outcome possible

 

[zephyr]

I find that myself personally there's no big deal in missing a week or a month for that matter, like last week for example I had a tattoo booked so I stayed sober and it didn't cross my mind once. I leave the stash in the top of my cupboard and go on about my life, until the boys and I meet up. During the week I have no urge to even have the slightest amount but I guess that's 'cause I have my mind set on keeping my job etc. and working in a roof space is warm enough without the effects and added strains of a few points.

However in saying that I'm worried about a friend of mine (literally a friend - None of this "SWIM" bullshit I'm simply asking advice) who quickly went from weekly to 3-4 times a week using. He regularly mixes this with multiple MDMA caps on a night out (our tolerance is sitting at about 3-4 caps lately) and just last night he's gone and mixed it with MDMA & cocaine as well.
I spoke to him today and told him it's dangerous to mix stimulants together, explained it can cause SS and worst case scenario - death - to which his response was
"Do you honestly think I care?"
Don't get me wrong he's not suicidal, we've essentially been family for years so I'd definitely know if he was heading down that road. If I had to describe his personality I'd say he's an egotistical asshole who genuinely has no care in the world about almost anything.

We are both 20 (still practically babies so I won't pretend to know everything because minding & if my information is flawed/you have a different - more logical opinion - please do correct me as the more I learn the better as far as I'm concerned) however he doesn't have a job, his parents hand him absolutely everything in a silver platter hence his attitude towards life and he doesn't seem to have the power that I do to say no. I left a ball at his house a little while ago now (on a Sunday evening) just to avoid carrying it with me and I return on the Friday to find out he'd finished it.
I'm obviously worried and feel the need to help him, however every time I bring up the topic he gets defensive. He claims he has cravings but isn't addicted.
Myself & the other friend have agreed to stop hitting it around him but we know how available it is to the 'friend in need'. He blows whatever money he has each week on as much as he can get. We don't want him to get in any serious trouble with 'tick' and more importantly we don't want a drug to be the thing that rips our friendship apart. So is there any further advice anybody can offer?

I'll end this off quickly, as I am currently still on (thank god for the day off of work tomorrow) & could type forever.

I don't want to see him go down that road & I'm not naive enough to think that just because I can say 'no' that he should be able to as well so I certainly don't put that pressure on him - but he doesn't seem to want our help and I don't understand why.
I've been thinking it could be shame/embarrassment but swallowing his pride should be a small price to pay to save him taking a massive trip down south that evidently far to many other people have taken.

You probably wont recoup the cost of the leftovers but that does not mean you should forget it as mates should not do that.

An old mate did a similar thing with a hold for safekeeping and had the nerve she did it as a favour to stop me from getting too fucked up on it. That was really thoughtful of her hey.

Id love to tell you how that was resolved but probably not a good idea .

Just make sure since he did that he doesnt get the chance to do it again and from what you posted its in your interest to not partake around him . Its not worth the risk.

If he asks for help eventually as a mate then all you can do is be there for him . But you cant do much else until he admits he needs it.

 

[Bentoboxed]

You probably wont recoup the cost of the leftovers but that does not mean you should forget it as mates should not do that.

An old mate did a similar thing with a hold for safekeeping and had the nerve she did it as a favour to stop me from getting too fucked up on it. That was really thoughtful of her hey.

Id love to tell you how that was resolved but probably not a good idea .

Just make sure since he did that he doesnt get the chance to do it again and from what you posted its in your interest to not partake around him . Its not worth the risk.

If he asks for help eventually as a mate then all you can do is be there for him . But you cant do much else until he admits he needs it.

I'm not fussed about the money or anything like that, he came clean right away - not that that makes it okay, but I've always said that I don't want money, drugs etc. to get in the way of our friendship 'cause that can turn sour really fast.
Ever since then I've always held the stash myself when around him. This weekend I did catch him packing a glassy on his own accord from my stuff unfortunately, he knows he's welcome to smoke with me (I hate smoking alone) but it's common courtesy to ask.
But that's whatever, I let it go and move forward, it's not worth losing a friendship.

I managed to have a chat with him last night (early hours of this morning) which was good, he seemed like he took in what I had to say but only time will really tell

"Id love to tell you how that was resolved but probably not a good idea ."
This ha me intruiged, I love a good story

 

[zephyr]

Yeah me too. I got heaps . Too many really.

You know you wanna help your mate yeah?

I know its not the money. But it kinda is as ge has no job and is being given handouts from his folks and is a slight asshole already right ?

Its hard with a mate who you like to smoke with but you are also giving him handouts doing that.

Hope Im not sounding abrupt

 

[Bentoboxed]

Yeah me too. I got heaps . Too many really.

You know you wanna help your mate yeah?

I know its not the money. But it kinda is as ge has no job and is being given handouts from his folks and is a slight asshole already right ?

Its hard with a mate who you like to smoke with but you are also giving him handouts doing that.

Hope Im not sounding abrupt

No not at all, complete understand where you're coming from and that's exactly what the other friend I mentioned and I spoke about. He does put in of course, even though we've no idea where he gets the money, but he ends up with a fair amount more than what he pays for.

In the future I guess it's best we don't do it around him, however there's nothing stopping him getting it on tick and I worry about that.

I think I might give it a rest for a while in any case, partly 'cause I want to see if I end up with even the slightest craving. The day that happens is the day I'm done with this for a long, long while - if not forever - I'm not naive enough to think it can't/won't happen to me.

 

[zephyr]

You seem to have a good head on your shoulders mate.

If you stop doing it around him he will notice and prolly whinge but its not bloody free ffs. Having a seagull around waiting for a freebie is annoying at best.

 

[Bentoboxed]

You seem to have a good head on your shoulders mate.

If you stop doing it around him he will notice and prolly whinge but its not bloody free ffs. Having a seagull around waiting for a freebie is annoying at best.

Hopefully it stays that way

Yeah that's more than likely, and certainly not. He's also the type that prefers to smoke it as fast as possible as well - which doesn't sit with me as I love to space it out, enjoy the high and know that I have enough for the time I planned to do it. Otherwise I feel uncomfortable, no idea why that is.
Anyways back on topic, it was all well and good at the start but as we started buying more he has started to feel like a 'seagull' and it feels like he expects it which shits me to tears lately. Especially when he puts in a fifth of what we do.

I apologise for going on & on, I think I needed to vent before someone else cops the tension that's built up over this weekends antics.

 

[Draven26]

Have you guys found Mucana Pruriens to work at all in restoring dopamine when you're using or when you're clean and sober and want to recover fast if you've been on a month long binge but you have a job that you want to keep but don't want to be lethargic? Been clean for almost 3 weeks and caffeine hasn't been doing anything just like modafinil hasn't. But I take a multi vitamin, fish oil, magnesium, zinc and calcium plus vitamin d, biotin, msm, I eat 4-6 times a day high protein, medium carb, low fats, and I've been getting 5-7 hours of sleep everyday but I would prefer to just sleep for 10-15 hours for as long as it takes till I can recover but I don't have the luxury of doing that because of work. Any suggestions? Will the Mucana Pruriens speed up the process of recovery by helping restore my lost dopamine?

 

[Bentoboxed]

Have you guys found Mucana Pruriens to work at all in restoring dopamine when you're using or when you're clean and sober and want to recover fast if you've been on a month long binge but you have a job that you want to keep but don't want to be lethargic? Been clean for almost 3 weeks and caffeine hasn't been doing anything just like modafinil hasn't. But I take a multi vitamin, fish oil, magnesium, zinc and calcium plus vitamin d, biotin, msm, I eat 4-6 times a day high protein, medium carb, low fats, and I've been getting 5-7 hours of sleep everyday but I would prefer to just sleep for 10-15 hours for as long as it takes till I can recover but I don't have the luxury of doing that because of work. Any suggestions? Will the Mucana Pruriens speed up the process of recovery by helping restore my lost dopamine?

Sourcing from a friend of mine who's studying medicine - her understanding is that due to your brain releasing so much of the chemical, it adjusts to the low amount it stores. This is of course with regular use not light use.
She also says that I never completely replenishes & that at some stage you run out completely.
I'm not overly sure how reliable that information is but a couple articles that I have read have backed it up however it takes YEARS of abuse.

Anyway, a couple of things that helped me were omega 3 fatty acids which you mentioned you were taking fish oil tablets etc. but the main thing for me was boosting my daily protein intake. I don't remember exactly the recommended grams of protein:weight ratio was however I didn't bother with it either, I simply binged on protein every day.

No matter what you do though, restoring dopamine is always going to be a long process. My motivation has always been to keep my job and it's worked for me the last 2 years

Hopefully I helped a little bit (this is based on my understanding and experience) & hopefully someone else may have more information for you.

 

[Draven26]

Sourcing from a friend of mine who's studying medicine - her understanding is that due to your brain releasing so much of the chemical, it adjusts to the low amount it stores. This is of course with regular use not light use.
She also says that I never completely replenishes & that at some stage you run out completely.
I'm not overly sure how reliable that information is but a couple articles that I have read have backed it up however it takes YEARS of abuse.

Anyway, a couple of things that helped me were omega 3 fatty acids which you mentioned you were taking fish oil tablets etc. but the main thing for me was boosting my daily protein intake. I don't remember exactly the recommended grams of protein:weight ratio was however I didn't bother with it either, I simply binged on protein every day.

No matter what you do though, restoring dopamine is always going to be a long process. My motivation has always been to keep my job and it's worked for me the last 2 years

Hopefully I helped a little bit (this is based on my understanding and experience) & hopefully someone else may have more information for you.

Oh well yeah of course I'm definitely keeping my job.. I just hate having that thought of going back just so I'm not lethargic. Modafinil isn't working and neither is caffeine. I have Tramadol for pain and that seems to be the only thing that's working somewhat okay.. I mean it used to work great for energy and for pain relief but I guess relapsing for that whole month and a half screwed everything up. And I keep my protein intake high! When I'm at work if I don't have the time to get in a quick meal on my lunch I'll just bring 2 naked juices with me and a banana or an apple or something. And I try to work out 3-4 times a week. Before I was doing 5 times a week. But my whole body is wrecked and I have so many back problems. Yeah I'll keep taking my supps and I'll do more research on the Mucana. I figured 2 weeks would of been enough but if I need to I'll just ask my manager if she could give me a week off because of my back. She's pretty understanding in that sense.. but you gotta make money!! And no.. not to spend on dope lol damn if only it didn't have any side effects and just gave you that nice energy boost and block out physical pain that you deal with.. that's really all I was trying to do was perform better and not feel the pain in my back and legs.