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First post as well after reading the majority of the thread....I'm in Houston and first tried Tina about 6 months ago...

My question is I don't get near the rush or high when smoking as I do snorting or slamming....and it's not the Tina I've had multiple people with much more ice experience tell me it's great and when I snort it I'm high af for 6 hours.....smoking just keeps me up and not eating.....nothing like the bam you get slamming coughing your ass off....I've done pretty much everything out there my preference always being narcos and dro and occasionally the girl since we literally get fish scale here in Houston....first stop after crossing the border

Any ideas why? I'm doing right and even confirmed it with the thread on this site about properly smoking.....Any ideas?


Everyone is different when is comes to smoking meth as people have different breathing ability. That's my take anyway, Ill tell you something interesting for the life of me if I smoke my meth out of the typical ice/crack pipe the ice doesn't affect me any where near enough as if I smoke it off Aluminium tin foil the way you chase the dragon with smack. I know it's a wasteful method compared to how efficient the crack pipe is but I've had nights where I've smoked a couple of points out of the pipe and it didn't kick in at all and I;ve fallen asleep a few hours after blowing out mouth fulls of smoke.

But on the flip side the very first time 15 years ago I tried meth I was overseas at some of my cousins friends place in Chicago usa and I smoked it out of a light bulb which was interesting considering I had no tolerance what so ever. I only had 3 puffs but was rushing all night.



If snorting hits you harder and has more legs 76dmw76 then use your meth that way, but if your cashed up maybe give smoking your meth off Aluminium foil a try and see if it hits you harder from that technique, All you do if get some foil and fold it in half, put some meth in the crease of where you folded it and light a lighter under the foil and breath the smoke in with a rolled up piece of laminated paper. Take away pizza or Chinese restaurant menu's usually work good for rolling up.

Maybe also if your feeling adventurous try smoking your meth out of a light bulb to see how it affects you

http://www.smokingmeth.net/How-to-smoke-meth-with-a-light-bulb-.aspx

Best of luck 76dmw76
 
I still smoke out of globes quite reguarly. Iv made it into a fine art lol can knock 1 up quick with just a pair of scissors or knive. or go the whole way and melt a stem n blow hole in globe so its pretty much a standard crack pipe.
Nothing gets me more fucked up then a 2 - 4 p hit IV. Loooove it!!! also love throwing in 3 p in the pipe and just chilling for a hour smoking it
 
I still smoke out of globes quite reguarly. Iv made it into a fine art lol can knock 1 up quick with just a pair of scissors or knive. or go the whole way and melt a stem n blow hole in globe so its pretty much a standard crack pipe.
Nothing gets me more fucked up then a 2 - 4 p hit IV. Loooove it!!! also love throwing in 3 p in the pipe and just chilling for a hour smoking it

Methyldreams you should meet my mate who has a oxygas burner in his bedroom. he can make a crack pipe in no time out of a simple glass cylinder. He really has it down to a art form when it comes to making and cleaning pipes. .

Shit a 4 point IV hit that must rush you something Chronic. That's gotta keep you awake for a few days. I haven't IV'ed for almost 10 years seeing as i'm hopeless with needles and need a friend to shoot it for me. It's funny I remember what it's like to shoot it but I have no cravings to do it that way again as i'm now fully aware of the risks that come with using the needle and I find it guilt free smoking no matter how much more expensive it is.

I smoked just under 3 points off foil earlier tonight and I feel it was the perfect amount given my tolerance. Naturally I broke the 3 points into many pieces and smoked bit by bit over an hour or so. A big top of the morning to everyone on blue light. I know I said earlier in this thread I was going to stop but as luck would have I won another couple of hundred off a pokie machine so why not seeing as it is another 4 weeks till I go overseas for my short holiday
 
I think technique is paramount in smoking gear properly with a mad, tingly hit the result. You should be feeling an overwhelming buzz in your head pretty much as you blow out.

Snorting has legs and definately feels more physically charged.

Smoking it seems to give this cerebral high that leaves you flat out euphoric and almost zen.
 
Smoking it seems to give this cerebral high that leaves you flat out euphoric and almost zen.
I agree also smoking it makes it feel very clean and I don't get anywhere as near a bad comedown compared to years ago when I was using pills that were basically all powdered speed. I feel blissfull for 24 hours and I love the way meth makes you peak for the first 6 hours or so and then after that you feel content, like really content.

Of course they're are negative effects if you go over board. I find after you have the first sleep after using meth you are some what drained of energy and need to lie around a lot as you feel tired but food and drink taste's so good after a day or two after the buzz wear's off and it stops curbing your appetite. But yeah smoking meth is very addictive because how good it makes you feel
 
Methyldreams you should meet my mate who has a oxygas burner in his bedroom. he can make a crack pipe in no time out of a simple glass cylinder. He really has it down to a art form when it comes to making and cleaning pipes. .

Shit a 4 point IV hit that must rush you something Chronic. That's gotta keep you awake for a few days. I haven't IV'ed for almost 10 years seeing as i'm hopeless with needles and need a friend to shoot it for me. It's funny I remember what it's like to shoot it but I have no cravings to do it that way again as i'm now fully aware of the risks that come with using the needle and I find it guilt free smoking no matter how much more expensive it is.

I smoked just under 3 points off foil earlier tonight and I feel it was the perfect amount given my tolerance. Naturally I broke the 3 points into many pieces and smoked bit by bit over an hour or so. A big top of the morning to everyone on blue light. I know I said earlier in this thread I was going to stop but as luck would have I won another couple of hundred off a pokie machine so why not seeing as it is another 4 weeks till I go overseas for my short holiday

Yeh bro. I have only once taken 4 p at once that was 1.5g between 4 so a lil over the poor chick who done it nearly OD I was told i didn't know I was so off that I literally just started bouncing from person to person talking shit. 1 p hit normally gives me a taste in my throat .

I know half a dozen fellas like thaty with the customized blow torches, 1 mate has become so good at it he builds the cool lil glass decorations, when you never sleep its amazing how much useless stuff you can accomplish.

I had 4 hours sleep last nite, started this binge on wed w 2 p iv, thur, 2 p iv, fri 1p iv, sat thro to now iv had idk 3 0r 4 p mostly smoked..

I rekon we should start a competition who can blow the biggest clouds
 
Just a reminder the amounts are irrelevant as purity plays a major major part. There is a huge variance in purity of ice due to so many sources and batches.
 
First time experience

I tried some amazing quality imported meth back in the 90's. Clean, euphoric and happy. Back then we snorted it, as it was rare and smoking paraphernalia was unknown.

It was, initially, very similar to MDMA.

Back then I also read an article that was written by an American doctor or LEO who warned Australia about the ice storm that was going to hit Australia. The article was soon forgotten and 25 years later here we are.....if you believe the current press.

(The increased awareness now of ice will only entice more to try it)

Perhaps these days the meth was not of the purity of what I had originally tried, but I shall occasionally try it four or five times a year. I only snort it and make sure that I have some good quality sleeping pills to bring forth sleep when I need it.

I've seen a number of good friends partake of so much meth, that it's taken over their lifestyle. A couple have gone to rehab and have popped out successfully the other end.

I can not stress enough, the need to use meth sparingly.

Sparingly is fun, it's different and it's manageable (in my case). Too much and I don't sleep and basically I feel shit. We need sleep, we need REM.

But these days, the responsibilities of mortgage, family and work make sure that my rare occasional use remains just that................................rare and occasional.

Hi Everyone,

I'm quoting Bongo but I'm also just introducing myself cause I've just joined up :)

I've read the site many times but never made an account. Anyway, reading through this post and saw this line in bold... It's so true! I had never thought of this before, but the media is the reason I tried meth for the first time recently. I'm always reading stories about how people are doing anything to get this drug, it's getting control of the youth! You know what I thought? Wow. Must be some good shit 8o

So Yeh constantly reading these things on news dot com about the "ice epidemic", kept making me think about it and wonder. Wondering leads to curiosity and constant reminders on the media, and I finally just decided I'd find out for myself.

I imagined it would be very speedy, and was surprised. I tried it this weekend, on a bit of a whim really. I'd been saying to my husband that I wouldn't mind having a small try just a little "sip" Hehe. He'd tried it once previously, before we were together, just one session with a seasoned user, but he had not much effect from it at all. So anyway after a night out on Saturday we had someone over who gave me some of his.

I was terrified to try it, I thought the intense high was going to blow my head off when I inhaled, but I was surprised not to taste much and that it was actually very pleasant way to administer a drug. I vaporise my weed, so I'm fond of blowing big clouds
 
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Ohhhh nooo I posted a really long-ass post and when it posted only some showed up. Is there a word limit? Damn. Anyway, I can't retype it all now. Will retype it tomorrow night with all my questions. I have questions!
 
http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world...mic-state-fighters/ar-BBnpqJS?ocid=spartandhp

Captagon: Evidence Paris attackers used 'jihadist's drug' favoured by Islamic State fighters








Captagon was originally developed to treat hyperactivity and depression, but has become popular with violent extremists due to its ability to suppress fear and hunger.© Reuters/Nikolay Doychinov Captagon was originally developed to treat hyperactivity and depression, but has become popular with violent extremists due to its ability to suppress fear and hunger. Is it possible to slaughter dozens of innocent people without batting an eyelid, without feeling the slightest remorse?

Survivors of the Paris attacks have described some of the gunmen as "zombie-like", even serene, as they pulled their triggers and killed as many people as they could.

French media are reporting evidence that the attackers were high on a drug that is found almost exclusively in the Middle East, and increasingly used by Islamic State fighters.

It's been dubbed the "jihadist's drug" because of its ability to mask pain, fear and hunger, and keep fighters awake, calm and alert for long stretches.

Captagon — a synthetic amphetamine-based pill — is considered the drug of choice for Islamic State fighters in Syria, Iraq and, now it seems, Paris.

When French police raided a hotel room at Alfortville, south-east of Paris, last week they found a stash of syringes, needles and plastic tubing.

The Appart'City hotel at Alfortville is where the so-called eighth attacker Salah Abdeslam had allegedly rented two rooms for several days in the lead-up to the attacks.

Forensic tests have yet to confirm the nature of the chemicals found, and police have not ruled out the possibility they were explosive chemicals used to prepare suicide vests for the attacks.

But French media reports say there is increasing evidence the Paris attackers may have taken Captagon to prepare themselves in the hours before the November 13 attacks.

Several witnesses who survived the attacks have described the gunmen as being in a "zombie-like" state, as if stupefied by drugs.



Attack survivors described the gunmen as calm and serene as they shot dozens dead.© Reuters/Christian Hartmann Attack survivors described the gunmen as calm and serene as they shot dozens dead. "I saw a man shoot," one witness told French television station M6.

"I saw a man who was peaceful, composed, with a face that was almost serene, contemplative, advance towards the bar.

"He sprayed the terrace [with bullets] as anyone else would spray their lawn with a garden hose."

"They were like zombies," said another witness who'd watched several gunmen parked in a black VW Polo outside a restaurant, shortly before the killings began.

"It's as if they were drugged."

Captagon was originally produced in the West in the 1960s to treat conditions such as hyperactivity and depression. But it was later banned in most countries because of its addictive nature.


Now it is overwhelmingly found in the Middle East, particularly Syria, where its production and use has soared since the start of the country's civil war.

It contains the stimulant fenethylline, which is metabolised by the liver to produce amphetamine and theophylline, which travel through the bloodstream to the brain and act as a stimulant.

Drug experts, traders and local activists say Syrian production of Captagon accelerated in 2013, outpacing production in other countries in the region such as Lebanon, according to a report by the Reuters news agency.

Syrian government forces and rebel groups last year accused each other of using Captagon to endure protracted engagements without sleep, while clinicians said ordinary Syrians were also increasingly using the pills, which sell for between $5 and $20.

As well as helping combatants dig in for long stretches of fighting, reports of seizures and interviews with people connected to the trade suggest the production of Captagon also generates hundreds of millions of dollars in annual revenues in Syria, and potentially funds the purchase of weapons.

Khabib Ammar, a Damascus-based media activist, told the Reuters news agency last year that Syrian fighters involved with the drugs trade were buying weapons with the money they made.

Although Reuters could not verify whether Captagon profits were helping to fund either side of the conflict.

The UN Office of Drugs and Crime says consumption of Captagon is negligible outside the Middle East but a significant drug in the Arab Gulf. Syria has long been a key transit point.

"Trafficking of the amphetamine Captagon from Syria into Turkey may be increasing as indicated by a seizure of 4.2 million Captagon tablets in April 2013," the report said.

Lebanese authorities also report Syria's increasing role in the trade.

'We would beat them, and they wouldn't feel any pain'



Experts think Captagon use could explain why Islamic State fighters are so barbaric.© Reuters Experts think Captagon use could explain why Islamic State fighters are so barbaric. Colonel Ghassan Chamseddine, head of Lebanon's drug enforcement unit, told Reuters the pills are hidden in trucks passing from Syria to Lebanese ports where they are then shipped to the Gulf.

"It comes from Syria. Most of the Captagon production is there, according to our information," he said.

Official figures show Lebanon seized more than 12.3 million Captagon pills in 2013. Colonel Chamseddine said most of that came from a few large busts in the Bekaa Valley, which borders Syria.

One seizure of 5.3 million pills implicated a Syrian family that he said had been smuggling drugs for 10 years.

Syrian state media regularly mention Captagon pills as one of the items government forces seize alongside weapons when they capture rebel fighters or raid their bases.

A drug control officer in the central city of Homs told Reuters he had observed the effects of Captagon on protesters and fighters held for questioning.

"We would beat them, and they wouldn't feel the pain. Many of them would laugh while we were dealing them heavy blows," he said.

"We would leave the prisoners for about 48 hours without questioning them while the effects of Captagon wore off, and then interrogation would become easier."

Drug use could explain extreme barbarity of jihadists

Just last month a Saudi prince was arrested at Beirut's airport, bound for Saudi Arabia, accused of trying to smuggle two tonnes of Captagon pills on his private jet. It is alleged he was transporting the drug to sell to militant groups in Syria.

Islamic State fighters are not the only combatants known to use Captagon.

Seifeddine Rezgui, the Tunisian attacker who killed 38 people on a beach at Sousse in June 2015, was suspected of taking a Captagon pill before the shooting.

Israel's International Institute for Counter-Terrorism (IICT) says the use of Captagon, coupled with religious jihadist radicalism, could explain the extreme barbarity of IS operatives.

But Islamic State is not the only extreme Islamist group that uses Captagon.

The IICT claims Hezbollah, the Lebanon-based Shiite militia group, is also a major and growing manufacturer and supplier of the drug, with Iranian assistance and guidance, as a means to "finance the organisation's activities and amass a fortune".

"The Hezbollah leaders and operatives involved in the manufacture and distribution of Captagon have even absolved themselves of any moral, legal, or religious responsibility by claiming that such activity does not fall within the definition of drug trafficking and is legitimate marketing of medications," the IICT claimed in a report published last week.

"In this context, Sheikh Mohamad Yazbek, Hezbollah's spiritual leader in the Beka'a Valley region and a member of the group's Supreme Shura Council, published a fatwa allowing the production and sale of counterfeit Captagon tablets on condition that they not be used by members of the Shiite community.

"The first machines for producing Captagon were sent to Hezbollah operatives in Lebanon in 2006 at the end of the second Lebanon war by Iran's Revolutionary Guards.

"Since then, the phenomenon has spread, and Captagon production laboratories have been built in various villages in the Beka'a Valley, Beirut, and northern Lebanon."

The IICT report says sales of Captagon in the Middle East have continued to expand, as "Hezbollah has strengthened its cooperation with Syrian, Lebanese, Saudi and Palestinian drug dealers".
 
Everyone is different when is comes to smoking meth as people have different breathing ability. That's my take anyway, Ill tell you something interesting for the life of me if I smoke my meth out of the typical ice/crack pipe the ice doesn't affect me any where near enough as if I smoke it off Aluminium tin foil the way you chase the dragon with smack. I know it's a wasteful method compared to how efficient the crack pipe is but I've had nights where I've smoked a couple of points out of the pipe and it didn't kick in at all and I;ve fallen asleep a few hours after blowing out mouth fulls of smoke.

But on the flip side the very first time 15 years ago I tried meth I was overseas at some of my cousins friends place in Chicago usa and I smoked it out of a light bulb which was interesting considering I had no tolerance what so ever. I only had 3 puffs but was rushing all night.



If snorting hits you harder and has more legs 76dmw76 then use your meth that way, but if your cashed up maybe give smoking your meth off Aluminium foil a try and see if it hits you harder from that technique, All you do if get some foil and fold it in half, put some meth in the crease of where you folded it and light a lighter under the foil and breath the smoke in with a rolled up piece of laminated paper. Take away pizza or Chinese restaurant menu's usually work good for rolling up.

Maybe also if your feeling adventurous try smoking your meth out of a light bulb to see how it affects you

http://www.smokingmeth.net/How-to-smoke-meth-with-a-light-bulb-.aspx

Best of luck 76dmw76

Thank you for your reply....appreciate it....yeah I've come to the conclusion that this is definitely not a daily thing....I work in an engineering office for the oils and gas industry and while I have never hid the fact I love beans (norcos/hydrocodone) and having back surgery in college helps my open use....although ibuprofen would suffice I live a warm opiate blanket.....anyways the last 2 weeks I've tried figuring out how to use daily and remain productive....it's not happening....tolerance has literally sky rocketed from a gram every 4-5 days to a gram a day in a week.....by then of the days when I'm downing 2 handles (2mg xanax) and eating my one and only meal I realise I'm just maintaining a high that has diminished seemingly hourly.....this is a great drug and after years of great yay which has turn to shit I am happy I tried it....but you can definitely fall into a hole if you don't have life priorities in order.....first and foremost is my career and co workers are noticing....so this will be my last couple days (started buys a quarter oz at a time) because if I have I use it.....so 2 maybe 3 grams left to enjoy today and tomorrow hopefully get the house spotless dog bathed car washed and a laundry list of other things done....I'm a cleaner while high....it in some warped way makes my using justifiable......anyways I've learned a ton from this site about Tina and sincerely thank all you guys....well it's 5 am in Houston....muggy as fuck about 80F so I think I will go wash the car.....and you Aussie guys really would kill me if you knew what I pay for a gram or quarter oz.....and it's amazing.....I don't even know what a point is and no one here sells less than a g at a time
 
meth is a very dangerous drug depending on your genetic makeup ive seen people around me go either crazy or just chill n fall asleep when it wears off, the fact of the matter some people cant take it and i am one of them. I'm sorry im very new to this thread so any guidance would be muchly appreciated :D
 
Thank you.... wonder how many more the varies governments haves... guess the people in the right circles would also... I only say that with my thinking a chemist would want to share his master piece to the people who enjoy and appreciate it for what it is.
 
I had been sooo good! Didn't use meth for months(3 I think) stopped using heroin, stopped benzos. I was only taking LSD, MDMA, mush and DMT few times and it was doing me good but my friend popped in and I've had enough meth(too much) and now he's gone I'm stuck with the habit :-/ I'm only smoking it, only had one shot since he came but I need to cut him out because it wouldn't have happened had he not come over.

Any ideas on how to get someone to leave without causing drama?

EDIT: ergotfungalised people don't handle it well in a variety of situations. ..... I smoked DMT 2 days after coming down and I was being told just to kill everyone but I made myself come down before I did anything. I smoked Salvia after being up 3 days and was fine. Meth definitely changed a lot of subconscious shit :-/
 
I was only ever a weekend warrior on this shite. Couldn't imagine how people did it daily.

I got on opies for a couple of years, every now and then a night on ice but it would mess me up for a week

Since quitting opiates, I've become a daily user. Not really where I want to be.

I've iv'd before, I understand the feeling. Lately tho, only smoking gets me proper high and I've had 3 pt shots etc, iving does nothing. Weird, but a good thing.

Def need a break.

Shit
 
I have never shot meth, but surely you are missing your shots or getting bunk as fuck gear on the occasions you inject it if you think IV'ing does "nothing"?

The bioavailability of smoking and shooting are pretty damn close (iirc anyway), the only difference is that you can IV 3 points in an extremely short period of time, but it takes a good while to toke up 3 points of good quality gear without cooking/degrading it.

Best of luck getting off the shit mate. No addiction is positive but imo swapping opiates (especially if they aren't heroin, which I infer from the use of the term opiate instead of opioid) for meth is taking half a step backwards...
 
first post in over a year BOOM! ha was at a pub/lounge joint up here last night , few drinks with mates n mrs etc small night turned into big one , so around 11pm last night i copped what i thought was a .3 of old school run of the mill clean pseudo base wizza, i asked a guy iv done some favors for if he had any "pick me up", slipped me a coloured baggy, i couldnt really see it properly where i was but i trusted the bloke,

went into bathroom at the venue to do the deed so to say, thought "fuck it its just wipp ill be right with the .3 ", shld keep me cruisin for the night, minimal comedown etc , anyways , mulled up in the bag ( shuttup i had water n a freshy on me), had the shot , splashed my face with water, felt a cold as chill come over me, walked to the bar ordered a drink, then bang, biggest fucking headrush, had to sit down for 5 minutes to sort my breathing. i msgd old mate n we met outside , bikie fella. i asked what kind of speed that was, he said somethin along lines of "its the pure mate, the crystal every cunt loves" him and hes mate were laughin at how peaking i looked ( some cairns ice is flawless almost btw)

im still running around like a fuckin headless chook 10 hours later, even walked home from the hotel instead of taxi because i felt like a stroll, 6kms thru the fucking jungle in cairns ... fair mission , especially with all the shadow men i saw popping up in my peripheral.

thank baby jesus christ i have my benzo supply for the coming down of this pathetic substance later on today or tomorow. BUT im going to put this energy to some use and finish the work on my car this morning tho so atleast something good came out of it . haha. i rarely touch anything these days so it was abit of a treat for myself, tho looks like got more than i bargained for. tho im not really complainin...............yet . anyhoooooo enjoy your monday bluelighters!
 
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