Methamphetamine Discussion Thread 3.0

[slimvictor]

Yeah, for sure... It may not be previous drug use related... but it might be.. considering I used to get the same 'random freak out feeling' when I was on the drug years ago..

Sounds like a panic attack to me.
Maybe it is the same now as it was then because that is how you panic.

As someone who has studied yoga for 15+ years,
I cannot overstate the benefits of taking slow, deep breaths during such an attack!

 

[the_ketaman]

I had one of those freak outs last week. I smoked 3 points in 2 hours by accident and when I put the pipe down I instantly panicked because I was beaming and uncomfortably high. I tend to just smoke continuously in a compulsive way when I smoke & won't realize how messed up I am until I put the pipe down. Its not good and its one of the reasons I choose to IV most of the time.

I'll have between 50-150mg IV and that will have me as high as I want to be and I won't have to think of another one till at least 8 hours later. And the high is more satisfying, I am always wanting when smoking. I'm trying not to smoke at all from now on. Plus I end up sick every time I smoke but never from IV.

P.S Michael, do you smoke pot? My anxiety and panic attacks started with pot. I now know i must be super careful about using pot after method because if I over do it the reaction can be terrifying. I used to get them from pot alone. Now I try not to use meth without either Clonazepam(preferably) or Alprazolam, though a decent amount of Valium will suffice. I don't always use it either, it is sometimes just for peace of mind and having them there can stop a building attack because I might think of how I only get them once a month(my friend with epilepsy helps me a LOT, & coz Rivotril comes in bottles of 100 they are much better than any other benzo, plus they have muscle relaxing, anticonvulsant and obviously anxiolytic properties & not hypnotic I.e likely to make you black out and do the stupid things that pillheads constantly do. Xanax is hypnotic and gets ppl in trouble) and like to save them for emergencies, so yeah. I definitely understand its mind over matter, but there are times when the only solution is a benzo, opiate or Seroquel(I.e psych meds which do work but the n a different way)

 

[michael6120]

Thanks Slim & Ket. I think you've finally convinced me with the yogo. . my hero in life once spoke about previous substance addictions and yogo was the best thing he did that helped his body and mind. Ket, yes I do spoke pot, quit the class A stuff a couple years ago now. I've actually run out of green and going to wait a while before doing again.. we'll see if these panic attacks go away? we'll find out if the pot is related this way.. cheers

 

[the_ketaman]

Thanks Slim & Ket. I think you've finally convinced me with the yogo. . my hero in life once spoke about previous substance addictions and yogo was the best thing he did that helped his body and mind. Ket, yes I do spoke pot, quit the class A stuff a couple years ago now. I've actually run out of green and going to wait a while before doing again.. we'll see if these panic attacks go away? we'll find out if the pot is related this way.. cheers

I think stopping pot for awhile could possibly help a lot.
Also I'm not sure if you take benzos or GHB but they can make you believe that they're helping you and are a godsend which they definitely can be but they create something called rebound anxiety, and basically its when you use benzos or G for too long and when you stop your anxiety is actually twice as bad as it was before you started the benzo, so often people take more and it becomes a vicious cycle and at times its unavoidable but it happens.

 

[michael6120]

nah I dont take anything except for pot. even quit smoking!... I have another little phobia to anything in pill form... years and years ago I had a 6 pack and got a headach.. mum didnt think (neither did I) and gave me a couple sudafeds! haha.. I literally thought I was going to die.. I couldnt move my body and had no control and passed out... scared the heck out of me... so ive always been too scared to even swallow a headach tablet ever since lol

 

[JustCantStop13]

Please help...newb with IV'ing methamphetamine (less than 12 months) very SCARED

Hello, I'm freaking out due to no knowledge on what I'm about to ask.
I had about 10 lines left of ice in the barrel after my arm stuffed up. Stupid me turns my wrist upside down and tried in one of the tiny veins there. Now I've got a nasty lump and big bruise travelling up my palms and towards my inner arm. I'm scared because most of my drug use history was smoked not IV (didn't want to do IV years ago because of the irrational way I deal with things like this. Panic first, ask a more informed person later). All sorts of craps going through my mind like blood clots, losing my hand...argh... Please can anyone help.

I have a picture...but...it's not worth it while I'm using an iPad. Don't want to add it to any social picture platform. I'll email it if you want to see to advise better...

 

[mictea]

well.....your wrist is just about the worst place you could inject something, you know that now. There is veins there but also intersetions you do NOT wanna cross. sounds like a miss,,,rub it. many things can happen depending on the PH of your stuff, caustic is bad and some add vinegar (1-2 drops) to lower the PH from things like EPH. keep an eye on it and apply heat, if its a clot the heat can help....no ice till later. if your bump gets worse in a day or two and its sore and red, hit up the ER before an infection get bad....the wrist is no good for an infection bro, they would have to cut your wrist to drain the infection

 

[slimvictor]

Hello, I'm freaking out due to no knowledge on what I'm about to ask.
I had about 10 lines left of ice in the barrel after my arm stuffed up. Stupid me turns my wrist upside down and tried in one of the tiny veins there. Now I've got a nasty lump and big bruise travelling up my palms and towards my inner arm. I'm scared because most of my drug use history was smoked not IV (didn't want to do IV years ago because of the irrational way I deal with things like this. Panic first, ask a more informed person later). All sorts of craps going through my mind like blood clots, losing my hand...argh... Please can anyone help.

I have a picture...but...it's not worth it while I'm using an iPad. Don't want to add it to any social picture platform. I'll email it if you want to see to advise better...

Nobody here can help you if you really are in a dangerous situation, and without a lot more information, we can't tell how dangerous it is.
I suggest you go to the doctor, if at all possible.

 

[the_ketaman]

MY binge ends TONIGHT!!!! Unbelievably I smoked 4 points myself in about an hour and IV'ing about 2 n a bit points and it just made me feel like I could function again instead of feeling like I was falling asleep(I was ndding pretty much beforehand, maybe that's what meth WD's feel like?) Then smoked the rest and was mildly high. Then a bit later n got 2.5 points and IV'd a pont and shared a point with my mate and smoked the rest and it was so ahard to just get high. I never realized how full on meth tolerance can get. I understand opiate tolerance very well but ive never needed more than 50-100mg to rush my face off. I had a 2 point shot at one point and barely rushed at all! This says to me its time for a decent break.

I managed to get some Diazepam off the doctor this morning(Roche 5mg yay!) and had a few 2mg Rivotril(Clonazepam, a lot of people don't seem to know what it is) left but I just had the last one so its valium from now on and im not touching the valium without grapefruit juice because the potentiation does work for me and my benzo tolerance is high enough that id go through them so fast and I don't even take them daily. Only for extreme, very intense situations. That and meth comedowns or if I get a bit physically and/or mentally uncomfortable After a shot of meth or when the rush wears off the difference in the high I get hanges very quickly, when im rushing im completely carefree, I don't notice how hard my body is working, im just distracted but once that rush wears off the ability to have a panic attack comes instantly. And while ive been doing really well at controlling my meth related anxiety(at one point I had to quit meth because I had a panic attack every time I had a shot buut now I just make sure im not alone, that I have benzos and that I eat, sleep and take vitamins.

I know I am going to get flamed big time for this but I just had half of a 25mcg fentanyl patch IV, I did test them beforehand and I do have a fair opiate tolerance. So I know how much I needed and mixed it up then split into suringes instead of cutting them and mixing separately. That's incredibly dangerous as people still don't realise that the fent isn't distributed evenly on the patch, but im fucked! in a great way lol but its already wearing off. I was absolutely hammered there for a few mintes, nodding hard but im starting to feel high as hell but no nods, though that ould be related to the meth.

Anyway my kidneys are actually hurting quite a bit so ima drink a ton of water and eat!

 

[floatingaround]

Used .5 point IV last night for the first time in 18 months and it wasn't overly great.. I felt the rush and initial effect for maybe an hour and then I got pretty scat and uncomfortable quick after that. Really really regretted dosing it, and I'm still not completely at baseline after 24 hours. Reminded me of why I don't use meth, and maybe the stuff I had had a nasty cut in it but definatly not worth the time and hassle in getting it and then riding it out for a day.

I'm keen for some weed, a good feed and a big sleep tonight!

 

[floatingaround]

Just got a hold of dirty shit PGR hydro. After smoking a few it's brought the meth effect back if anything, although hopefully it settles out and becomes more relaxing in time.

I can only assume this stuff was cut with something nasty as I don't believe I would have settled for that effect in the past. If you were to pick out your 'worst meth experience' that's mine. I've never been a heavy everyday user, and have always struggled to understand how people can live like that.

 

[SexyTweakerBitch]

Hey=-) I'm a hardcore tweaker and have been blazin shardz since I was 18 and now I'm almost 25. I love it and really don't want to quit anytime soon cuz its so fuckin fun and it makes me feel amazing. I still get a good rush and high even though my tolerance is hella high but probably cuz my bf always has lots of bomb shit and I basically get to blaze fat bowls for free anytime I want. I eat everyday like a normal person and I sleep almost every night. I'm not ugly and gross either like the typical meth head stereotype lol I'm not trying to sound conceided but I think lm def above average in the looks department. I can easily hide my addiction from anybody pretty much. I hate how meth users get the worst reputation and how society judges all of them as dirty ugly losers who steal and do crazy stupid shit because that's so not true. Yeah there are lots that fit that description but there are also people like me who smoke shit everyday and take good care of themselves and function like normal people. None of the tweakers I associate with neglect their hygiene or look anything like the "faces of meth" monstrosities lol.

 

[SKR]

Lol love the handle, you'll make friends in no time!

Yeah i have to agree, i used for over a decade and apart from looking a lil scattered after being awake for days on end I always managed to keep up appearances and function highly - pun intended. Much of that comes from our education level and our upbringing and circumstances. However, the game will catch up to you and eveyone else for that matter, it always does in some way. For me as a former dealer it was the dangerous situations that occupation can and does attract...if you have things or people you care about, in my case my wife, then that is a weakness that can and will be exploited. I cared more about my wife than my money so in the end the choice was simple.

For you STB it may be your child and something may happen that will bring that situation into focus and you may have to make a change. Only you can decide what is best for you and your family. It's always best to make a choice rather than being forced to choose due to an external influence.

Have fun as you sound like you are and i wish you all the best. Enjoy!

 

[AE.]

Hey=-) I'm a hardcore tweaker and have been blazin shardz since I was 18 and now I'm almost 25. I love it and really don't want to quit anytime soon cuz its so fuckin fun and it makes me feel amazing. I still get a good rush and high even though my tolerance is hella high but probably cuz my bf always has lots of bomb shit and I basically get to blaze fat bowls for free anytime I want. I eat everyday like a normal person and I sleep almost every night. I'm not ugly and gross either like the typical meth head stereotype lol I'm not trying to sound conceided but I think lm def above average in the looks department. I can easily hide my addiction from anybody pretty much. I hate how meth users get the worst reputation and how society judges all of them as dirty ugly losers who steal and do crazy stupid shit because that's so not true. Yeah there are lots that fit that description but there are also people like me who smoke shit everyday and take good care of themselves and function like normal people. None of the tweakers I associate with neglect their hygiene or look anything like the "faces of meth" monstrosities lol.

I can relate, sure it may feel like you have mastered the art of smoking meth, just be mindful of your mental health though. How you think you appear is normal, can be totally different to someone who is sober, or straight as a nail.

We come to a point in our use where we have self belief that what we are doing is perfectly fine, which in reality its the total opposite.
The key is moderation. My experiences have taught me, more is not always good, if you abuse your gift of smoking and hiding it,
mark my words it will come back to bite u back in the ass, and haunt you. Other than that enjoy, and let this supreme substance do what he has to do, do not be one of the bad statistics in the media.

 

[poledriver]

Perth police nab 21kg of meth in raid

Stopping two drivers who appeared to be doing a drug deal in Perth's northern suburbs has led police to about $21 million worth of methamphetamine.

After searching the vehicles and seizing 11 kilograms of meth along with almost $100,000 in cash, police moved onto a Karrinyup property and found a further 10kg of the drug.

Five people from Perth, NSW and Queensland have been charged over the haul, which is the biggest meth seizure in WA this year.


Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...up-big-meth-haul-in-perth#eU4AGVHpurlEllwb.99

Orange meth?

 

[AE.]

^ Wow, no wonder the epidemic over there is booming by the day.

I was over there last year, and lets just say it was clear why my co workers were just on the ball 24/7. It really is bad over there, and to make it worst i was finding it difficult to relate to them, i found them to be a strange breed. I guess it figures.

 

[spacejunk]

That orange shit looks like really impure DPT.
i wonded how much of that shit will make it back to the streets...?*



*Pure speculation of course; WA Police arent corrupt, haw haw haw.

 

[the_ketaman]

Just got a hold of dirty shit PGR hydro. After smoking a few it's brought the meth effect back if anything, although hopefully it settles out and becomes more relaxing in time.

I can only assume this stuff was cut with something nasty as I don't believe I would have settled for that effect in the past. If you were to pick out your 'worst meth experience' that's mine. I've never been a heavy everyday user, and have always struggled to understand how people can live like that.

The effect changes a bit once you start using to maintain rather than staying up a few nights here and there. I've been a binger and daily user and the key to functional daily use is food, sleep, vitamins and benzos!

I also was never able to understand it until I was going through it. I also thought meth WD was a bunch of bull but after stopping about a week ago I've gone through significant WD's that seem very much physical also. I have a 9 hour class about to start and have had to smoke over a point to even be able to turn up :-( and that's my first bit in however long it has been and tolerance is still pretty significant.

 

[psytaco]

Has anyone had much luck when it comes to drug counselling for meth?

I went to my psychologist today and she said that due to my weekend binges on ice and daily use of codeine it is going to be really difficult to treat my anxiety, depression and insomnia. I have given turning point a call and have been will be giving North Western Alcohol and Drugs a call tomorrow.

I'm at a bit of a turning point here as I have been using a half g of ice each weekend for about a month. Before that it was a bit more sporadic. Apart from the pleasure from smoking it, I don't get much benefit from it. In fact, it certainly isnt worth the obsessive compulsive carpet surfing, depression, anxiety, insomnia and mild psychotic symptoms after either. Plus I am spending more than I would pay to rent a one bedroom apartment in Melbourne per week.

Further to this, my girlfriend and I broke up. Much of this was due to my drug use. That said, I had been thinking of ending the relationship for a while but it is a wake up call. I am concerned that if my use increases that I may lose my job (not close to that yet) and/or end up in a psych ward for meth psychosis.

I would like to be focusing on other things in my life rather than just working and then using drugs on the weekend and feeling tired and depressed all week. It is getting old.

 

[realtalkloc]

You have to stop the weekend binges so that the doctors can treat your depression and anxiety without anything interfering, otherwise you will never get better, your psychologist is right. Fuck meth, your health and happiness is more important, so why delay the process of getting better?