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Methamphetamine Discussion Thread 3.0

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Its part anticipation and part of the physiological effects of the drug but I often need to poop right after a shot but because I'm on methadone its not as bad.

Ive really come to understand my relationship with meth & anxiety. I've been using a bit of clonazepam lately and and I've noticed if I have a smaller dose(2mg) of clonazepam before the shot I have a beautiful and completely nausea free rush(I almost always spew from a shot due to the butterflies/anxiety in my belly and the rush)

Now though, meth is affecting me how it did in the beginning before the anxiety affected me more than the meth. I've had the rushes people speak of, the plateau isn't so jittery because my head isn't waiting for something to go wrong and I die. I can just enjoy. Even smoke pot! Which is usually a big no-no!

I don't have consistent access to strong enough benzos to keep this up but I'm not touching meth without benzos anymore. I've been through the whole codependency thing so I know the risks. But I can enjoy it properly now.

Before I run out of benzos I'm going to do a 0.2g blast(something my anxiety prevented me from doing) and stop for bit. Even for me I've been hitting it hard!

Time for some cones of primo bud and off to see my partner and give him one of my trademark meth bonks lol love what I'm capable of doing to that man in the bedroom lol
 
I haven't done Crystal since the end of 2012 and I'm still messed up in the head. I still question of what I experienced was real? It rattles me up to the bones. I'm new here.
 
I have used off and on mostly on since I was 14 and I am now 29. I know what you mean Deep Wonder. The thing I question the most is what kind of person hands a little girl a foil with meth on it takes the time to teach said girl proper technique and then teaches them how to "cook" all before they turn 15? That keeps me up at night more than a good bump most nights.
 
Well I hope my old dealer from two years ago is still there hanging around the same place. I started out buying it from addicted tuk-tuk driving 19 year old kids but later I found a really professional dealer. They guy always got me premium stuff. He was some kind of gangster. The only Khmer I've ever seen that wore close toed leather shoes. God, I hope he's still back there. Otherwise, I'm gonna have to take my time feeling out a tuk-tuk driver.
 
ohgee said:
I have used off and on mostly on since I was 14 and I am now 29. I know what you mean Deep Wonder. The thing I question the most is what kind of person hands a little girl a foil with meth on it takes the time to teach said girl proper technique and then teaches them how to "cook" all before they turn 15? That keeps me up at night more than a good bump most nights.
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:-( I can understand why that would...
 
meth is nothing broth. you can sleep on meth. breathing is impaired and is one of the hellish symptoms of downing from it
but its just a matter of reality really. its also not a good idea to smoke weed while u got no sleep, better to ride the high off.
while I'm on meth i usually have a grip on my phone so i can fiddle on something while waiting for the time. keep yourself busy.
i can stay sober anyhow so why do you need it if you can avoid it? just be occasional.
 
jimcedriclacs said:
hey is this in thailand dd u manage to get ice or just yaba
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Both ice and yabba I personally used to smoke. Fuck on a Friday after work we used to mix the two for an amazing session.

Honestly although yabba is also Meth it gives a surprisingly different euphoria.

Also this is Cambodia we where refering to, although same goes in Thailand .... It's just riskier in Thailand ... Those police are out for blood.
 
8ft-Sativa said:
Yawn ... Know one likes an internet know it all.
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Stuff off, this is supposed to be an HR forum , truth is more important than your fragile ego. You are not the final authority on the drug situation there and neither am I for that matter but I'm actually providing honest HR information as opposed to your anecdotal generalisations which could be harmful if someone goes there with a false sense of confidence about the quality of drugs there. .

I've been going to Cambodia since 2004 when shit was still real and before smug bogans rolled up and ruined the scene.
 
dudes, saw an aljazeera joint on youtube about hte "ice epidemic", and the comments seemed to reaffirm the people on there saying that is is socially acceptable, "in", not seen as dirty/ghetto/dangerous/hard drugs by young people right now?
your take plz?
 
def not the case in my circles. friends who spend way more on other drugs a week but don't do meth, than what i spend on meth still hate that i do meth. to them it's some how worse and more dangerous which i think is silly but they don't realise that. they feel i am ruining my life etc even though i always stay composed while they go completely mental trying to take on a big group of people in a fight and shit. the only reason my doc is meth is i enjoy the ritual of smoking. if more drugs could be smoked as nicely i'd do them more too.
 
Love heart pipe lol
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^^LOL What happened there

Ive had about 5 0.2g plus sessions through this pipe I have atm and thanks to magic erasers the thing still looks brand new. Also the purity of the stuff has been quite good but I think today that changed.

I had 5mg Xanax this morning with my 80mg daily dose of methadone. Then on my way home I got a point which I IV'd(something I haven't done in a few weeks, ive been making good use of my pipe) and yeah it was ok but ended up getting another 0.05g off him which I IV'd as well. I don't think ill be using any ice for awhile IV or smoked. I was getting fat crystals weighing 2-3 points each a few weeks ago and those crystals were broken off bigger ones(I dont buy big amounts of meth) & that stuff was great, I managed to stay off the needle for quite awhile but today I knew id have a little bit of a tolerance so IV was my only option.

Now finishing the last of my bottle of Bailey's(my fav alcohol, I don't like most alcohol) Eyeing off the last few xannies left and the minus 5 cones in the bowl. After I cruise BL for a bit ill be going for the chillout.

Thank god for benzos at times like this!!!
 
Been clean for over half a year, only to relapse back hard recently. Bought nearly a gram and just kept shooting -- a mostly new experience for me.

Jesus Christ, that rush. I mean just Jesus Christ. Fuckin' wow.
 
Hecticus said:
Pro.
Hope you keep out of trouble this time ketaman, benzo's+ meth can lead to The worst decision making ever.
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So true. The thought processes can be very poor. Throw in heavy benzo + opiate use and alcohol sometimes and it's a worrying mix :( .

Hope you can give up either the benzos or opiates ketaman. I'm not being judgmental I just don't want to hear that you OD'd. Just don't forget that most people who OD thought they knew what they were doing and had lots of experience mixing drugs.

Sounds like you've cut back on your meth use which is really good :)
 
I am looking for stories of balanced meth use.

I recently got the chance to try meth for the first time, and to my great surprise, I enjoyed it. A lot.
I had never liked stimulants before, and had also fallen for the anti-meth bias that says that the drug hurts people, only...
When I found it was like LSD without the hallucinations, with everyone laughing, incredible emotional openness, euphoria... I changed my mind quickly.

So, I am wondering if it is possible to use it in a balanced way. I aim to use it once a week, and my friend, who provided it to me, refuses to sell me any and will only let me smoke some once a week.

My friend has been addicted to meth for 20 years, he says, but doesn't binge and always sleeps at night and so shows no (visible) negative effects. He has not missed work in that time (but is always high at work, I guess).

Are there other people who have managed to maintain a good, long-term balance with meth? I have heard lots of horror stories, and I am interested in knowing if there are more people like my friend, or even better, like what I am imagining for myself - occasional use without serious addiction.
 
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I've never met someone who used meth frequently and wasn't messed up by some way in the end. Even a friend who (as far as I know - you know who you are, so if you read this chime in man) maintained a functional habit like you described for a decade, give or take, eventually got sucked into the meth machine. That's the problem with drug addiction, it's a lifelong process, so someone can be held up as an example of functional addiction/casual use, or an example of a certain particular method of recovery, only to fall into addiction/back into addiction years or decades later. You don't know for sure until the person has lived out their entire life.

Back to meth specifically, there's also the long term side effects (it's not as bad as coke, but it still puts a lot of strain on your cardiovascular system, leaving you much more vulnerable to heart attack/stroke as you age, and it's neurotoxic and just generally bad for your mental health), and the whole scene around the drug is extremely fucked up.

I personally never developed a full blown addiction to meth because I started getting severe anxiety from it once I started binging and using regularly (I generally have to be drunk or on juice to smoke meth now, preferably with benzos in the mix, which of course is a dangerous mashup - but I've only done it twice in the last 2 years, thank God), but I definitely started heading in that direction. It's incredibly easy to go from "I'll just smoke once or twice a month to party," to every weekend, to all weekend, to "I could use a pick me up" on Monday morning because you barely slept since Friday, and then it's just a quick slide down a steep slope from there, and I've seen to many friends go down that slope to recommend the drug in good conscience.

You're right the first few times are amazing, there's an almost MDMA feel to it, very talkative, open, friendly, kinda of relaxed but energetic. That's what sucks you in. But as you use it more and more it starts depleting the serotonin receptors and turns to a more purely dopamine high, which is where you start getting tweaky and selfish and fiendish, the high becomes more about the physical pleasure and the somewhat manic ego boost. A kind of weaker version of the "losing the magic" that happens to MDMA users who take the drug too frequently. And in my experience, even extensive breaks don't bring back that serotonergic feel, just lower your tolerance so you get hit harder with the manic, fiendish side of the high.
 
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