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Methamphetamine (appx .125 g) - First Time - Trip to the Hospital

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A friend i havent seen in awhile comes over. Says he has something new he wants me to try. He wouldn't tell me what it was . . . I trusted him. He pulls out an "Oil Pipe" loads up and shows me how it's done. I catch on quickly. He had like half a Gram, we shared it but I took deeper, hits than he did.

We loaded the pipe about three or four times over half an hour. After about 20-minuits I start to feel euphoric and very intimate with him . . . like we're one. We tell each-other really interesting personal stories, I start to feel warm & fuzzy . . . tell him sex would be fun but I didn't wanna get dirty and he had to go . . . some other time.

He asked if I feel high. I say, "a little," it's good. He loads up the last pipeful. I'm sweating profusely. Shortly thereafter, he leave. Then I had one of the biggest heart palipitations I've ever had. Had a similar one after eating Amanita Muscaria mushrooms and called Poison Control, who told me not to worry. So when I had the huge palipitations, or flutters I didn't worry too much.

My chest started to hurt. I should add: before he came over, I drank two bottles of summer wine. I stayed up all night kinda worrying if I had a heart attack. I musta read everything there is on the internet about METH. Says it's NOT good to mix with alcohol. Says many ppl die of heart problems. , , ,

(The friend called me at 7am to see how I was doin' and I told him I was worried/anxious . . . he apologized, said he didn't know I have a bad heart.)

At 10am I had to be downtown for a business meeting. After that I went to a friend's house to take her shopping 4 groceries. She starts bitching and ragging on me for not calling her first . . . I did call her last night (but she was kinda dazed) and said I'd be over after the meeting. Her bitchyness and lack of sympathy made my anxiety worse . . . I split 4 home.

At home she calls me in tears about the way I treated her . . . this makes me feel even more anxious. She called me like six times to rag on me.

I read more & more about Meth deaths on the internet and was, by now really worried. Two weeks prior I gave up Coke 'cause it was giving my heart trouble. Figured I'd drive a coupla blocks down to the hospital. (2pm)

Since I claimed I was having a heart attack, they saw me almost immediately. My blood pressure was 139/90, pulse 101 & EKG was okay . . . they told me to wait in the lobby for the doctor to talk with me. After about an hour, I felt more calm and told the nurse I was feeling better and left. Went over to a friend's house to pick up some Valium to relieve my anxiety. (It's the anxiety that caused my chest pains.)

As I type, I haven't eaten very much or slept in more than 36 hours . . . don't really feel like sleeping.

Tomorrow will be a better day! I don't regret the experience . . . now I can warn kids NOT to do METH!

Ppl die from a vast range of doses. WARNING! Most die from injecting it . . . most have been chronic users.

When I get the hospital bill, I'll update this, lol! :)

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I like your last sentence. I have good insurance and in January I punched a mirror.

Hardly any damage, but my hand wouldn't stop bleeding from a slice (wasn't a cut). Wasn't THAT big of a deal but the total bill was $9xx.xx, I had to pay $5xx.xx :(
 
On second thought, it was the massive heart flutter that caused the chest pain. Heart attacks are fatal if, after the flutter, Ur heart doesn't reset properly and U pass out . . . then U have only a few minutes to revive with a defibulator.

I kinda wasted my time/money going into the hospital. After I took one Valium I felt better. It was all the anxiety that increased/prolonged the chest pain . . . I'm still recovering.

Prior to this I was doin' lotsa coke. I could tell it was causing physical problems for me so I quit doing coke two weeks prior to this . . . I didn't need the Meth . . . Meth is worse than coke. It might have been better if I didn't smoke as much . . . I did lose about three pounds but I'm still feelin' shitty and weak. Especially in my heart. . . . wonder if I did any damage?

They say, Meth enlarges Ur heart, which is NOT good.
 
Huh?

Wait, how can methamphetamine enlarge your heart? Where did you read this? I'm not entirely convinced this is accurate in anyway.

If you have a bad heart, obviously avoid any type of stimulant. They all put strain on your body that isn't needed as well as cause the heart to beat very quickly.

Now, to proceed further, .125mg of methamphetamine isn't really that much. Methamphetamine is notoriously difficult to overdose on (much more so than cocaine) and unless one has prior conditions, then you just need to remember not to panic.

I'll also add that cocaine is much more harmful to the heart than methamphetamine is. Cocaine's anesthetic affects are far more cardio-toxic than the extra amount of noradrenaline released from methamphetamine.

Not saying that this story wasn't informative, it surely was, but I figure I would add some facts to the anecodotal account. Sorry you didn't enjoy your experience!
 
3DayRun said:
Huh?

Wait, how can methamphetamine enlarge your heart? Where did you read this? I'm not entirely convinced this is accurate in anyway.
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an enlarged heart can be caused by chronic high blood pressure.
methamphetamine causes high blood pressure.
ergo, chronic methamphetamine use can cause an enlarged heart.
 
Huh? How's the methamphetamine causing this heart to enlarge?

The methamphetamine is not causing the heart to suddenly start growing.

Now, saying methamphetamine use can be linked to an enlarged heart is a bit more accurate. It's just misleading saying that it is the root cause.
 
Methamphetamine is a cruel master. In order to like it or become addicted to it, it doesn't hurt to be a masochist.
 
All I can say, almost 72-hours later is that I feel like this has caused serious damage to my body . . . I hope & pray I get over it. No more XTC, Meth or Coke 4 me!
 
Speed made my feet and ankles balloon, and the nurse said it was because my heart wasnt happy about the speed.
 
Street meth is quite a toxic drug, and is made more damaging by smoking, snorting or shooting it instead of oral administration, which is the safest route for most drugs. That euphoric rush is just what's happening on the surface--physiologically, your blood pressure is increasing, pulse is speeding, brain is releasing superhuman amounts of dopamine and other neurotransmitters, body temp is rising, and many other things are going on with various organs as your metabolism speeds up drastically. Not only is meth hard on the heart, it's taxing for the kidneys, liver, and other organs of elimination, not to mention its neurotoxicity.

Coke may or may not be worse for the cardiovascular system, but meth is the strongest of ALL stimulants, that includes methylphenidate, amphetamine, propylhexedrine, ephedrine, cocaine, caffeine, nicotine, IT-290, and all others. I fail to see why first-time stimulant users go directly for meth, which is just as senseless as first time opiate users doing heroin.

I'm glad to hear you're okay and hope you'll tell others about your experience. Sometimes a person doesn't even know they have a heart condition until they try a stimulant and stroke out or have a heart attack, so there's always a risk with stimulants and the unknown.
 
3DayRun said:
Huh?

Wait, how can methamphetamine enlarge your heart? Where did you read this? I'm not entirely convinced this is accurate in anyway.

If you have a bad heart, obviously avoid any type of stimulant. They all put strain on your body that isn't needed as well as cause the heart to beat very quickly.

Now, to proceed further, .125mg of methamphetamine isn't really that much. Methamphetamine is notoriously difficult to overdose on (much more so than cocaine) and unless one has prior conditions, then you just need to remember not to panic.

I'll also add that cocaine is much more harmful to the heart than methamphetamine is. Cocaine's anesthetic affects are far more cardio-toxic than the extra amount of noradrenaline released from methamphetamine.

Not saying that this story wasn't informative, it surely was, but I figure I would add some facts to the anecodotal account. Sorry you didn't enjoy your experience!
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Agreed...

I highly doubt it was the methamphetamine that caused your heart palpitations. Also, I'm a bit confused about your dosage-- if he had a half gram and you took deeper hits, wouldn't it be more like .25?

However, even .25 I don't think would cause such severe heart problems as you're describing. Most likely it increased your heart rate and you began to panic, causing it to escalate (and staying up all night, not eating or drinking anything, and researching heart attack online does not help!)

Had you gone to the hospital sooner, I don't know what your heart rate would be-- but I can say that a pulse of 100 is not that high or something to be extremely worried about. I've had up to 200 pulse from meth, and a 100 pulse without meth quite often due to dehydration.

Not trying to "one up you" just stating the facts, and as so I wouldn't worry about this having a long term effect on your body as you've stated you fear.

Next time, don't trust anyone enough to just ingest a substance, eh? ;)
 
Lady Codone said:
Coke may or may not be worse for the cardiovascular system, but meth is the strongest of ALL stimulants, that includes methylphenidate, amphetamine, propylhexedrine, ephedrine, cocaine, caffeine, nicotine, IT-290, and all others. I fail to see why first-time stimulant users go directly for meth, which is just as senseless as first time opiate users doing heroin.
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Meth isn't remotely the strongest stimulant. Neither the most potent nor most euphoric.

Dozens of cocaine analogues are more potent, and even many phenethylamine derivatives are more potent.

fencamfamine, phenmetrazine are both considered more euphoric.

Of commonly available stimulants though? That seems to be a fair statement. But all stimulants? Not even close.
 
Good post thanks for sharing.

Obviously anxiety can alter your perception of how things are going. I know at times being on certain things it felt like my heart was pounding out my chest, but I'm sure it was just my altered perception.

Also stimulants, when you get nervous are hard to shake off. You get more and more nervous cause your brain and body are going 100 mph.

First off meth and coke are bad mkay. But yeah having downers makes life a little easier. Just knowing you have em helps you feel better while you do things. Just a thought.
 
I had similar experience after FAR too much coke and ecstasy one night, was convinced something was seriously wrong for quite a while because of the very scary heart feelings. Ended up calling an ambulance and they checked me over, pulse was only 120 and everything was fine. They told me that a healthy young man like me would need to hit 200 before there would be any danger.

Sounds like the meth caused a sudden increase in heartrate that because it was so unfamiliar to you sparked off a major anxiety/panic attack. I've had a few drug related ones in my time and I know how real the danger can feel, its horrible.
 
I feel normal now. MrsMia is right . . . I estimated the amount I used and he had. I asked how many dolllars worth we smoked. He said $xx (not sure if I should mention price here). So I think (maybe) it was less than .5g. I don't know what a g sells for where I live.

I also think I'll still use xtc and I really cut down on number of cigs/day (now only three/four) and hope to quit smoking on vacation soon.

And, yes, heartrate of 100 is the high-limit of normal but I used to be 60 when I exercised and waaaay lower BP.

No doubt the meth caused the heart flutter. It happened before when I ate amanita muscaria . . . after that, I called Poison Control (a wonderful, local 24/hr service) and they told me not to worry about it.

Still no hospital bill. . . I left before consulting with a doctor so I saved some $$$ but that nurse implied that I wouldn't be charged for anything . . . I'll see.
 
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