^^ Lol, yeah most of the info is online but with meth there are a few specific reasons why "those weird tweaker posts" are so common. I will clarify after I have responded to the OP:
By the way, the OP's question is an example of point 1 below: Yes, information on meth related anxiety is available online, no doubt, but perhaps not the very specific information related to anxiety from different ROA's. This sounds pretty specific to me, which is usually the problem with meth related questions.
Now I am almost certain (but i may be wrong) that there is no standard info on this likely because the ROA should not be able to effect the level of anxiety directly (as an example, i may be wrong!) assuming the same dosage is used for all ROA, meaning equal effect on the body taking into account bio availability etc. (yes there may be some other considerations...)
Now this may seem like an odd question to some, assuming I am correct and that ROA cant directly effect this, but i can confirm that these kind of odd logic raping mysteries that defy all reason, happen all the time, consistently. I have pages of it to bless you all with one day soon...
But to feedback on the OP's question. My experience with meth initially was that it was amazing in the fact it had no anxiety, just godlike confidence and perfection. Now this was since i was being an idiot and taking shitty street coke sized hero doses.
I have now confirmed that there is anxiety at lower doses, especially noted when ending a binge, sleeping, and dosing that next day, with your tolerance so high, its almost impossible to get beyond a frustrating anxious state cursing your eyes in the mirror because they wont dilate and announce that your now high and all is well.
This may not be the case but looking at the OP's ROA's that dont cause issues, it might be that with those ROA's, your are getting more high then with the other ones, skipping the anxiety phase, either via BA or differing doses.
I can confirm one of my meth oddities is that oral dosing always performed far far better then nasal, far more then the figures indicate, consistently, even though im eventually swallowing the snorted leftovers anyways, yum. Doesnt make sense, but I can say that nasally, i always need to have a few lines to dose enough to get beyond the anxiety level dose.
Now with the OP answered, lets explain the need for those seemingly pointless/awesome meth posts with "odd/genius" questions and some sensitivity training for them tweaker post haters. Not hijacking this thread, feel free to ignore or delete the below if you hate puppies.
The 3 main reasons for weird meth posts.
1. Your (tweaker) question is far more complicated and specific then those considered for compiling the usual info available to the masses meaning the available data online just wont be good enough to provide an answer with the correct level of detail. This is obviously not acceptable and therefore the specific answer must be requested from others as many times as possible.
Non meth users, sensitivity advice: Its usually a real question, with a genuine desire to have answered, or the frustration will not cease. Its not a bored tweaker joke or similar type post, as it may seem.
Take a moment to respond, even if its to point out the logical impossibility of the issue with adequate explanation. Meth always appreciates logic, even against the OP, it will always help in some way. Or simply express your sympathy at the struggles we must endure.
No answer is simply torture, dont allow this cruelty to take place. Dont laugh or mock either, tweakers cry when posts are ignored or scorned.
2. Your query is unique and represents some groundbreaking new idea or concept on the topic (or any topic) and you wish to inform others about it in return for future fame and glory, but you make sure to cleverly disguise it as a legit question so as to conform to the "rules", appear humble and thus awesome, and not make everybody else feel dumb for not realizing it first.
Non meth users, sensitivity advice: Accept the knowledge with a silent thought of thanks but pretend to answer as if its a sneaky question as intended, this allows the humbleness to manifest correctly. If the word you are given is not clear at first, as is often the case with otherworldly insights, fear not, one day it will all make sense.
3. This is the most common one for me personally.
Your query is unique and represents some small/large/medium and very specific element of the experience itself that has you slightly perplexed and utterly annoyed that you cannot quite explain it logically due to the very basic info online, the inability of Google to provide an instant answer and the fact that its utterly impossible to search for the answer for more then 20 seconds before desperation demands a new post to seek immediate assistance, where naturally you assure everybody you searched for hours online delighted in the fact that nobody can prove otherwise.
Basically a whole ton of weird things happen on meth, but mostly there are just things that happen, and seem pretty normal logically, but if the exact reasoning cannot be explained, it becomes an issue.
I mean the experience and side effects itself, it demands understanding.
Unknowns must be resolved, but fortunately only things you might reasonably assume can be answered, with the current level of human advancement. The real unknowns like the meaning of life type stuff is dismissed as to depressing to even consider, thankfully, however high doses can get you stuck in loops of such topics. Not fun.
Anyways, for me i seem obsessed with understanding the nuances of the experience, mentally and physically, so #3 might not be a main one for other recruits.
For example to clarify point 3 accurately, let me provide my own example, no need to answer it obviously... (and no this is not a clever attempt at sneaking in a really annoying one i would love for somebody to answer...):
I have always experienced two states of the bad vasoconstriction, the common one, where you get cold and numb etc, but then later on it progresses to a state where i still have the vasoC but i feel hot on top of the cold and im sweating as well.
But its obvious that I am dehydrated, but for some reason im sweating a ton, as if my body is purposely trying to screw me over by sweating away the last drops from my already dehydrated husk of a body. The idiotic pointlessness of it infuriates me every day, I just cant make sense of it.
I need to know exactly what causes this sudden change over from normal numb cold extremities to hot sweating numb cold extremities. Yes, its now hot and cold, cause i feel it being hot from my senses inside my brain, but others who touch me say my skin feels ice cold. Got permanent gooseflesh as well.
This disturbs me since i then don't know if im cold or hot and which i need to seek out to survive. When i used to take big doses I never had any of these concerns. I had the symptoms but I would be half dead and breathless but totally happy and unaware of any side effects. Is being unaware effectively a cure and thus the desired option? Scary how high you can get.
Also i find not knowing if you are cold or hot could be considered a bad sign related to your drug use and current state. Do I trust my senses as hot (which are in my drug addled and untrustworthy brain) or do I trust other peoples senses who touch me as cold, but then can you really trust another person, truly?
And if I use my own hand to touch my apparently cold arm, i cant tell if the heat i feel is from my arm or my hand, and if the cold i feel is also from my hand or my arm. It all feels like the hot and cold is in the middle between my hand and arm. I'm not sure how to assign the sensation to the correct source. This also disturbs me for some reason.
At the very least, i would just like to know if I am actually hot or cold, in terms of, which should I seek out as the one least likely to be harmful, should my actions increase it.
Im guessing, i need to cool down since stims heat you up, BUT, maybe i need to warm up in case the vasoC causes hypothermia. How do i decide what to do, or do i keep perfectly neutral temp wize, and how would you go about doing that?
Can you imagine being found dead of hypothermia in a pool of frozen sweat, with a fan on to cool your hot as fire face and torso and a blanket to warm your freezing legs. That is how it is for me, no lies.
I bet instead of sparking a revolution in repairing the fundamentally flawed human body, it becomes an ad campaign for meth hate propaganda instead, even though its presence actually helped in identifying the flaws and weaknesses to be studied and resolved in the first place! It would be a wasted death.
This counts as still one 1 example, since its related to VasoC. But different from the state above where i didnt use alcohol.
I use alcohol sometimes to help with the vasoconstriction, since eating a bottle of cayenne pepper was rather unpleasant. When i use it (bearing in mind all the nuances and risks), i seem to move to a state where it has definitely helped with the numbing cold, however i begin to get extremely hot instead, basically seem to overheat in an uncomfortable way.
I then think, the stims should be raising my body temperature and this heat is then dissipated from the skin as it should be, but its only able to do this when the VasoC is treated, which must mean that if its not, I could be overheating inside myself boiling alive while my traitor body is pretending to be cold preventing the release of this heat through my skin since its to concerned with outdated instinctual responses by preventing blood loss from a wolf attack that will never come.
And yet it keeps doing the same thing over and over again, with never a wolf or camel in sight. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and again expecting a different result, which must mean we are all part insane, and disturbingly its our core animal instincts, something that sure sounds important, thats batshit insane. Even animals can learn faster then this part of our brains. What if it spreads?
I dream of a day i can enter an important meeting without my nerves ensuring i need to concentrate on not shitting all over this VIP's office while still trying to speak sense in a professional manner. And if you need to go to the bathroom, due to the necessary delay and the shameful look on your face, they know exactly what you did, during their meeting time. You literally shat all over their valuable time. Actually that makes me feel a bit better about this. Moving on.
Its cause for concern is all im saying. Anyways, im getting slightly distracted...
But im not sure if this is the case or if VasoC has something to do with heat dissipation, or wtf is going on. I have also ensured liquids, foods, vitamins but it always happens on day 3, as if its a time based or sleep dep based reaction (impossible). Just more confusion and insanity. You can see my issue here im sure?
Ok, im done. Just lastly, I hope its easy to see how some of these questions might be difficult to find or research, even if the info was available online. The only possible source is meth trip reports, but then its just more questions and no answers.
And searches like "vasoconstriction on methamphetamine cold but also feel hot and sweating how to know if hot or cold" which is necessary due to the specificness of the issue, results in a bluelight link at #1, though its irrelevant, its obviously the mighty Google telling us to seek the answers here, with a shiny new post.
So, unless anybody wants to argue with the mighty Google itself, this matter is settled.
May I suggest again a sub forum for Meth/Amps Rant and Questions where we could frolic happily in relative safety from abuse? This would double up as an excellent source for entertaining reading. I have much content to contribute.