methadone

[slowpoke1967]

please excuse me for putting this thread here as i have been away from here for over a year and im sure theres a better place for this but i just couldnt find it and got short temperd as ussual and just thought id put it here ,,so ayway ya i been away for over a year because thats when i started on methadone and just lost track of everything else pretty much even lost some close friends i made on here ,,to bad oh well,,anyway so i am now on 100 mg a day and i am feeling great rite now though i have gone through some horid stuff at times with the leg pains and spasms so bad i have had to kinda tie my arms down to keep from hurting and scratching myself severly but anyway as i said as of late i have been great my old leg pains seem to be practically gone along with my migraines ,and just about all pains period ,,i barely even ever take a arthritis pill unless i realy need it ,,but,,but ,,i dont want to be on this anymore as it realy fucks up my trraveling and i have tried to stop but only got thrown into hell and said id never do that again ,,only to try it a few more times ,,and then it takes about a week approx,to get back to normal,,so i have read everything i can on getting off this shit ,,now i want to hear the most effective way ,,and the fastest also,,,i have read that its gonna take me at least a year or more to get off and back to semi normal WTF ,,see they never told me anything about this part ,,,anyway can a real pro or experienced person from blue,,please give me the best fastest way to get off and back to normal ,,please i onloy want the best replies cause i have read sooooooooo many its rediculous,,i thank anyone to help me out here ,,muchly appreciated,,,

 

[madog11]

I don't know about methadone but i'm sure someone will be along that does. I would reccomend however you split your post into paragraphs making it easier to read. You will get more responses that way.

 

[KAYLA2010]

I was on methadone before getting on subs and let me tell you the withdraw will be hell.

But you can minamize it by a slow taper. As in lower your dose down over a few weeks and then quit. Your will e sick for about 7 days and then will begin to feel better. After that you will have good and bad days.

Its not nessesarilu a year before you feel normal. You will feel normal some days and then some days have leg cramps, some days get sweats.. Its just your body and mind like depression anxiety will not go back to normally for up to a year.
But you wont feel that way every day.

It took me around a month from quitting methadone cold turkey to feel normal and even then i had some bad days.

Are you taking it as prescribed or off the streets? If predcribed how come you havent talked to yor doctor?

 

[slowpoke1967]

i havent brought it up with my doc cause i just started wanting off it cause of the pain in the ass it is when i travell haveing to set up pharmacies all over the country just to go stay at my cottage for a month ,,haveing to take a boat and then drive a couple hundred miles every week pretty much ,,,other than that methadone has greatly increased my value of life ,,and im also scared of getting all my pain back when i go off ,,,its a delima but in studying how to get off it almost all say a slow taper down to 20mg then that last 20 is supposed to be a bitch to get off then ya have side effects and shit from the withdrawls im basically stuck between two worlds here i want my freedon back but i dont want to loose all that its doing for me ,,i have never gone a day in many years without chronic pain and i got onto this because i was taking 100 pills a day on top of crack and whatever else i could find etc so ya thats about it fer now thanx for responding

 

[KAYLA2010]

Is it liquid or pill form?

 

[slowpoke1967]

liquid

 

[KAYLA2010]

O liquid may be harder to come off of. Just bcause you can not level out your doses as well.

Just try to take smaller doses until you ar on the smalled possible dose. Try to wean your self over the next few weeks.

 

[effie]

I am going to move this over to Other Drugs, as there are a lot of people experienced in tapering off methadone there, along with megathreads on both methadone and tapering (found in the OD directory). I would also recommend checking out The Dark Side forum if you would like some support and advice about this. Good luck!

BDD > OD

 

[effie]

(Sorry TDS people, I moved it to the wrong forum, was meant for OD!)

 

[slowpoke1967]

is it fare to say i can drop down from 100mg down to 50mg without any real side effects??just wondering.
And does anyone know the shelf life of methadone??
Like if i drank half the bottle and left the other half to save how long would it stay good??
Wondering cause id like to save as much as i can to travel back home this summer..
Thanx..

 

[Waxitup]

Thinking about going to a methadone clinic

I have insurance And I am thinking about going to a clinic to start a methadone maintenance program to get off of H. If I seek help via methadone clinic will it permanently scar my medical history or forever label me as a drug abuser? I started my addiction to norco,oxy contin, and fentanyl patches after a Terrible car accident. I was cut off of my pain meds and resorted to using heroin. Will starting methadone put a bad mark on my medical history? Please help.


-wax

 

[Miss Kirsty]

oP...i WOULDNT like TO DROP 50MG IN ONE GO...but YOU MAY BE ABLE TO!...Sorry cap lock on!....No way would i drop by 50mg dude...I am tapering as i type and im only dropping 5mg per week...I was on 115mg and now am on 85mg...Its been painless sooo far, so i could go faster i guess...

You will just have to play it by ear mate..and see how you feell...Try starting with 20 mg and see how you feel...My Doc writes my script so that i cant tell my pharmasist what dose i want...The script will say that....within a certain bracket...eg...mine say 100mg and less, as patient requires...So if i want to have say a go at 70mg and i find that after 2 days of feeling like crap, i go chemist and get a bit more next time...Like say raise me back to 90 please?...You get what i mean?

 

[Dave]

Finishing what effie started: off to OD!

 

[slowpoke1967]

thanx for the responces from all.
I have tried twice now to not take any one day a week just to try and save for my upcoming trip.
But i tell ya each time i woke up sweating and started to throw up almost as soon as i woke up .
Its a hard thing to go even a day without any.but if i can do it till my trip then i save alot of money since i have to pay when im outta province and not to mention the travel cost of gas when im outta town at camp.
Haveing to drive so far to get my doses.
One of the things im worried about is when i return my bottles there supposed to be all 6 to get all 6 back and ive been giveing them 5 and making excuses why i havent had the other .
But they seem to like me alot and over look stuff like that i have even gone without bringing them any bottles back for a whole month .
So maybe ill try that and then it wont seem to bad cause ill have to dump a whole bag in a box and they will poover look how many are there.
anyway 20mg you say eh ..
I think the next doctor visit i will try and ask for the same deal .
It sounds like a good option being able to drop how much i want and still be able to go back up if i want

I have been able to pick and choose how much i want anytime ,but i always tell her (the doc)that i dont wanna go over 100 and im sure she will let me choose what dose i want ,they treet me very well at the clinic.
thanx for the idea i appreciate it,its a good idea.
thanx all for trying to help ,i dont know why i stopped coming in the blue zone for so long .
I guess i was just to wrapped up in my owne shit ,,i lost a very good friend by stopping coming in here,its to bad .
he helped me alot ,most people in here helped me and were very nice and possative every time i wrote or helped others .
It gave me something to do every day since i live alone and have so many phobias and such .
I loveds helping others on here when i could.
Now im the one needing a bit of insite ..
Again thanx so much for helping me out peeps ,muchly appreciated..

Peace and have a great week and weekend

 

[Miss Kirsty]

OP just make sure that you get the script written the correct way...Chemists will not deviate at all..not one bit...They go by the book and only by the book....Soo you want your Dr to write that you are allowed to dose within the brackets.....You have to work out with the Dr what that bracket will be...Mine are usually 30 mg brackets as i go Dr every three months...And usually i have been down the 30mg by time the appointment comes up..(Only done this once!)

Good luck and my opinion is "Dont go too high in your dosing" It will make it that much harder when you try and get off it..I went up to 115mg and 60mg was holding me, so now ive got a fucken extra 60mg to get down!!!Plus ive fucked my tolerance up big time!..So id stabalise at the first comfortable dose...

 

[slowpoke1967]

thanx alot for the info .
As i said i told my doc theres no way i want to go any higher than 100,,even though she sugested i try it when i had a couple bad boughts for awhile ,,i still said no,,even though inside i realy wanted to try a higher dose to see if it would help me ,,but 100 seems to be a pretty stable dose for me .
And especially now within the last few weeks i have felt so much better,though a couple times i woke up and began throwing up for no reason at all,,cept that maybe i ate some bad meat ,,so i realy dont think the dose contributed to me being sick for the two days,,i have also been missing a day here and there to try and save up ,,its hard though going that day without,,i feel pretty shitty so i try and occupy my mind with movies or messageing good friends..
then when i get that dose in me the next day withn hours im feeling better again,
And thankfully i have other meds to help me out when im down,,i can take some meds and iether fall asleep or just calm my ass down from the constant thinking that i need my dose,
I also thought that at 80mg i was stable ,so i probably coulda stayed at that dose but i must say the extra 20 mg helped me feel alot better,,.
Now i gotta wait over a month to see my doc since shes on hollidays ,,when she gets back i want to try that thing where i can pick which dose i want for that week and such like another had posted.
i thank all for all the help im getting on here again .
i dont know why i ever stopped coming in here its so helpfull.
peace to all and have a great weekend~~~alan~~~:D

 

[lazylazyjoe]

It's gonna be a while before you can get off. 100mg is very high.
A 5mg drop a week, will most likely go unnoticed until you reach around 30-40. Then take about 2 weeks for each 5mg drop. At any point if it's too much, just have them keep you at your dose for an extra week. Once you reach 5, that's usually as low as a clinic will go, but still too high to stop at, so you might have to self-taper at that point. A week or two of a weak opioid (I used tramadol) should make the kick a little smoother.

The part that's gonna be hard is you're working in a clinic setting and things dont always go how you want. (I had such trouble setting a taper, I tried keeping it in my mouth and spiting it out in a bottle to lower my dose. )

They really are "liquid handcuffs".

 

[guitarguerilla]

O liquid may be harder to come off of. Just bcause you can not level out your doses as well.

Just try to take smaller doses until you ar on the smalled possible dose. Try to wean your self over the next few weeks.

Why can't you level off? I did, I was on liquid for three years. I guess everyone is different? The quickest way to quit would be cold turkey(but I wouldn't recommend that), if I were you id start to taper slowly. I was up to 200mg a day when I started tapering. I went down one a day untill I got to around 30, and I really didn't even notice it. I would even suggest doing a blind taper, that way your not obsessing about your dose. Its not not easy to quit, but if you go slow the wd aren't nearly as bad as cold turkey. Good luck, and if you have any questions feel free to pm me.

 

[slowpoke1967]

okay i want to know whats a blind taper ,,to me that sounds like i tell my doc i wanna get off the stuff and let her decide how low i should go at what speed i should go but not to fill me in on whats going on.
Which to me sounds like a good idea ,because even i know that part of the wds come from kowing exactly how much yer getting and dropping and so on ,,cause partialy it mental,though i know its mostly physical,,so at one point my body is gonna tell me im starting to realy kick cause ill feel like shit and start puking and shit ,,,
The other question i had was what did you meen by droping one a day till you got to 30??/io dont understand that one,,but reading up on withdrawing from methadone ,,almost every read sais pretty much the same thing i can drop down a little at a time till i get to around 20mg then i herd its hell from there,,and i cant just roll in and ask for tramadol,,is there other scripts that say my shrink will be able to give me ,,shell pretty much give me what i want ..
Im already on 6mg of clonazepams187.5mg of venlafaxine for depression200 mg of trazadone to help sleep,,i used to get 60 mg temazepams but they stopped working ,,50mg of methotrimeprazine also to help sleep400 mg of seroquels also for sleep and then 50mg twice a day for my heart and then20mg of periat or raseprazole sodium twice a day for heart burn,and ulcers etc associated with my cholitis k thats about it besides takeing the odd couple tylenal arthiritis,,,so seeing as i been withholding a dose here and there to try and save bottles for my trip back home cause it costs so damn much for the gas and plus i have to pay like 60 bux for the 8 bottles i get when i go get them from thunder bay.
I'm gonna try my best to get 2 week carries this time..
or since i will have some i will ask for 2 weeks from manitoba before i leave and then another week when i get to thunderbay ,when i get there before heading out to nipigon and north to camp ,,so that plus the bottles ill have saved (already have 5) i should be able to make it without a trip in to town befoe heading out to camp ..
then when i get back you tell me what i should tell my doc ?? just tell her to drop me 5 mg per week or two weeks or what till i get to the 30 you mentioned then where do i go from there ,,i need all the help i can get when i get back from my trip so i can get off the stuff at least by ext summer so i can move outta this town and move back to winnipeg or my home town of thunderbay ....thanx all that have helped me so far i realy appreciate it big big thanx to all

 

[lptrax]

Why not switch to a shorter acting better opiate for a while like Om or Oc / diacytl and taper on that, then when you get low enough taper on subs for only like 4-7 days and quit