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methadone safety

haden

haden

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I know I tend to post too much threads about methadone, and I apologize if it bothers anyone. However, I am curious as to wether or not this is dangerous:

To take 65 milligrams of methadone, than abstain from use for 7 days, and then take another 65mg.

I actually do this often, but sometimes I feel like I might be verging on an overdose level. I don't know if this is simply an anxiety issue, or valid. I will lay down at night at around midnight-3am (I usually dose at around 6pm) and sink into a deep nod. I often notice that my breathing is very shallow, or that I must focus to continue taking deep breaths. I then will wake in the morning without recollection of how or when I fell asleep, and wonder if I came close to experiencing sever respiratory depression in my sleep.

The funny thing is that I can only feel satisfied at 65mg or more, while any less does not give me desired euphoria. I am just curious if using once every seven days at this amount will make it so one day, I don't wake up.

Any insights or opinions, as well as someone's similar experience would be greatly appreciated...
 
haden said:
I know I tend to post too much threads about methadone, and I apologize if it bothers anyone. However, I am curious as to wether or not this is dangerous:

To take 65 milligrams of methadone, than abstain from use for 7 days, and then take another 65mg.

I actually do this often, but sometimes I feel like I might be verging on an overdose level. I don't know if this is simply an anxiety issue, or valid. I will lay down at night at around midnight-3am (I usually dose at around 6pm) and sink into a deep nod. I often notice that my breathing is very shallow, or that I must focus to continue taking deep breaths. I then will wake in the morning without recollection of how or when I fell asleep, and wonder if I came close to experiencing sever respiratory depression in my sleep.

The funny thing is that I can only feel satisfied at 65mg or more, while any less does not give me desired euphoria. I am just curious if using once every seven days at this amount will make it so one day, I don't wake up.

Any insights or opinions, as well as someone's similar experience would be greatly appreciated...
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And do you think this symptom is just fine? I have done some crazy shit with opies but when my breathing gets like THAT, I know I am on the edge. Had a friend playing with 'done, one time. She started having breathing problems. She did a little more and guess what? She's not around anymore.

Might want to listen to your body, my friend.

Best
 
Yeah I know, but if I have not died from it for months of using with this method, is there a chance that I would just randomly o.d. one day? Or is my survival proof that my method is safe?

I am really truly sorry about your friend.
 
haden said:
Yeah I know, but if I have not died from it for months of using with this method, is there a chance that I would just randomly o.d. one day? Or is my survival proof that my method is safe?

I am really truly sorry about your friend.
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Hard to say. The breathing issue has always bothered me the most. Mainly, because I know thats how opiates will take us away.

One would think that your tolerance would have increased a little whereas you don't develop breathing issues, after this long. But apparently that's not the case.

But I just couldn't guarantee that you wouldn't have a problem since you never have before. I personally think your pushing too close to the edge. Sorry, but my opinion.

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How big are you?


In reality 65mg methadone dose if you have tolerance to opiates would not kill you.
I ve seen people take around 100mg and be fine. No nod but your breathing will definitely be suppressed since done is a potent synthetic u-opioid agonist.

Straight from wikipedia :
A majority of patients require 80–120 mg/d of methadone, or more, to achieve these effects and require treatment for an indefinite period of time, since methadone maintenance is a corrective but not a curative treatment for opiate addiction.[33] Lower doses are sometimes not as effective, or do not provide an equivalent blockade effect as higher dosages can. Some patients will be prescribed as much as 500 mg of methadone a day; though a dose as low as 10 mg can prove fatal in an opiate naive individual.
 
And I have had shallow breathing a bunch. But the Methadone has always been th e worst with my heart playing all kind of tricks. And it last so, so long.
 
I'm starting to feel this way and I want to stop this shit. Theres been times where I will sit on my couch or in class and I have to cocentrate not to nod and thats when I take dexedrine too. It WAS very shallow for awhile until I got adjusted I dunno if I fucked up or not...Been on for 4 months I don't abuse it....105mgs a day.....want to drop to 80 and then think things out
 
yeah I know that no one can really know what would be fatal or not for some one other than themselves, and I appreciate the responses.

I know methadone has a very fine line between a good high and death for someone not on MMT using recreationally. Interestingly, MMT patients I know can double their doses and barely feel a difference... I try to not use more than once a week because I have been heavily addicted to opiates in the past and like to be able to go several days without using and not feel like a giant scab.

But I have grown accustomed to the long high of done, and I just blow through oxy, morph, opana, etc.. and can't afford anything but methadone. It feels like anything but methadone (other than h) lasts no longer than and hour and then I am craving more (I am much more mentally addicted than physically at this point).
 
haden said:
When one is feeling that sort of respiratory depression what is the best action to take?
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By the grace of God, I have always, eventually came down. I mean, on a true life and death situation, Narcan is given to reverse.

Haven't had to go that route, yet. But I believe a strong antagonist is the only thing that will reverse opiate OD. But I'm no expert.

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haden said:
What do you mean by heart playing tricks?
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A VERY slow/light flutter. Does that make since? Not palpations, something I have only experienced on high dose opies. Quite a scary feeling, actually. But not painful, either. Don't know how else to explain it.
 
And to add. The absolute worst heart/lung problems that I have ever had was by combining Methadone and Valium.
I definitely would not recommend that combination!
 
Pchild said:
And to add. The absolute worst heart/lung problems that I have ever had was by combining Methadone and Valium.
I definitely would not recommend that combination!
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EXPLAIN....I switched back and I thought it did something funny with my methadone..........I really just want whatever I ask for because I know my body but I dont want red flagged. its lame...anyway....explain...:|:|:|:|
 
BananasAndOranges said:
EXPLAIN....I switched back and I thought it did something funny with my methadone..........I really just want whatever I ask for because I know my body but I dont want red flagged. its lame...anyway....explain...:|:|:|:|
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I don't understand. What should I explain?
 
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